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Proceeding contribution from James Purnell (Labour) in the House of Commons on Wednesday, 10 December 2008. It occurred during Ministerial statement on Welfare Reform.


Welfare Reform

I did not hold a press briefing, and I hope that the hon. Lady will withdraw that comment. The hon. Lady has fundamentally misunderstood what this is all about. It is about transforming people's lives. It is about ensuring that we provide people with help and support so that they can get back into work and help their children to have a better standard of living and high aspirations for themselves. That is exactly the right thing to be doing. On lone parents and the Gregg review, we are not saying that we are going to bring in those changes before the lone parent changes that are currently being introduced. This is about the next stage of welfare reform. It is right that lone parents should have to look for work when their child reaches the lower age of seven years, but Paul Gregg was not saying that parents of younger children should be made to work, or to look for work, but that they should prepare for work. We have fantastic help for people who need to get out of debt or to address serious issues such as mental health or drug problems. We also have help in relation to child care, confidence issues and training. It is right that people should go in and develop an action plan so that they can prepare for work, but then also, at the right time, be expected to take it up. It is all about ensuring that we end child poverty in this country—something that the Liberal Democrats have said is an ““unnecessary distraction””. They are neither prepared to put in the support for people nor to address their high expectations to ensure that they get back into work to help themselves out of poverty. This is the right approach that builds on the best approaches around the world, which involve full-time activity among other things. The hon. Lady is wrong to say that international evidence shows that that does not work. It does not work if that activity is of low quality, has no job search and does not help people to develop skills. It does work, however, if it involves full-time activity that teaches people skills, such as turning up on time and being presentable, and it ensures that people are looking for work. That approach is followed in countries such as the Netherlands and Denmark, and we will follow that approach because it is right for people. The hon. Lady says that we should not deal with people who are repeatedly failing to live up to their obligations. I completely disagree. If people are taking money and playing the system without trying to get back into work, that is an abuse of the system. It is wrong for people to do that, and requiring those who do it to undertake full-time activity in return for benefits is the right approach because it is not fair on everyone else if they abuse the system in that way. Finally, the hon. Lady asked what we will do to make work pay. We have transformed the situation; a lone parent working for a full week is more than £100 better off than in 1999, and that is even more than they would have had before 1997 thanks to the introduction of the minimum wage, which her party opposed. On top of that, we pay a £40 premium per week for people when they go into work. We are also piloting a £25 better-off guarantee. That is the right approach: more support and higher expectations. I am sorry that she does not support it.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
485 c544-5 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Subjects
Disability Children Benefits rules Employment Drugs Private sector Employment schemes Incapacity benefit Maintenance Misuse Lone parents Social security benefits Social security Voluntary organisations Registration of births, deaths, marriages and civil partnerships Personalised Conditionality and Support Review Access to work programme Employment and support allowance Welfare to Work Review
Link
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