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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 27 June 2007, in the House of Commons, led by Vera Baird. The answering member was Lord Bellingham.

Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill [Lords]

Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill (HL). Report stage. New Clauses 7, 8, 9, 10 and 13 debated and agreed to on question. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed with amendments.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
462 c339-437 
Session
2006-07
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Third reading
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Vera Baird | 462 c345 (Link to this contribution) I am immensely grateful to the hon. Members for North-West Norfolk (Mr. Bellingham) and for North So...
Simon Hughes | 462 c345 (Link to this contribution) I too thank the Minister for writing to us in good time for today’s debate. She indicated the Govern...
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Lord Bellingham | 462 c344-5 (Link to this contribution) I begin by thanking the Minister for her courtesy in writing to the Opposition Front-Bench team—and ...
Vera Baird | 462 c342-4 (Link to this contribution) New clauses 7 and 9 and amendments Nos. 43 to 63 deal with a single topic, which is that those who h...
Speaker | 462 c342 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 8—Appointment of te...
Vera Baird | 462 c341 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Simon Hughes | 462 c348-50 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff, Central (Jenny Willott) and I tabled new clauses 2 and 4 and ...
Speaker | 462 c347-8 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 4—Uniforms ‘All enforcement age...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c353-6 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to what the hon. Member for North Southwark and Bermondsey (Simon Hughes)—my ho...
Simon Hughes | 462 c347 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Vera Baird | 462 c357-9 (Link to this contribution) It is likely to be at least two years before the SIA is in that position. I cannot be any more speci...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c356 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. We may cover such matters when we move on to the fourth group, where our amendment...
David Drew | 462 c356 (Link to this contribution) In Committee, we discussed how bailiffs work with business people and how they enter business premis...
Simon Hughes | 462 c357 (Link to this contribution) I apologise if the Minister was about to tell us this, but we were hoping that she will update us re...
Simon Hughes | 462 c365-7 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I have a constituent who works in the building where our constituency office is, a relativel...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c367 (Link to this contribution) I seek your guidance, Mr. Deputy Speaker, on when to move new clause 6.
Simon Hughes | 462 c364-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her full and careful response to the debate. It was extremely helpful that ...
Neil Gerrard | 462 c365 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept also that it is not just people who are in financial trouble who will...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c359 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned complaints against private bailiffs, but what would happen if one wanted to c...
Vera Baird | 462 c359 (Link to this contribution) No, and if I may, I shall come on to Crown public employees in a minute, because as the hon. Gentlem...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c362 (Link to this contribution) I am interested to hear that. My hon. and learned Friend is almost certainly right, as she usually i...
Vera Baird | 462 c362-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. At the moment, that is an important omission for public purposes,...
Simon Hughes | 462 c359 (Link to this contribution) In relation to the interim period and the certification by county court judges, the Minister will kn...
Vera Baird | 462 c359-62 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman appositely points out that this is a sort of barrister-fest, given the background...
Rob Marris | 462 c374 (Link to this contribution) I am a non-practising solicitor. Do the hon. Gentleman and the Conservative party support legal aid ...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c374-5 (Link to this contribution) That is a good question. I believe that employment tribunal cases should come under the same system ...
Speaker | 462 c367 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is slightly ahead of himself. All good things, or perhaps some good things, come ...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c367 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I have spent much of my life in that condition.
Simon Hughes | 462 c367 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 462 c367-8 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: new clause 11— Enforcement of Mobile Homes...
Simon Hughes | 462 c368-70 (Link to this contribution) New clause 3 and amendment No. 4 relate to legal aid and amendment No. 72 is on an entirely differen...
Lord Benyon | 462 c370-2 (Link to this contribution) New clause 11 refers to park homes, the legislation behind which can be found in the Mobile Homes Ac...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c372-4 (Link to this contribution) I would like first to address my remarks to new clause 11, which was so ably discussed by my hon. Fr...
Rob Marris | 462 c378 (Link to this contribution) I salute what my hon. and learned Friend has done in trying to bear down on legal aid costs. There i...
Vera Baird | 462 c377 (Link to this contribution) New clause 3 was indeed first; the hon. Gentleman is right. I hope that he will not mind if I deal w...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c376-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to take anything for granted. If one takes too much for granted, one loses trust and c...
Vera Baird | 462 c377 (Link to this contribution) I shall take the items in the same order in which they were proposed, if that is acceptable to all t...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c375-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall not go down the route that the hon. Gentleman suggests, except to say that I am sure his par...
Vera Baird | 462 c378 (Link to this contribution) I will deal with my hon. Friend’s point, then I will gladly give way to the hon. Gentleman. As I ha...
Simon Hughes | 462 c384 (Link to this contribution) If you will allow me, Madam Deputy Speaker, I shall start my response by saying that we began the de...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c382 (Link to this contribution) I assure the Minister that amendment No. 9 is not driven exclusively by the concerns about compensat...
Vera Baird | 462 c382 (Link to this contribution) I accept that entirely and I am grateful for that intervention. The hon. Gentleman made the point th...
Rob Marris | 462 c382 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has touched on a point that struck me when the hon. Member for North-West Norfolk (Mr. ...
Vera Baird | 462 c382-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point about the potential cost of appeals if the persons hearing the cas...
Lord Benyon | 462 c378 (Link to this contribution) On Second Reading, I spoke of an experience that I had had when a vexatious claim was made against m...
Vera Baird | 462 c378-80 (Link to this contribution) I am more familiar with the procedure in the legal aid system in which another party to a case has t...
Simon Hughes | 462 c380 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is being very helpful. If she clarifies one point, I will be happy to respond to her in...
Vera Baird | 462 c380-2 (Link to this contribution) Those who are eligible for legal aid for a judicial review in the High Court will not be put at a di...
Speaker | 462 c397-400 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 68, page 44, line 36 [Clau...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c397 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 10, page 43, line 28, at end insert—
Lord Bellingham | 462 c416 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her response. She has put my mind at rest on some points, and cert...
Vera Baird | 462 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) I did not really want to quibble on this subject, but the fact is that if recipients are knowing deb...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c415 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but the Minister has given a trivial defence. The letter sent by recorded delivery could...
Vera Baird | 462 c415 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says that, but my response to his amendment No. 69, which would oblige post to be sen...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c415 (Link to this contribution) Of course, the signing could be for the recorded delivery of the letters—an acknowledgement that the...
Vera Baird | 462 c413-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not feel trapped. The hon. Gentleman makes an inappropriate inquiry, if I may say so, but the q...
Simon Hughes | 462 c413 (Link to this contribution) May I deduce, therefore, that the answer is that breach of standards would normally result in loss o...
Vera Baird | 462 c411-3 (Link to this contribution) As everyone has said, this is quite a sizeable group of amendments. I will deal with them painstakin...
Simon Hughes | 462 c413 (Link to this contribution) Is there an automatic penalty for breach of any of the standards in the manual?
Vera Baird | 462 c413 (Link to this contribution) I do not know that it would be an automatic penalty. We intend to bring the national standards and t...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c406 (Link to this contribution) That is another reason for expediting proceedings. I want to go home and wait for the phone not to r...
Simon Hughes | 462 c406 (Link to this contribution) We had an interesting discussion during the voting as to whether, before the new Prime Minister appo...
Brooks Newmark | 462 c407-11 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to be able to return to this important if somewhat heterogeneous Bill, although I ver...
Simon Hughes | 462 c406-7 (Link to this contribution) There may be time yet. This group of amendments was introduced by the hon. Member for North-West No...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c404-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak about amendments Nos. 68, 25, 69, 36, 26, 38, 27, 28, 70, 29 to 32 and 40. Reading the...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c400-4 (Link to this contribution) The amendments relate to enforcement by taking control of goods, and the relevant procedure. I shall...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c406 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that example; I have heard similar examples, but not of such a low price for an es...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c405-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might not be aware of it, but I gave an example in Committee of a woman who had a...
Lord Bellingham | 462 c433-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her comments. As she pointed out, the Bill tries to achieve a number of end...
Mark Fisher | 462 c420 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 83, page 99, line 18, after ‘with’, insert"‘the Due Diligence Guidelines...
Jenny Willott | 462 c424 (Link to this contribution) Liberal Democrat Members agree with almost all that has been said on the subject. We held an interes...
Vera Baird | 462 c424-6 (Link to this contribution) I applaud the intention behind the amendments tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Stoke-on-Trent...
Mark Fisher | 462 c426 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister. Her response has been extraordinarily constructive and positive....
Speaker | 462 c420-1 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 84, page 99, line 20, at en...
Mark Fisher | 462 c421-3 (Link to this contribution) The amendments seek to ensure that the immunity that is granted to works of art as they travel betwe...
Michael Fallon | 462 c423 (Link to this contribution) These are important amendments. The House is indebted to the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 462 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mark Fisher) for tabling the amendment...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c435 (Link to this contribution) I join the chorus of praise. The Bill is leaving the House in a better form than when it arrived. In...
Speaker | 462 c435 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hesitate to interrupt the hon. Gentleman, but this is a Third Reading debate, rather than a...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c436 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Mr. Deputy Speaker. A Third Reading third rant is not appropriate. The problems to whi...
Simon Hughes | 462 c436-7 (Link to this contribution) This has been a momentous afternoon. In less than seven hours, one Prime Minister has answered his l...
Austin Mitchell | 462 c350-2 (Link to this contribution) It a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend across the tramlines, or rather, across the tracks—if I may c...
Vera Baird | 462 c377-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. Amendment No. 4, which was also tabled by the hon. Member for ...
Vera Baird | 462 c356-7 (Link to this contribution) First, may I tell my hon. Friend the Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) how much I would have w...
Vera Baird | 462 c432-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. This has been called a heterogeneous Bill ...
Subjects
Administration of justice Debts Artworks Debt collection Courts martial Fees and charges Enforcement Legal aid scheme Judiciary Judges Law Commission Pay Public appointments Park homes Tribunals Regulation Retirement Uniforms
Legislation
Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill (HL) 2006-07
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