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Queen's speech debate on Monday, 23 May 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Charles Clarke. The answering member was David Davis.

Home Affairs and Communities

Queen's speech debate (fourth day) on home affairs and communities.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
434 c420-525 
Session
2005-06
Department
Home Office
Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
Procedure
Addresses to the Crown
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 434 c462-5 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to make my maiden speech today. I congr...
Lord Austin of Dudley | 434 c481-4 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to make my maiden speech. It is a priv...
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Paul Rowen | 434 c495-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the privilege of being able to give my maiden speech on the Gracious Speech. I c...
Anne Main | 434 c504-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow such an impassioned speaker, although as this is my maiden speech, it mig...
Andrew Gwynne | 434 c453-6 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to be called to give my maiden speech in today’s debate. I am only the second Me...
Adam Afriyie | 434 c461-2 (Link to this contribution) As an ardent campaigner for decision making to remain in this House, I am delighted to address the H...
Lord Benyon | 434 c456-8 (Link to this contribution) I start by paying tribute to the eloquence and enthusiasm with which the hon. Member for Denton and ...
Daniel Kawczynski | 434 c475-6 (Link to this contribution) We in Shrewsbury have a bit of a record already. We have a town cryer who is 7 ft 2 in tall, and at ...
Baroness Kramer | 434 c471-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity to make my maiden speech and trial the fashion ...
Lord Khan of Tooting | 434 c468-71 (Link to this contribution) I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to make my maiden speech this evening, so saving ...
Ed Miliband | 434 c487-9 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful for the chance to address the House for the first time. It is a pleasure to follo...
Madeleine Moon | 434 c492-5 (Link to this contribution) It is with great pride that I rise to make my maiden speech, following the hon. Member for Reading, ...
Rob Wilson | 434 c490-2 (Link to this contribution) As I speak for the first time in the House, I am not only humbled but aware of the great burden of t...
Baroness Brown of Silvertown | 434 c477-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to make my first contribution in the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 434 c514-5 (Link to this contribution) As possibly the last speaker this evening to make a maiden speech, I pay tribute to all hon. Members...
David Jones | 434 c509-12 (Link to this contribution) I compliment the hon. Member for Hartlepool (Mr. Wright) on his witty and thought-provoking contribu...
Stewart Hosie | 434 c499-501 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to follow the hon. Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Doran), and particularly the ref...
Speaker | 434 c445 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the House that Mr. Speaker has placed a 10-minute limit on Back-Bench speeches, wh...
Charles Clarke | 434 c448 (Link to this contribution) The commitment given in the debate to provide regular reports to the House on control orders—I recol...
Mark Oaten | 434 c448-51 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary is aware that we believe that if somebody is put under a control order, we should...
Gerald Kaufman | 434 c445-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank my constituents for sending me back to the House for the tenth time. My obligation to them i...
Mark Oaten | 434 c447-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to take part in this debate, which got off to a slightly grumpy start with the Home...
Andrew Turner | 434 c452 (Link to this contribution) I have been thinking of this intervention for some time in view of what the hon. Gentleman has been ...
Mark Oaten | 434 c452-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that the vast majority of youngsters do not deserve the ““hoo...
Khalid Mahmood | 434 c451 (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Gentleman support any future antisocial behaviour legislation that would undermine so...
Mark Oaten | 434 c451-2 (Link to this contribution) Any effective antisocial behaviour measures would get our support, but we will not support the stick...
David Davis | 434 c458 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help the right hon. Gentleman. If it is just one person—as it appears to be—who is to ...
Michael Meacher | 434 c458-9 (Link to this contribution) I accept that, and shall come on to that subject. The generality of the Queen’s Speech has much in ...
Diane Abbott | 434 c459 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that one reason why so many of our traditional white working-class v...
Michael Meacher | 434 c459-61 (Link to this contribution) That is an important point. I am sure my hon. Friend would agree that the Government—and the Chancel...
Edward Leigh | 434 c465-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a great privilege and pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Portsmouth, North (Sarah McCarthy...
Michael Meacher | 434 c458 (Link to this contribution) I start with a real tribute to the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Benyon) and to my hon. Friend the Me...
Edward Leigh | 434 c466-8 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. If a serious discussion took place with the members of the focus groups, and if they were l...
David Miliband | 434 c521 (Link to this contribution) There is certainly a place for my hon. Friend in my speech-writing team. Having survived decapitati...
David Miliband | 434 c521-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says he is terrified. His card has been marked by the hon. Member for Woodspring;...
Caroline Spelman | 434 c519 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, but the point that I am making is the important one made...
David Miliband | 434 c519-21 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to wind up today’s debate and I thank the hon. Member for Meriden (Mrs. Spelman)...
Chris Bryant | 434 c521 (Link to this contribution) : He has been trying for years.
Caroline Spelman | 434 c519 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. Labour Members should not mock the role of the specials...
Simon Hughes | 434 c524 (Link to this contribution) : The Minister said that he supported the youth service. Will he also pick up the idea, which was pu...
David Miliband | 434 c524-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. I do not know whether he is raising a London-specific i...
Bob Russell | 434 c522 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman explain why, in eight years of Labour government, fewer than 3,000 cou...
David Miliband | 434 c522 (Link to this contribution) I would be happy to go into the situation in detail with the hon. Gentleman, but my understanding of...
Caroline Spelman | 434 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) I made it clear that we support the Thames Gateway project because 80 per cent. of it is on brownfie...
David Miliband | 434 c523 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to these debates because I have comments from the hon. Lady who said that the Thames ...
Baroness Teather | 434 c523 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can drag the right hon. Gentleman away from the spat with the Conservative Front-Bench spo...
David Miliband | 434 c523-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for raising that and congratulate her on getting into the debate even...
Lord McCabe | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Member for North Shropshire (Mr. Paterson) is so in touch. Is it remotely po...
Charles Clarke | 434 c430-1 (Link to this contribution) What I notice about the passport service—[Hon. Members: ““Answer.””] I will answer the question. Sin...
Owen Paterson | 434 c430 (Link to this contribution) We have animals that are locked up at night and kept in with barbed wire during the day. Does the Ho...
Charles Clarke | 434 c429-30 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might say that, but he will be glad to know that 80 per cent. of the country thin...
Charles Clarke | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) I can. I could give a series of examples of police projects in that category. There are plenty of th...
Keith Simpson | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) I know that the Home Secretary likes a bit of party political banter. The questions that my right ho...
Charles Clarke | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. There is no possibility that the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howd...
Charles Clarke | 434 c429 (Link to this contribution) I recall that meeting, and it was a valuable one. We have thought about the situation carefully, and...
Keith Vaz | 434 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary will recall that, before the election, he met a delegation of Members who were co...
Charles Clarke | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, and that is one reason why, at an organisational level, we have brought tog...
Charles Clarke | 434 c427-8 (Link to this contribution) No, I want to make progress now. The second tranche of legislation to which I want to refer is that...
Paul Beresford | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Evan Harris | 434 c438 (Link to this contribution) : It is not racist to talk about immigration and asylum, but the right hon. Gentleman will accept th...
David Davis | 434 c438 (Link to this contribution) I think it was the hon. and learned Member for Medway (Mr. Marshall-Andrews) who, when he met a raci...
David Davis | 434 c437-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall bring the hon. Gentleman something for which there is a shorter wait. More than a year ago,...
David Davis | 434 c436-7 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I do. One reason why the decision to reclassify was ill founded was that the Government did not...
David Davis | 434 c435-6 (Link to this contribution) Unlike the Home Secretary, I am not in that business, but I will say this: the Government may have t...
Lord McCabe | 434 c435 (Link to this contribution) It may have escaped the right hon. Gentleman’s attention that some of the reductions that he is talk...
David Davis | 434 c434-5 (Link to this contribution) I did not see the intervention by the Derbyshire chief constable, but I did see that by the chief co...
Tom Levitt | 434 c434 (Link to this contribution) I fear that the right hon. Gentleman is going down the same route that his party went down in its ne...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 434 c432 (Link to this contribution) I am enormously grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way on a point of such importance. I hop...
Charles Clarke | 434 c432 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that my hon. Friend and others have such concerns. When the Bill is published, I should...
David Davis | 434 c432-3 (Link to this contribution) Before I deal with the Queen’s Speech, let me say a few words about synthetic outrage. During the c...
Andrew Love | 434 c433 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman talked about honesty. Can he be honest with the House about whether the Opp...
Charles Clarke | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right and has summed up the position well. I appeal to the Conservatives to show t...
Kali Mountford | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) Is it not pointless to go through the five tests presented by the Conservative party? It became clea...
Charles Clarke | 434 c431-2 (Link to this contribution) That will be published when the Bill is published. [Interruption.] I am sorry, but that is entirely ...
Mark Oaten | 434 c431 (Link to this contribution) In the letter that he sent just a couple of hours ago to the shadow Home Secretary, the right hon. M...
Mark Oaten | 434 c444 (Link to this contribution) : The shadow Home Secretary has made an excellent case in demonstrating that his five questions have...
David Davis | 434 c444-5 (Link to this contribution) I repeat what I said: those questions must be answered before we can approve the Bill. On an issue o...
David Davis | 434 c442 (Link to this contribution) I am having a recognition problem with somebody’s identity. I reiterate the point. If the proposed ...
Lord McCabe | 434 c441 (Link to this contribution) : Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
David Davis | 434 c441 (Link to this contribution) When I responded earlier about the possibility of some compromise, I talked about putting into law t...
David Davis | 434 c443-4 (Link to this contribution) As I said about the Home Secretary’s comments on the immigration service working well, if that was s...
David Miliband | 434 c443 (Link to this contribution) I was pointing out from a sedentary position that on the passports saga, the plan was commissioned b...
David Davis | 434 c443 (Link to this contribution) The system was run by the Home Office, so it makes no difference who commissioned it. I shall give w...
David Davis | 434 c440 (Link to this contribution) I am entirely happy to be involved in any discussions with the various communities of our country, b...
Chris Bryant | 434 c440-1 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is being generous in taking interventions. May I suggest that part of Brita...
David Davis | 434 c441 (Link to this contribution) Were we talking a few centuries ago, I would agree with the hon. Gentleman, but such an environment ...
David Winnick | 434 c439 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate what the right hon. Gentleman is saying; in no circumstances should religion be exempt ...
David Davis | 434 c438-9 (Link to this contribution) No, it is not. On ““Woman’s Hour””, the Prime Minister said:"““There are several hundred of them in...
Diane Abbott | 434 c440 (Link to this contribution) To return to the Prevention of Terrorism Act, the whole House supports effective legislation to prev...
David Davis | 434 c439-40 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Gentleman says but I disagree with him, because, in addition to the reasons I h...
Kali Mountford | 434 c440 (Link to this contribution) : Given what the right hon. Gentleman has just said, in a very considered tone, will he join my righ...
David Davis | 434 c440 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right. When the legislation was introduced, I argued that it would act as a recruit...
John Bercow | 434 c486-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend speaks from the Front Bench with a degree of intensity and feeling. There is much to...
John Bercow | 434 c484-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a great privilege to follow the hon. Member for Dudley, North (Mr. Austin), who, in his maiden...
Peter Robinson | 434 c479-81 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for West Ham (Lyn Brown) on an excellent speech in which she gave eve...
Ann Cryer | 434 c473-4 (Link to this contribution) It has been a pleasure to sit in the Chamber this afternoon and listen to the speeches of recently e...
Speaker | 434 c516 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have given the hon. Lady a little leeway, but she has been using the second person when she...
Caroline Spelman | 434 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) By my calculation, we have had 15 maiden speeches this evening, most of which I have had the privile...
Jon Trickett | 434 c512-4 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the excellent speech by the hon. Member for Clwyd, West (Mr. Jones), who was a pass...
Siobhain McDonagh | 434 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) May I say how popular the police community support officers are in my constituency? Indeed, members ...
Caroline Spelman | 434 c516-8 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was just about to say that the tone of new hon. Members’ speeches w...
Iain Wright | 434 c509 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. There is a skateboard park in the centre of town, next to the f...
Simon Hughes | 434 c508-9 (Link to this contribution) This is a non-confrontational, supportive question. When I was up in Hartlepool, for obvious reasons...
Iain Wright | 434 c506-8 (Link to this contribution) It is an honour and privilege to follow the impassioned and excellent maiden speech made by the hon....
Frank Doran | 434 c497-9 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Rochdale (Paul Rowen) and all the other new Members who have made...
Lord McCabe | 434 c502-3 (Link to this contribution) I warmly congratulate the hon. Member for Dundee, East (Stewart Hosie) on his speech. He clearly d...
Lord McCabe | 434 c503-4 (Link to this contribution) I would not dream of doing that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I apologise. The Liberal Democrats said duri...
Speaker | 434 c503 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman has been here long enough now to realise that when he says ““you”” he is r...
Charles Clarke | 434 c420 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr. Speaker. I am delighted, in the Chamber or outside, to debate with Opposition Mem...
Derek Conway | 434 c420 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary give way?
Crispin Blunt | 434 c420 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. When you were re-elected recently, you gave an injunction to the H...
Speaker | 434 c420 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is in order. Had it been otherwise, I would have ruled him out of order.
Charles Clarke | 434 c420 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to open the debate on this part of the Gracious Speech. The Speech and this Session...
Charles Clarke | 434 c420-1 (Link to this contribution) No, not at the moment. I hope the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden will use the occasio...
Charles Clarke | 434 c421 (Link to this contribution) There are real issues and genuine concerns across the country on the matters that we are discussing,...
David Davis | 434 c421 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman used the word ““dishonourable””. Can he give me an example of one dishonour...
Gerald Kaufman | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) If my right hon. Friend’s grandfather had been an illegal immigrant, and if my right hon. Friend’s f...
Charles Clarke | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend, with his usual accuracy, puts his finger on the issue. As the Conservative par...
Julian Brazier | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary has said that it was wholly false for my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemp...
Charles Clarke | 434 c421 (Link to this contribution) Let me give one or two examples. The first example is posters in every community in the country, whi...
David Davis | 434 c421 (Link to this contribution) Can the Home Secretary answer the question that he could not answer on ““Newsnight”” about four week...
Charles Clarke | 434 c421 (Link to this contribution) First, the figure is not right. Secondly, that is not what the letter said—which was, in terms, that...
Lord McCabe | 434 c421-2 (Link to this contribution) Can there be anything more dishonourable than going around calling for respect and calling the Prime...
David Heath | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) Returning to the issue of knives and replica firearms, the Home Secretary will be aware that there i...
Charles Clarke | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) I made a commitment to consider sentencing in response to a question from the Liberal Democrat spoke...
Nigel Evans | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) In February, two of my constituents who worked at the Black Bull pub in Fulwood were attacked by thr...
Charles Clarke | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is entirely right. She has put her finger on the key question, which is the relations...
Sally Keeble | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) Will the legislation include powers to deal with binge drinking; and will it then be possible for lo...
Charles Clarke | 434 c425-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving prior notice that he intended to raise this particula...
Lord McLoughlin | 434 c425 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary consider the case of Tania Moore, who was murdered in my constituency by som...
Charles Clarke | 434 c425 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend and his Select Committee are entirely correct and I can give him that assurance...
John Denham | 434 c425 (Link to this contribution) In drawing up the new legislation, will my right hon. Friend look very carefully at the recommendati...
Charles Clarke | 434 c424-5 (Link to this contribution) That is a serious question, and I want to respond to it seriously. I have discussed the blasphemy la...
Evan Harris | 434 c424 (Link to this contribution) If the Home Secretary is keen to ensure no limit on free speech in respect of criticising or ridicul...
Charles Clarke | 434 c424 (Link to this contribution) The question concerns incitement to hatred, not the expression of opinion. That development in our l...
Andrew Turner | 434 c423 (Link to this contribution) There was a fourth issue that people were very concerned about and which the right hon. Gentleman ha...
Charles Clarke | 434 c423 (Link to this contribution) Well, surprisingly perhaps, I agree with every word that my hon. Friend has just said. My hon. Frien...
Dominic Grieve | 434 c424 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary explain why sects of devil worshippers should be put on a footing where they...
Charles Clarke | 434 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) On consideration, the hon. Gentleman might want to withdraw the word, ““gerrymandering””, which did ...
Mark Oaten | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary is right to complain about some of the language used on asylum and immigration, b...
Charles Clarke | 434 c422-3 (Link to this contribution) I totally reject that charge. We had this debate during the election campaign. I do agree, as I was ...
Diane Abbott | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) : My right hon. Friend will be aware that the majority of so-called Yardie shootings in London are p...
Charles Clarke | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) We will conclude the consultation very soon, and the Bill that we will publish—the violent crime red...
Tom Levitt | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that many of the problems that he has raised in this part of his spe...
Charles Clarke | 434 c427 (Link to this contribution) I am very sympathetic to that point; indeed, we have discussed it at great length—when I was the Min...
Charles Clarke | 434 c426 (Link to this contribution) It is. We are working with other Governments throughout the world on ways to restrict some of the me...
Richard Ottaway | 434 c426-7 (Link to this contribution) At the end of the last Parliament, the Home Secretary said that he was consulting on whether those w...
Charles Clarke | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) I agree. My hon. Friend makes a fair charge.
Tobias Ellwood | 434 c519 (Link to this contribution) Rather than bestowing more power on police community support officers or even trying to get more of ...
Diane Abbott | 434 c423 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will agree that there is nothing wrong in debating immigration and asylum in th...
Simon Hughes | 434 c436 (Link to this contribution) I have always believed that the law on drugs should be guided by the scientific evidence. If the adv...
David Davis | 434 c433-4 (Link to this contribution) I will give the hon. Gentleman the arguments on identity cards later in my speech when I deal with t...
David Miliband | 434 c521 (Link to this contribution) Having changed parties, Mr. Sedgemore may still be ready to ride to the rescue. I know that, in r...
Charles Clarke | 434 c422 (Link to this contribution) Not in a direct mail letter in the way that it was done. Sir Sandy Bruce-Lockhart, the leader of Ken...
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Crime Asylum Charities Identity cards Politics and government Terrorism Religious hatred
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