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Debate on Thursday, 24 January 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Harman. The answering member was Baroness May of Maidenhead.

Members' Salaries, Pensions and Allowances

Debate to approve motions on Members' salaries, pensions and allowances. Agreed on question.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
470 c1653-720 
Session
2007-08
Department
Leader of the House of Commons
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Baker Report
Tuesday, 17 June 2008
Written statements
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Helen Goodman | 470 c1716 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I was not absolutely clear. We will publish the report so that all hon. Members can re...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1716 (Link to this contribution) Yes. My hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Central (Tony Lloyd) emphasised the value of consist...
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Lord Maples | 470 c1716 (Link to this contribution) Will the House be able to reach a conclusion on the matter before the summer recess?
Helen Goodman | 470 c1716 (Link to this contribution) We will publish the report after we have received it. We will give ample time for all hon. Members t...
Linda Gilroy | 470 c1717 (Link to this contribution) I sought clarification of whether, by accepting today's proposals for the staff allowance, we could ...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1717 (Link to this contribution) I understand my hon. Friend's point, and she is, of course, free to make representations to the MEC ...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1716-7 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but other hon. Members have raised many issues, which I want to address. We are all gra...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1717 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has missed me out. I wanted her to make it clear to Sir John Baker that we need a for...
David Anderson | 470 c1713-4 (Link to this contribution) The speech by the hon. Member for Bournemouth, West (Sir John Butterfill) showed how the debate has ...
John Butterfill | 470 c1711-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not have the figures to hand, but it is a very small number. Only a minority of Members ever go...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1715 (Link to this contribution) We have had a very good debate, in which we have seen how immensely complex the issues and systems a...
Nicholas Winterton | 470 c1715 (Link to this contribution) Although I believe that this House can and should always set an example, it is wrong to suggest that...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1715 (Link to this contribution) What the hon. Gentleman says is born of his long experience, but I would draw a distinction between ...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1715 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady confirm whether it is possible for the system emerging from Baker's report to mak...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1715-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes. Our objective is that Baker will report, and we will then take decisions on what he proposes, w...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1716 (Link to this contribution) The issue of timetabling is important. The hon. Lady said that the Baker review would be given to th...
Speaker | 470 c1718 (Link to this contribution) Amendments (f) and (g) to the motion before the House are not being moved. Amendment (d) thereto the...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1718 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not, because there is no time. The London supplement is part of taxable pay, and so is c...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1718-9 (Link to this contribution) In view of the firm commitment by the Leader of the House that she and the Government would welcome ...
Helen Goodman | 470 c1717 (Link to this contribution) I am very sorry; I did not intend any rudeness towards my hon. Friend, who is a pioneer in the field...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1698-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope that every hon. Member will support the Government's motion to keep our pay increase in line ...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1697-8 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the right hon. Gentleman, and this is why. The SSRB has just sent us a detaile...
Lord McLoughlin | 470 c1697 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is on to an important point. Every hon. Member finds the issue of voting on pay u...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1697 (Link to this contribution) As a point of principle, it would be desirable if the Deputy Leader of the House responded to the po...
Nicholas Winterton | 470 c1697 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on the excellent and relevant speech that he is making, but will h...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1697 (Link to this contribution) I was about to commend that to the hon. Gentleman. I, too, have heard such accounts, but I can cast ...
John Butterfill | 470 c1696-7 (Link to this contribution) More than six months have passed since the SSRB report was prepared. The Government had the first dr...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1696 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. Inviting Sir John to undertake the review is interesting, giv...
John Bercow | 470 c1696 (Link to this contribution) Sir John may be an estimable individual, and an agreeable dinner companion to boot, but, on the evid...
Lord Beamish | 470 c1704 (Link to this contribution) How would the hon. Gentleman pick those 100 Members?
Lord Maples | 470 c1703-4 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that none of the people who write those editorials would do the job even for the pay of th...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1703 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman got off to a pretty good start, but somewhere along the line he has gone away wit...
Lord Maples | 470 c1700-3 (Link to this contribution) I think that I entered the House a little later than the hon. Member for Sunderland, South (Mr. Mull...
Lord Maples | 470 c1703 (Link to this contribution) I will get us into it once. There will be one unpleasant occasion on which we settle this and then w...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1699-700 (Link to this contribution) I would hope that we could get ourselves into a position where the Government would not feel obliged...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1700 (Link to this contribution) I am not in favour of our trying to identify yet again another civil service grade to which we can b...
Stephen Hammond | 470 c1707 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has been putting the case for London and London MPs. He just said that he support...
Andrew Dismore | 470 c1705-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to say a great deal about the salary issue. I will support the Government's expression...
Lord Maples | 470 c1705 (Link to this contribution) I was simply offering a way of introducing a productivity gain to finance the pay increase, which is...
Peter Bottomley | 470 c1705 (Link to this contribution) If we took that Isle of Wight figure as the standard quota of voters, could we not reduce the number...
Andrew Dismore | 470 c1707 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman took the words right out of my mouth. That was exactly what I was about to say. I...
Lord Maples | 470 c1704 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should pay more attention to my speeches. I had a ten-minute Bill on this subject...
Lord Maples | 470 c1704 (Link to this contribution) I do not think so, but this is not the occasion to debate that. I have instituted debates on the mat...
Nicholas Winterton | 470 c1704 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has introduced another element into the debate. I believe in being closely in touch w...
Lord Deben | 470 c1710 (Link to this contribution) If all the mistakes are so obvious why, when Watson Wyatt completed its first draft, did it not go t...
John Butterfill | 470 c1710 (Link to this contribution) The situation is that the right to retire early exists in all other areas of the public service, but...
Ronnie Campbell | 470 c1711 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman tell the House how many former Members are on the full-term pension?
John Butterfill | 470 c1710-1 (Link to this contribution) I share my right hon. Friend's puzzlement. I can only hope that if Messrs. Watson Wyatt or some othe...
Ronnie Campbell | 470 c1709 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman know who has been advising the people who have drawn up this report on our p...
John Butterfill | 470 c1707-9 (Link to this contribution) It will not surprise right hon. and hon. Members that I shall start by speaking principally about th...
Lord Beamish | 470 c1709 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the recommendation on trying to cap the Government contribution t...
John Butterfill | 470 c1709 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I assume that it was the Treasury. I am by no means certain of that but, if it was,...
David Anderson | 470 c1710 (Link to this contribution) Did not the Government put that proposal to employees across the public sector in 2004 because of th...
John Butterfill | 470 c1709-10 (Link to this contribution) I shall refer to that later, if time permits, but it is important to get the facts on the record. Wa...
Richard Ottaway | 470 c1655 (Link to this contribution) On the point about rescinding the 1996 resolution, might it not be sensible to keep the measure in p...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1653 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That, in the opinion of this House, the system for determining the salaries of Member...
Speaker | 470 c1653-4 (Link to this contribution) With this we shall consider amendments (f), (g), (d) and (c) thereto, and the following motions: Me...
Speaker | 470 c1653 (Link to this contribution) Before we begin the debate, it may help the House if I indicate that there will be a single debate o...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1659 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the right hon. Gentleman, who is a member of the Members Estimate Committee.
Baroness Harman | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) That is what we have said. My right hon. Friend is right. We need a clear timetable, not least becau...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1659 (Link to this contribution) The Government's clear intention is that we should come back to the House with any proposals for cha...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1658-9 (Link to this contribution) It is within the remit of the Members Estimate Committee to deliberate on any comparator for Members...
Lord Touhig | 470 c1659 (Link to this contribution) I was fairly clear about the timetable until a moment ago when my right hon. and learned Friend said...
Bob Spink | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) Why should not the proposals of the Members Estimate Committee be brought to the House in parallel w...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) I turn to the amendments. I want to set out their effect and the Government's response, but first I ...
Lord Spicer | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) Has Sir John Baker accepted a specific timetable? If so, what are the dates?
Lord Spellar | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) It is extremely important that we are clear on the timetable for the review. It is the view on both ...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1657 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members will have seen the terms of reference that the Government set out for Sir John Baker, a...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1657 (Link to this contribution) I will, if I may, press on with my speech. I know that many hon. Members want to catch Mr. Speaker's...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1657 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. and learned Lady comment on the concern that a number of Members feel that a rev...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1657-8 (Link to this contribution) Sir John Baker is entirely independent. He also has a great deal of experience, and if any fresh thi...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1655-6 (Link to this contribution) It is really an earnest of our good intent that we propose to scrap the existing mechanism, but we d...
Lord Maples | 470 c1656 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Lady and I have been in the House a long time. In the past, we have set l...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1656-7 (Link to this contribution) On these matters, the House is sovereign. It is possible for the House to decide on a framework, wit...
Martin Salter | 470 c1657 (Link to this contribution) So that the Leader of the House hears the same argument from both sides of the House, may I point ou...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1679 (Link to this contribution) Whether or not MPs represent Orkney and Shetland or the Cities of London and Westminster—the two mos...
Mark Field | 470 c1679 (Link to this contribution) Although I may have been called extreme at certain times, I am sure that the hon. Member for Orkney ...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1678-9 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely understand that. That is why I support the proposal that the administration of this mat...
Stephen Hammond | 470 c1679 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Cities of London and Westminster (Mr. Field) and I gave written and or...
Andrew Mackinlay | 470 c1678 (Link to this contribution) I am a bit nervous about the London dimension, partly because of my geographical position. My staff ...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1677-8 (Link to this contribution) Let me carry on for a minute. I might come to a natural point at which the hon. Gentleman can interv...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1677 (Link to this contribution) The two points of view are not contradictory, but I agree with that argument. The report makes it cl...
Lord Maples | 470 c1676 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the hon. Member for Sunderland, South (Mr. Mullin) is right. The reason that a w...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1676 (Link to this contribution) I share that view entirely; the danger is that what has happened in the past might happen again. If ...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1676 (Link to this contribution) The point that the hon. Member for Somerton and Frome (Mr. Heath) has just made is exactly right. Wh...
Tony Wright | 470 c1675 (Link to this contribution) We are getting into some real complications. It might seem straightforward to say that we will inven...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1675 (Link to this contribution) There lies another rub. The hon. Gentleman is right. I believe that it is better for us to accept th...
David Heath | 470 c1675-6 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend that it could be difficult to find a comparator that works year on year....
Simon Hughes | 470 c1676 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend, and I see the hon. Member for Sunderland, South (Mr. Mullin)...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1673-4 (Link to this contribution) That is why I have found pay uncomfortable, but never a matter that we should say it was not our res...
Mark Field | 470 c1673 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the hon. Gentleman with great interest, and I must confess that I agree with him v...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1674-5 (Link to this contribution) I understand the right hon. Gentleman's point, and I hope that that is where we are likely to get to...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1674 (Link to this contribution) It might be helpful if we clarified what is being proposed, otherwise we might be going down a blind...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1672-3 (Link to this contribution) We might find this debate a bit embarrassing, but it is one that we properly need to have. It is goo...
Lord Spicer | 470 c1696 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is on exactly the right track and is making the point about which I tried to ask ...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1696 (Link to this contribution) The sooner the matter can be clarified, the better. I tabled an amendment precisely because of the v...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1695 (Link to this contribution) Again, we are in danger of mixing up two elements. One is the question addressed by the SSRB of the ...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1696 (Link to this contribution) Again, I am interested in the right hon. Gentleman's comments, which sound sensible. He is a sensibl...
Linda Gilroy | 470 c1693 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes her point well. I thought that she was going to make a comparison with the sala...
Nick Harvey | 470 c1693-5 (Link to this contribution) We are having an interesting debate on this issue. It is perhaps not as heated or exciting as some t...
Linda Gilroy | 470 c1692-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Penrith and The Border (David Maclean) who, alo...
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c1693 (Link to this contribution) I endorse my hon. Friend's views on staff. Has she had the opportunity to compare the salaries that ...
Nicholas Winterton | 470 c1691 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is about to finish and he has not touched on a subject that has not been raised...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1691-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has for some time been raising the question of the mileage allowance of which he has ...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1688-9 (Link to this contribution) I will leave it to my hon. Friend to convince the House that the Committee should be given that task...
Desmond Swayne | 470 c1689 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Speaker has informed me that he has not selected my amendment for debate; might we not, in a sim...
John Butterfill | 470 c1690 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept, as he will hear when I speak later in the debate, if I am able to ...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1687 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but a mechanism can be twofold. The first element is the need to deal with the immediate issue,...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1687-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the right hon. Member for Warley (Mr. Spellar), with whose speech I agre...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1687 (Link to this contribution) That may indeed be the case, but it is certainly not what the terms of reference say. The implicatio...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1686 (Link to this contribution) There are two issues that we must disentangle. The first is the question of the next two years. I un...
Lord Spicer | 470 c1686 (Link to this contribution) That describes the voting procedure. However, when will the new mechanism be implemented? In which y...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1684 (Link to this contribution) Up to a point, Lord Copper. When my right hon. Friend was saying how far we had fallen behind, he dr...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1684-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite wrong. That increase reflected several years during which, for a number of r...
Linda Gilroy | 470 c1684 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend's office noticed that whereas organisations used to send us hard copies of ...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1684 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. The PWC report misunderstands the situation when it says that problems of w...
Lord Spicer | 470 c1686 (Link to this contribution) Again, this is a question of timing, which is essential. May I ask the right hon. Gentleman the ques...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1686 (Link to this contribution) There were a number of indications from the Leader of the House that she hopes to get the report rec...
Mark Field | 470 c1685 (Link to this contribution) Is there not a concern that irrespective of whether we use a basket or some level of comparability, ...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1685-6 (Link to this contribution) A sovereign Parliament would make a decision before the recess that our pay increases should be link...
Nicholas Winterton | 470 c1683 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the right hon. Gentleman has raised the number of hours that the overwhelming ma...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1683 (Link to this contribution) I was going to deal with that later, but I shall do so now. There are two elements that we need to d...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1683-4 (Link to this contribution) Some Members used to be trade union officials. I remember people saying, ““You should be paid the av...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1679 (Link to this contribution) I ask colleagues not only to vote for that but to bear in mind that it is completely illogical to ha...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1680 (Link to this contribution) Well—[Interruption.] I will gave way to the hon. Gentleman, whom I respect, but I am saying only tha...
Richard Ottaway | 470 c1680 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for my intemperate reaction to the hon. Gentleman's remark. I do not know when he last t...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1681-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall concentrate my remarks largely on pay, because the section on allowances has in the main bee...
John Bercow | 470 c1683 (Link to this contribution) For the avoidance of doubt, will the right hon. Gentleman say whether he agrees that it is not to th...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend describes what has happened in the past, notably the Government whipping Front ...
Lord Maples | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) As regards my right hon. Friend's continuing double act with the hon. Member for Reading, West (Mart...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Stratford-on-Avon (Mr. Maples).
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to say to the hon. Gentleman that it is my intention that this House finds a way of deter...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1665 (Link to this contribution) That is certainly my hon. Friend's interpretation of the remit that has been given to the review bod...
John Bercow | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) I am exceptionally grateful to my right hon. Friend, who has been generous in giving way. I am grav...
Andrew Mackinlay | 470 c1665 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to what the right hon. Lady is saying about MPs' pay. Another part of the b...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1665 (Link to this contribution) I have been very generous, but I will give way one more time to the hon. Member for Thurrock (Andrew...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1665 (Link to this contribution) I would make two comments in response to the hon. Gentleman. First, I support the alternative career...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) No—I said that I would take one more intervention, and I am going to make some more progress. The S...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) I have told the hon. Gentleman that I am not giving way. The SSRB says that most of what are known ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) If my right hon. Friend will allow me, I have said that I want to make some progress. I am sure that...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1659 (Link to this contribution) There will be an opportunity for hon. Members to consider Sir John Baker's proposals and the Governm...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1659 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Lady and I have the privilege of serving together on the Members Estimate...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1660-1 (Link to this contribution) There are two problems with the current linkage. First, it was incomprehensible to the outside world...
Chris Mullin | 470 c1660 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend is very kind. Is it not desirable that, whatever formula the Baker ...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1660 (Link to this contribution) I will make this the last intervention for the time being. Some years ago my hon. Friend proposed th...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1660 (Link to this contribution) We expect the process in future to be independent. How we change from the current system of the SSRB...
Peter Luff | 470 c1660 (Link to this contribution) I am confident that Sir John Baker would like to produce an independent and good report that would i...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1660 (Link to this contribution) The Committee is made up of Members of exceptional distinction and is drawn from those on both sides...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1661 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the right hon. and learned Lady, who has been exceptionally courteous. If we ...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1661 (Link to this contribution) I hope I do not regret this, but I will give way one last time.
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1663-4 (Link to this contribution) I refer the hon. Gentleman to the sedentary intervention from the Leader of the House. I hope and ex...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1663 (Link to this contribution) If her party is in future responsible for receiving any reports from any independent body—on pay, st...
Martin Salter | 470 c1664 (Link to this contribution) To avoid the right hon. Lady falling foul of her own charge of dithering, will she take this opportu...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1662-3 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say that I relish speaking in this debate; like many right hon. and hon. Members—and, it wo...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1661-2 (Link to this contribution) Members' remuneration—our pay—is different from the reimbursement of expenditure. As far as ensuring...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1663 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady is right to be critical of the process since the report was handed to the Govern...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1669 (Link to this contribution) I have some fairly fixed views on allowances and what should happen to them. I would prefer to see t...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1668 (Link to this contribution) I will say only this to the hon. Gentleman: I have always taken the view that my job as a Member of ...
Tony Wright | 470 c1668 (Link to this contribution) I agree with almost all that the right hon. Lady is saying, but there is concern about allowances, s...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1667-8 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that that would blast through the Government's pay policy in no uncertain terms. I am temp...
Michael Jabez Foster | 470 c1668 (Link to this contribution) With regard to perception, is not another problem the substantial incomes that some Members—not most...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1666-7 (Link to this contribution) As for the Government's motions, let me first say that I will indeed support the Government's propos...
Nigel Evans | 470 c1667 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend probably did not hear, but someone on our Back Benches suggested that our pay s...
Lord Spellar | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Could you, to aid the House, give an indication of how many hon. M...
Speaker | 470 c1666 (Link to this contribution) That is not a matter that I will go into.
Tony Lloyd | 470 c1671-2 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure where the ambiguity lies. The Leader of the House made it clear that Sir John Baker wi...
Richard Ottaway | 470 c1672 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that the House may choose to reject Sir John Baker's recommendations, but if...
Tony Lloyd | 470 c1672 (Link to this contribution) No, that is not right, for this reason. I understand the hon. Gentleman's point: if we get rid of th...
Tony Lloyd | 470 c1670 (Link to this contribution) I shall leave the hon. Lady to discuss police pay on another occasion. On our pay, the public should...
Mark Field | 470 c1670 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's comments are rather perverse. We criticise Government actions on the police—a n...
Tony Lloyd | 470 c1670-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not know who is grandstanding. The hon. Gentleman may be the one who needs to explain to his co...
Lord Spicer | 470 c1671 (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman been told when the mechanism will be used? We have not been told that yet.
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 470 c1669 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that. The SSRB made a proposal relating to the audit of allowan...
Tony Lloyd | 470 c1669-70 (Link to this contribution) Let me begin where the right hon. Member for Maidenhead (Mrs. May) ended, with an exhortation to the...
Anne Main | 470 c1670 (Link to this contribution) Like me, the hon. Gentleman met members of the police yesterday. Many hon. Members are concerned abo...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1654-5 (Link to this contribution) Although the issue of MPs' pay, pension and allowances is a thorny one, I hope that there will be ag...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1689-90 (Link to this contribution) When I first came to the House in 1983 there were stories about some of our illustrious predecessors...
Ken Purchase | 470 c1699 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned his previous proposal for a pay formula that would have resulted in our pay...
John Butterfill | 470 c1700 (Link to this contribution) We did once have a link with a certain grade of civil servant and it was suggested that our pay shou...
Baroness Harman | 470 c1658 (Link to this contribution) Sir John Baker has kindly agreed to do the work on this important review to the timetable outlined t...
Lord Blencathra | 470 c1690-1 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is respected in all parts of the House for the tremendous amount of work he has done ...
Stephen Hammond | 470 c1688 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to what my right hon. Friend said and he is absolutely right. Does he think tha...
Simon Hughes | 470 c1680-1 (Link to this contribution) I respect the hon. Gentleman, as he knows, and I have been to Croydon, including south Croydon, many...
Stephen Hammond | 470 c1717 (Link to this contribution) Will the Deputy Leader of the House give way?
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