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Public Transport

I do as a matter of fact, because it is in the bus companies' interests to do so. There is a need to reverse the decline in bus patronage, and they ought to realise that it is in their own interests to do so. It is also in the interests of all those who believe in tackling climate change, including the Government, who must lead the process and explain how it can be achieved. Simply standing back and saying, ““We'll let the market sort it out,”” does not work; we need more Government intervention and leadership. I understand that ITSO-based smartcards are being used much more in Scotland and Wales. I do not know how they have managed it—perhaps the same way that railway lines have been re-opened in Scotland and Wales, but not in England. Transport needs south of the border seem to be different from those north and west of the border. I hope that the Minister will be able to say something very much along the lines of integrated ticketing, and something about how she intends to enable a person who turns up at Lewes railway station, for example, to get a train to Brighton and then a bus from Brighton to wherever they are going.