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Estimates day on Monday, 20 March 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom. The answering member was Adam Ingram.

Ministry of Defence

Spring supplementary estimates 2005-06. Second estimates day (part one). Motion that, for the year ending with 31st March 2006, for expenditure by the Ministry of Defence— (1) further resources, not exceeding £1,776,067,000, be authorised for use as set out in House of Commons Paper No. 827, (2) a further sum, not exceeding £1,889,814,000, be granted to Her Majesty out of the Consolidated Fund to meet the costs as so set out, and (3) limits as so set out be set on appropriations in aid. Question deferred. Resolved.

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Parliamentary proceeding
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444 c35-75 
Session
2005-06
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Ministry of Defence
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Supply estimates
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House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c37 (Link to this contribution) I note that my right hon. Friend’s excellent report calls for more information. A request was made b...
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom | 444 c35-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Because of that time limit, I shall do my utmost to keep my own r...
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Dai Havard | 444 c46-8 (Link to this contribution) First, I want to talk about the reasons for the debate. As a member of the Defence Committee, I thin...
Malcolm Rifkind | 444 c44-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the hon. Gentleman is correct. Although that is not my view, it was the official view. However,...
Bob Russell | 444 c44 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the right hon. and learned Gentleman was not a Member at the time, but will he con...
Malcolm Rifkind | 444 c43-4 (Link to this contribution) I never thought that I would follow the hon. Member for Leyton and Wanstead (Harry Cohen) and have t...
Harry Cohen | 444 c41-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Defence Committee for producing the   report before us, and I am also grateful ...
Nick Harvey | 444 c38-41 (Link to this contribution) I commend the right hon. Member for North-East Hampshire (Mr. Arbuthnot) and his Committee on their ...
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom | 444 c37-8 (Link to this contribution) Because we have a listening Minister and a listening Government. I am sure that, this time around, t...
Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 444 c48 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful argument that what matters is not how much money is spent, b...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c50-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the House for allowing me to participate in this important debate. As my right hon....
Lord Beamish | 444 c51 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hon. Gentleman was not in the House when the decision was taken to invade Iraq, but ...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point, but Basra is working in isolation from Baghdad. There is no ...
Harry Cohen | 444 c52 (Link to this contribution) Is it not also the case that the democratically elected authorities are working in isolation from th...
Dai Havard | 444 c48 (Link to this contribution) As I am not responsible for that matter, I cannot answer the hon. Gentleman’s question, but I know t...
Brian Jenkins | 444 c48 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend, like me, believe that the MOD sends a blank cheque to the Treasury and asks for...
Dai Havard | 444 c48-50 (Link to this contribution) Yes, there are mechanical processes that we could put in place that would facilitate better understa...
Adam Holloway | 444 c50 (Link to this contribution) The report by the Select Committee on Defence states:"““Telling Parliament that the costs of the dep...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c52 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman contradicts the point made by his hon. Friend the Member for North Durham (Mr. Jo...
Dai Havard | 444 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman’s argument and I do not doubt that his motives are good, but do not ...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c53 (Link to this contribution) It is not for me to decide anything. That is for the Iraqi people to decide. When I put the argument...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c53-4 (Link to this contribution) First, the Kurds were never asked. If we look at the constitution, we see that the regions are given...
Dai Havard | 444 c53 (Link to this contribution) The Iraqi people voted to maintain their country within its current borders. They did not vote in th...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c53 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will make it brief, I shall be happy to give way.
Jeremy Corbyn | 444 c55 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge the points that the hon. Gentleman is making, but does he accept that many families of...
Bob Russell | 444 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for clarifying his position so eloquently. I congratulate the Ch...
Harry Cohen | 444 c54 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving me the opportunity to do just that: when I was a member of the...
Bob Russell | 444 c54 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the right hon. and learned Member for Kensington and Chelsea (Sir Malcolm Rifkind) on...
Bob Russell | 444 c55 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge the hon. Gentleman’s point, but, as I said, we have a duty and responsibility to remai...
Adam Ingram | 444 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) It is worth while the hon. Gentleman reflecting on the fact that 5 per cent. of what ABRO does is al...
Bob Russell | 444 c56 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that. Nevertheless, last time I went to the ABRO workshops in Colchester, I...
Bob Russell | 444 c56 (Link to this contribution) That proves the power of an all-party delegation to get things sorted just like that. Something mus...
Lord Beamish | 444 c56 (Link to this contribution) On the rubber mattresses that the hon. Gentleman mentions, does he accept that the commanding office...
Bob Russell | 444 c56 (Link to this contribution) I do not recognise that insult. I am trying to make a serious point. I ask the MOD to consider wheth...
Lord Beamish | 444 c56 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it was made worse for the poor individual who had to sit next to ...
Lord Beamish | 444 c57 (Link to this contribution) I have had previous discussions with the hon. Gentleman about his views on Iraq. Had he not already ...
Crispin Blunt | 444 c57 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Colchester (Bob Russell). He says that the rea...
Crispin Blunt | 444 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is correct about the timing and I am happy to say that what I saw on the ground c...
Speaker | 444 c58 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Member for Reigate (Mr. Blunt) will obviously answer that intervention in his own wa...
Crispin Blunt | 444 c58 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for your guidance, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The answer to the hon. Gentleman is that I agre...
Jeremy Corbyn | 444 c58 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman acknowledge that the removal by the United States of people, particularly fr...
Harry Cohen | 444 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) I am aware that the Conservatives, with some honourable exceptions, voted for the war in Iraq. Does ...
Julian Lewis | 444 c60 (Link to this contribution) When I first entered the House in 1997, it was not long before the bright, shiny new Labour Governme...
Crispin Blunt | 444 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Rhymney as well as Merthyr Tydfil has taken a quarter of the time remaining for ...
Dai Havard | 444 c59 (Link to this contribution) Actually, I am the Member for Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney. The hon. Gentleman had better not forget R...
Crispin Blunt | 444 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I would like to finish my remarks, but if I have time to spare, I...
Harry Cohen | 444 c63 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is being much too pious. Through one of its biggest operations i...
Julian Lewis | 444 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) I can assure the hon. Gentleman that I have barely begun to be pious; I have a lot more piety left i...
Malcolm Rifkind | 444 c64 (Link to this contribution) I did in fact mention a third consideration that might justify war: when there is a sufficient degre...
Julian Lewis | 444 c64 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly what my right hon. and learned Friend said, but he did not say that when the country...
Julian Lewis | 444 c61-3 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman does not seem to have understood my point, which was that the cho...
Adam Ingram | 444 c66-7 (Link to this contribution) That is very helpful. At least we have the support of the hon. Gentleman’s party for what we seek to...
Julian Lewis | 444 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) What I am saying is that there are conceivable circumstances in which military action might be neces...
Richard Younger-Ross | 444 c64 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the hon. Gentleman very closely. He made the case for a pre-emptive strike where t...
Adam Ingram | 444 c65-6 (Link to this contribution) Any debate that has the word ““defence”” in it usually ends up being wide ranging and the situation ...
Adam Ingram | 444 c73-5 (Link to this contribution) There has been much analysis of that point and although I recognise the hon. Gentleman’s military ba...
Tobias Ellwood | 444 c73 (Link to this contribution) I pose again the question that I put in the debate. At present, between 60 and 70 people are being k...
Adam Ingram | 444 c71-3 (Link to this contribution) Well, the hon. Gentleman had better get used to tough times. I would have thought that the Committee...
Adam Ingram | 444 c69-71 (Link to this contribution) I have explained some of the rationale behind that. The report recognises that some things might not...
Adam Ingram | 444 c71 (Link to this contribution) Well, I wish to make some progress now. I may get the chance later to allow the hon. Gentleman to in...
Speaker | 444 c67 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman’s intervention must be brief.
Harry Cohen | 444 c67 (Link to this contribution) I am astonished by the Minister’s last comment. He is saying that because people are taking risks as...
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom | 444 c69 (Link to this contribution) It was not the inclusion of a contingency that caused us concern, but the inclusion of a contingency...
Adam Ingram | 444 c67-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend of course completely misconstrued what I was saying. I was not in any way justifying ...
Adam Ingram | 444 c67 (Link to this contribution) No, I am going to deal with this point first. I will come to what my hon. Friend said and perhaps he...
Speaker | 444 c35 (Link to this contribution) I have imposed a time limit of 10 minutes on Back-Bench speeches which applies after the opening spe...
Subjects
Armed forces Defence Deployment Finance Iraq Public expenditure Peacekeeping operations Ministry of Defence Afghanistan
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