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Child Poverty Bill

My Lords, I am not sure where to begin. I thank all noble Lords for their speeches in what has been a very moving debate. I also thank the Minister for his valiant responses. I know that he is not a dodger, because I have worked with him before on this issue and he has shown great interest and met many grandparents. This Bill is about child poverty. Two things seem to be going on. One is about what local authorities know, or should know, about how many people are involved in this. I agree with the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, that they must have some information, and many will have a lot of information. They should know what the problems are if they are to address this pocket of child poverty. I know that the organisations that support family and friends carers are becoming more and more organised and determined to get something done. I should be surprised if some of them do not run out of this debate and try to do some work on the figures—maybe even before our good people behind us can get to grips with it. The noble Lord, Lord Freud, was not on the list of movers, because I thought that he would be the noble Baroness, Lady Morris.