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Proceeding contribution from Lord Redwood (Conservative) in the House of Commons on Wednesday, 6 May 2009. It occurred during Debate on bill on Finance Bill.


Finance Bill

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman does. He is a better politician than he is giving us to believe with that rather childish intervention. The Government's idea was crude and simple—"Let's put this down for a future year. We don't actually think it's going to raise very much revenue." Perhaps they did not believe it would raise any at all. They saw it as a win-win situation for Labour. If the Conservatives voted it down, Labour would spend the next year going around the country saying, "The only thing the Tories care about is rich people and their marginal tax rate." If the Tories voted for it, Labour would go around the country saying to people who might otherwise vote Tory, "Look, the Tories are useless. They don't even stand up for your kind of proposals, and they aren't really the party of enterprise after all." We do not intend to play that game, which has turned out to be a lose-lose for Labour. It has pitted an important part of the business community against the Labour Government, because the business community is not impressed by their reneging on the clear promise that I remember them making at the last general election that they would make no changes to the overall rates of income tax at any level. The change has also pitted Labour MP against Labour MP. We know that the Blairite faction is extremely unhappy with it. The Blairites thought that the fact that the previous Prime Minister had accepted the Conservative settlement on tax prior to 1997 was a very important part of winning over floating voters in middle Britain whom Labour needed to win over to form a Government again. They believe that it is disruptive and a clear tearing-up of that element of the new Labour settlement that the Government have now decided to go from 40p in the pound to 50p. Indeed, at the margin it is rather higher than that if we take into account the changes to allowances, pensions, national insurance and so forth. Far from being a trap for the Conservatives, it has been another factor in the growing civil war between Blairites and the supporters of the Prime Minister. There will be those on the left for whom the change does not go far enough. They think that this crisis is a good opportunity to increase the rate to 60p, 70p or 80p—the rates they were used to in previous periods of government. However, there are others on the Labour Benches who understand that in a globalised and footloose world economy—whether we like it or not, we have to live with it—it is all too easy for people with money, talent, capital or high incomes to say, "I won't base my activity here any more, I'll base it somewhere else—I'll go to Dublin, the Bahamas or Asia," because the Governments in those jurisdictions really want talented people and new businesses. There are jurisdictions that wish to give a home to businesses that might otherwise have been located in London or Britain. That is the danger that we now face. In other respects, the Government claim to believe that putting a tax up means having less of something. For example, they are busily increasing the tax on gas-guzzling cars because they want fewer of them. They are also increasing the tax on drink, because they want people to drink less. Probably only the ministerial drinks cupboard will be well stocked at the new duty rates, because public spending is still in free flow, whereas other people are expected to reign back, which we are told is good for their health. The Government believe that increasing duty on tobacco means that people will smoke less and that fewer cigarettes will be sold.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
492 c278-9 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Subjects
Children Alcoholic drinks Business Corporation tax Credit Bingo Borrowing Finance Income tax Excise duties Fuels Gaming Government assistance Economic growth Forecasts Personal savings Poverty Pensions Public expenditure Scotland Tax allowances Tax avoidance Taxation VAT Trusts Tax rates and bands Tax evasion North Sea oil Trade competitiveness Marginal tax rates
Legislation
Finance Bill 2008-09
Link
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