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Debate on bill on Thursday, 31 January 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Jane Kennedy. The answering member was David Gauke.


National Insurance Contributions Bill

National Insurance Contributions Bill. Report stage. Amendment 8 negatived on division (260 to 148). Third reading debate agreed to on division (256 to 147). Bill passed.


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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
471 c514-48 
Session
2007-08
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Third reading
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
David Gauke | 471 c534-5 (Link to this contribution) As the Financial Secretary said, we have had some good scrutiny of the Bill, but Opposition Members ...
Adam Holloway | 471 c535 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that we are in effect legislating for a £1.5 billion tax rise? We were tol...
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Speaker | 471 c530 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
Jane Kennedy | 471 c533-4 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. We have reached the final stage of this Ho...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c538-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to any Member who has taken an interest in the Bill for the past few hours; otherwi...
Simon Burns | 471 c538 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Browne | 471 c538 (Link to this contribution) Today is 31 January, and tax simplification is probably on the minds of many millions of our fellow ...
Speaker | 471 c537 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that we are discussing the Third Reading of the Bill, not the 200...
David Gauke | 471 c535-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. We have been rather consensual this afternoon, as we were in Comm...
Speaker | 471 c540 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sure that the hon. Gentleman knows that he is going wide of the Bill. I hope that he wil...
Peter Viggers | 471 c541-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not look forward to the Bill reaching the statute book. It is a nasty little measure. The Exche...
Speaker | 471 c541 (Link to this contribution) Order. I was allowing what I believed to be a passing reference, but I remind the hon. Gentleman tha...
Speaker | 471 c542 (Link to this contribution) Order. I must remind the hon. Gentleman that he must relate his remarks to the contents of this Bill...
Speaker | 471 c542 (Link to this contribution) Order. That might well be the hon. Gentleman's view, but I must remind him once again that it is per...
Tobias Ellwood | 471 c542-3 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Peter Viggers). He was right...
David Gauke | 471 c543 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend share my curiosity about a question that we pursued in Committee? We asked how m...
Speaker | 471 c544 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let me remind the hon. Gentleman once again that he must relate his remarks to the content of...
Tobias Ellwood | 471 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) I know that my hon. Friend posed that and many other questions in Committee to which he did not get ...
Speaker | 471 c543 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman may well not have received an answer in Committee, but as I said earlier, ...
Speaker | 471 c544 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps the change in Deputy Speaker will manage to persuade the hon. Gentleman that he is on...
Tobias Ellwood | 471 c544 (Link to this contribution) Once again, my hon. Friend gives us pearls of wisdom. This is a day on which we should be returning ...
David Gauke | 471 c544 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that when the Government talk about tax simplification, it is time for the...
David Gauke | 471 c514 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 8, in page 1, line 5, at end insert 'and
David Gauke | 471 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. The matter would be at the heart of any debate about our finances and our t...
Mark Field | 471 c518 (Link to this contribution) Is not one of the biggest concerns the fact that the change is pretty high profile in people's minds...
David Gauke | 471 c517 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the argument for abolishing the ratio has been made; at least, it has not been a...
Mark Field | 471 c517-8 (Link to this contribution) To clarify the issue, is my hon. Friend saying that abolishing the ratio will entirely do away with ...
David Gauke | 471 c516 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend asks a good question. We raised that issue in Committee. Under the new procedure for ...
David Gauke | 471 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) These amendments offer alternative ways to deal with what we perceive to be a significant problem wi...
Mark Field | 471 c516 (Link to this contribution) It gives us insight to have that perspective on the matter. Indeed it shows that there is a comparat...
Speaker | 471 c514-5 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 10, in page 1, line 5, at e...
David Gauke | 471 c520 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting point, which leads me to this observation. I will not dwell on t...
Speaker | 471 c520 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will not stray far into that report.
Mark Field | 471 c520 (Link to this contribution) You will be glad to know, Madam Deputy Speaker, that I am not going to respond to that point. The i...
David Gauke | 471 c520-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is being very helpful. That is exactly the issue. I do not particularly want to debat...
Jane Kennedy | 471 c522 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a thoughtful speech and I am listening carefully to his suggestions. Do...
David Gauke | 471 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) I accept that a review takes place. However, amendments Nos. 10 and 11 deal with circumstances in wh...
David Gauke | 471 c519 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who raises a concern that many have. To be fair to the Government, ...
Peter Viggers | 471 c519 (Link to this contribution) In a throwaway line in his Budget, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer put a tax of some £1.5 billi...
Peter Viggers | 471 c525-6 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, but for this Government, harmonisation is always harmonisation up in respect of taxation rat...
Jane Kennedy | 471 c526-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for South-West Hertfordshire (Mr. Gauke) for tabling the amendments. I also ...
Peter Viggers | 471 c525 (Link to this contribution) The attitude of the hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. Browne) to the Bill is fairly friendly, but mine is...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c525 (Link to this contribution) To clarify my earlier point, one may or may not believe that the changes in taxation are objectionab...
Peter Viggers | 471 c528 (Link to this contribution) I think the Financial Secretary said that no one would be worse off, but the statistics show that 5....
Jane Kennedy | 471 c528-9 (Link to this contribution) I did not seek to imply that nobody would be worse off, but the vast majority of taxpayers and pensi...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c524-5 (Link to this contribution) I am genuinely grateful—I am not merely expressing the customary courtesy of the House—to the hon. G...
David Gauke | 471 c524 (Link to this contribution) I should like to make a point in defence of amendment No. 10. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it ...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c523-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for an opportunity to speak briefly in the debate because there is a reasonable amount...
Jane Kennedy | 471 c544-5 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I thank hon. Members for their kind words to offici...
Speaker | 471 c545 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sure that the Minister would expect me to be even-handed in these matters, so let me giv...
Mark Field | 471 c539-41 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. Browne). I suspect I may be gettin...
David Gauke | 471 c518 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend sums up the position well. For the sake of completeness, let me add that there is the...
Mark Field | 471 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) We had an excellent engagement in the evidence session in Committee. Is my hon. Friend saying that t...
Mark Field | 471 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) We have had a hypothetical debate about the abolition of the upper earnings limit, but there is a sl...
David Gauke | 471 c529-30 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Financial Secretary for her thoughtful response. That has been characteristic o...
Subjects
Income tax National insurance National insurance contributions Tax rates and bands Earnings limits
Legislation
National Insurance Contributions Bill 2007-08
Contains statistics
Yes
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