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Proceeding contribution from Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative) in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 28 March 2012. It occurred during Debate on bill on Scotland Bill.


Scotland Bill

It is very straightforward. We are talking about devolution here, not about establishing a federal system. As someone said, although I cannot remember who, power devolved is power retained. The ability to create a completely new tax—a window tax, or whatever—has to reside with the other place down the Corridor. Within our constitution, in order to create a new tax, you have to have a finance Bill. It used to have to be on the Floor of the House of Commons when it came to Committee, and there is a set of procedures that needs to be followed. It is completely different from devolving the power to set a rate of tax, which this Bill purports to do and is the commitment made in the manifesto. My constitutional problem is that that ability of the House of Commons to discuss, through a long-standing procedure, the imposition of taxation is being undermined because all that it requires now is an Order in Council, which by convention cannot be voted on in this House and cannot be amended. That is no basis upon which to create new taxes on the people. It is the nature of the procedure that is the constitutional outrage as far as I am concerned, not the nature of giving the Scottish Parliament the ability to raise a particular tax.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
736 c1479 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Criminal proceedings Devolved matters Appeals Costs Crown lands and estates Devolution Airguns Certification Block grant Fees and charges Licensing Firearms EU law Income tax Electoral Commission EU accession Legislative competence Insolvency Health professions Legislation Economic policy Motor vehicles Referendums Public finance Scotland Regulation Tax allowances Scottish Parliament Taxation Speed limits Tax rates and bands Supreme Court Advocate General for Scotland High Court Scottish Government Legislative consent motions
Legislation
Scotland Bill 2010-12
Link
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