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Debate on bill on Monday, 18 February 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Ben Bradshaw. The answering member was Stephen O'Brien.

Health and Social Care Bill

Health and Social Care Bill. Report stage. New Clause 15 negatived on division (186 to 263). Amendment 131 negatived on division (179 to 267). Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
472 c44-122 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department of Health
Legislative stage
Third reading
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c77-9 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 62 to 64 and 143 are Government amendments, so I shall speak to them first. Amendmen...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c79-81 (Link to this contribution) We are discussing Government amendment No. 62 and the ensuing ones in the group; again, we have a ho...
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Sandra Gidley | 472 c81-2 (Link to this contribution) When I first read Government amendment No. 62, I thought it a good idea. However, I had a cynical af...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c77 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 62, page 2, line 10, after 'by', insert 'or on behalf of'.
Speaker | 472 c77 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government amendments Nos. 143 and 63 to 6...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c83 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the fact that the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Mr. O'Brien) recognises amendment No. 62 as a...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c83 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 131, page 2, line 11 at end insert—
Speaker | 472 c83-4 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 136, in clause 92, page 45...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c84-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I apologise for the fact that I had to absent myself b...
Lord Deben | 472 c72 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether, as part of a continuing campaign, it would be possible for the Minister to refer a...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c72 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with the right hon. Gentleman. As a result of my desire for clarity, I went back ...
Brian Jenkins | 472 c69 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend the Minister knows, I was not going to speak on the Bill. However, alarm bells are...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c69-72 (Link to this contribution) We enjoyed a long and detailed debate on this issue in Committee. As I said then, I have a great dea...
Baroness Browning | 472 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) That is obviously right. Families who have a loved one in hospital or sick want to do their best for...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c73 (Link to this contribution) I listened very carefully to the Minister. Interestingly, the hon. Member for Tamworth (Mr. Jenkins)...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c72-3 (Link to this contribution) I bore with the Minister right the way through to make sure that he said the whole of what he had to...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c73 (Link to this contribution) Anyone who has fairly followed my record in this place will know that I always try to answer questio...
Lord Deben | 472 c72 (Link to this contribution) I very much accept the help that the Minister is giving, but I come back to the point that, if we ar...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c72 (Link to this contribution) The reason why it needed my intervention was the misunderstanding on behalf of the hon. Member for E...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c65-6 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that we have a chance to debate this subject. I can understand the irritation of the ho...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c66 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady highlights one of the points that has caused me the greatest anxiety. Since 1997, more...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c66 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. The figures are set against an average decrease in the length of stay i...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c67 (Link to this contribution) I wish to contribute briefly to this debate. Traces of minerals and vitamins have been shown, even i...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c67 (Link to this contribution) We need to be careful not to let the market get ahead of us, because we should be trying to lead on ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c67 (Link to this contribution) We are certainly well aware of the problem with aluminium, but some vitamins and trace elements are ...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c67 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware that research has shown that if the level of nutrition is generally high...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c67 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we would all agree that it would be beneficial all round. Specifically, it would be b...
Baroness Browning | 472 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to support the amendments as I spoke on the issue in Committee and I have raised it in ...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c68 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is giving moving evidence, which is an accurate observation that has, I am sure, been...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c61-2 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend does not take exception to the fact that our Committee proposed amendment...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c61 (Link to this contribution) May I reinforce a point about the training and education of staff? On Second Reading, I raised conce...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c62 (Link to this contribution) Just to clarify, I understand that the Government are looking at ways to proceed to a situation in w...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my hon. Friend says, but it is important to get back to where we started before we start...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c63-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 105 is intended to establish regulations to deal with malnutrition. It is drafted in t...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c63 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 472 c63 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 105, in clause 16, page 8, line 31,  at end...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c53-5 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to support the amendments, which my hon. Friend the Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore) tab...
Joan Walley | 472 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the opportunity to speak briefly on this group of amendments and new clauses and I say to ...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c58-61 (Link to this contribution) As has already been said, this group of amendments deals with a number of matters raised in the legi...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c55-8 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Luton, North (Kelvin Hopkins). Nobody can doub...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c48 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a problem arising from privatisation that people not only find themselves in the private s...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) I think that everyone believed that that was the case until Leonard Cheshire put a question mark ove...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) We are debating one of the enduring themes of the Bill. In Committee, Members on both sides made sev...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c48-51 (Link to this contribution) Yes, that is a consequence of the YL case. During a Liaison Committee sitting, I put that point to t...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c47 (Link to this contribution) I want to reinforce my hon. Friend's point, with which I totally agree. It is almost 10 years to the...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c45-7 (Link to this contribution) I also wish to speak in support of new clauses 2 to 4 and amendments Nos. 3 to 18. These new clauses...
Speaker | 472 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 2—Human rights framework for Co...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c44 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c88-9 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, I listened carefully to the Minister's arguments, which are not unfamiliar to those of us...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 472 c92 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The timetable motion relating to tomorrow's business, which...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c87 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has demonstrated why the concept seems so nebulous. Some people argue that all the grou...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c87-8 (Link to this contribution) No. They may well do that and I hope that they will. I do not intend to extend the debate to become ...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) Local involvement networks are the Government's proposed solution to public and patient involvement....
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c87 (Link to this contribution) The amendments lead us into territory that is familiar to those of us who sat through the Committee ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c86 (Link to this contribution) I have agreed to attach my name to the amendments, alongside that of my hon. Friend the Member for N...
Speaker | 472 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 85, page 47, line 6, leave ...
Speaker | 472 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not have any knowledge of how that matter is progressing, but I hope that the hon. Gentleman's ...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c93 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 23, page 47, line 6, leave out from first 'the' to end of line 7 and ins...
Speaker | 472 c120 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind hon. Members to be a little careful in matters of taste when they use expressions in...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c120 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly bemused by the hon. Gentleman's comments about having a boy to do my work for me, but ...
Stephen Hesford | 472 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) Three commissions are to be merged—the Commission for Social Care Inspection, the Healthcare Commiss...
Brian Jenkins | 472 c106 (Link to this contribution) I recognise what my hon. Friend the Minister says, but I also recognise the concern of the hon. Memb...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c106 (Link to this contribution) There are already mechanisms in place, as I am sure my hon. Friend would acknowledge, and it is impo...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c105 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that clarification. I am not entirely sure whether the amendment is n...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c105-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 81 would provide that neither the making of fees regulations by the Secretary of State...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c105 (Link to this contribution) It may be helpful if I clarify that there are precedents elsewhere whereby, when a fee is exchanged ...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c104-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall start by speaking to Liberal Democrat amendment No. 2, which would make it a duty of the Cou...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c102-4 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure how closely the hon. Gentleman has been following the debate. He ought to know that, a...
Jim Devine | 472 c102 (Link to this contribution) As one who worked in the health service and had to deal with the GMC, I am astonished by the hon. Ge...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c102 (Link to this contribution) As I am sure the House knows, the General Medical Council is a registered charity. Over time, other ...
Speaker | 472 c101-2 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment No. 2, in clause 108, page 53, l...
Stephen Hesford | 472 c119-20 (Link to this contribution) Along with other Members who are here, I served on the Public Bill Committee, and I want to put befo...
Greg Mulholland | 472 c120 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Stephen Hesford | 472 c120 (Link to this contribution) No. I am sure that the hon. Member for Romsey is big enough to intervene on me if she wants, but I a...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c113-6 (Link to this contribution) This portmanteau Bill is incredibly wide ranging in content and it leaves vast amounts to secondary ...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c112-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. I would like to begin by thanking hon. Mem...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c118-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank all those involved with the Bill, including my hon. Friend the Member for Leeds, North-West ...
David Leslie Taylor | 472 c116-8 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being in the Chamber for about a minute at the start of the debate. We moved on ...
Jim Devine | 472 c106-7 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend meet me and members of the Nursing and Midwifery Council who are concerned about...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c107 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to the Minister and if there is any residual lack of clarity in the way th...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c107 (Link to this contribution) I am always happy to meet hon. Members. We may be able to discuss the issue informally shortly, and ...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c99 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to enter into a dialogue. What matters is that plenty of people in another place will ...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c99-100 (Link to this contribution) Most of what I want to say has been covered by the Minister and the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Mr. O...
Sandra Gidley | 472 c100 (Link to this contribution) I am not, as yet, entirely convinced that legal chairs are needed in 100 per cent. of cases. However...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c101 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 81, page 53, line 3, at end insert—
Jim Devine | 472 c98 (Link to this contribution) I am one of those individuals who has such experience. Does the hon. Gentleman?
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c96-8 (Link to this contribution) This group includes Government amendments as well as those tabled by my hon. Friends and myself. The...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c98-9 (Link to this contribution) What we are personally qualified to do is not relevant, because we are trying to frame a Bill that i...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c94-6 (Link to this contribution) The amendments will allow the Office of the Health Professions Adjudicator to appoint and use legall...
Kelvin Hopkins | 472 c82-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Minister may know that I have been to visit the Minister with responsibility for ...
Ben Bradshaw | 472 c61 (Link to this contribution) I am about to deal with the amendments Nos. 14 to 18, which refer to professional qualifications and...
Brian Jenkins | 472 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall not detain the House. Having sat through many hours in Committee, I can honestly say that I ...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c62 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend might be about to add to the list.
Subjects
Charities General Medical Council Health services Fees and charges Human rights Enforcement NHS Nutrition Regulation Social services General Optical Council Care Quality Commission Office of the Health Professions Adjudicator Local involvement networks
Legislation
Health and Social Care Bill 2007-08
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