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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 6 May 2008, in the House of Lords.

European Union (Amendment) Bill

European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords Committee stage third day. Part 2 of 2 records.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
701 c516-54 
Session
2007-08
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c537 (Link to this contribution) I think my noble friend had something to do with the drafting of the Maastricht treaty. Does he reme...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c537-8 (Link to this contribution) In that case, I have two specific questions for the Minister. The first is: what has happened to the...
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Lord Blackwell | 701 c537 (Link to this contribution) I must correct the noble Lord; I had nothing to do with the drafting of the Maastricht treaty. But h...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c542 (Link to this contribution) Can I put the same question to the noble Lord? Is that just going to be a decision cooked up in the ...
Lord Bach | 701 c541-2 (Link to this contribution) I should like the noble Lord to continue to hear what I have to say. At one level it would be a deci...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c538 (Link to this contribution) I have. The point that the noble Lord may have missed, because he may not have studied this document...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 701 c538 (Link to this contribution) I am doing my best to follow the noble Lord’s fascinating reasoning. Does he think that there should...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c541 (Link to this contribution) Would that include the House of Commons or would it be a decision for the Executive?
Lord Bach | 701 c538-41 (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this important debate. There can hardly be a subject ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to labour the point. At the present time, the Executive can make war without the consent ...
Lord Bach | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) I have said twice that it is not just a matter for the Executive. It would be a matter for Parliamen...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) It is agreed that the whole thing is approved subject to the rule of Parliament.
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c542-3 (Link to this contribution) I stand corrected. But under the treaties that is not so. If the Executive, the Government of the da...
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 701 c544 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the noble Lord, instead of taking one sentence out of context from the new combined...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c544 (Link to this contribution) Some of us do not mind whether the treaty is wrecked. In case the Minister has not found the words, ...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 701 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister could take a short rest. The provision that the noble Lord, Lord Blackwell, is ...
Lord Bach | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) I will have to look again at the wording of Amendment No. 20 before the noble Lord seduces me into a...
Lord Blackwell | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to raise a broader point that the noble Lord has just covered. If the noble Lord is sa...
Lord Bach | 701 c543 (Link to this contribution) I can do better than repeat myself. There is a definite role for Parliament to play in the eventuali...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c544 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord leads us into the wider question that I posed to the Minister. I look forward to hear...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c546 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend rises to wind up, I notice that the noble Lord—somewhat unusually and giving ...
Lord Bach | 701 c544-6 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Lord will give me the opportunity of giving them. For him to say that there is a h...
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21B: 21B: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article...
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c546-7 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very useful debate, and I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part. The no...
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his assurances. He mentioned the Committee in the other place, but...
Lord Bach | 701 c548 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for moving his amendment, which seeks to exclude the provision on mu...
Baroness Hooper | 701 c549 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment No. 23 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 24 because of pre-emption.
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c549 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23: 23: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article 1...
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 701 c550 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, for whom I have great respect, has got this completely wrong. I put to him the answe...
Lord Bach | 701 c551-2 (Link to this contribution) It is not at the expense of the special relationship. The quotation from President Bush, which I am ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 701 c550-1 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Robertson, obviously has different contacts in Washington from some of the rest...
Baroness Crawley | 701 c554 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c552-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Robertson, made some important points about the EU collectively purchasing equi...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 701 c534 (Link to this contribution) This debate, like many others in this Committee, brings déjà vu all over again. It strikes me that H...
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 701 c536 (Link to this contribution) Who are these other countries in the European Union that are antagonistic to NATO?
Lord Blackwell | 701 c536-7 (Link to this contribution) I defer to the noble Lord’s greater knowledge on this but many instances have come to my attention w...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 701 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) I listened with respect, as I always do, and with interest to the dissertation on defence matters by...
Lord Blackwell | 701 c536 (Link to this contribution) I intervene in this debate with trepidation, given the expertise in this Chamber. But I find myself ...
Baroness Ludford | 701 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) I confess that I am thoroughly confused about what the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral, wants to ach...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 701 c516-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16A: 16A: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article...
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 701 c518 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord refers to untrustworthy foreigners. I was Secretary-General of NATO, which is an orga...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 701 c525 (Link to this contribution) I am rather flattered that all the questions seem to be coming to this side of the House. I do not k...
Baroness Ludford | 701 c520 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure to whom the noble Lord’s question was directed. However, I shall be so presumptu...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 701 c520-2 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Baroness for explaining extremely well the position in that regard. ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 701 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very valuable debate. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, very much for her co...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 701 c523-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 17A: 17A: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 701 c524 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 17A relates to the provisions on the funding arrangements for activity under the CFSP,...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 701 c524 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may address a brief question to the Conservative Front Bench. The leader of the Conservati...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 701 c524-5 (Link to this contribution) I want to ask the noble Lord, Lord Howell of Guildford, why the amendment he has moved subjects the ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 701 c520 (Link to this contribution) Can I just get something clear in my mind? Presumably the data that might be handed over to this new...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 701 c532-4 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I will start my comments on these amendments with a quotation: "““By common consent, the n...
Lord Astor of Hever | 701 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18A: 18A: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article...
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 701 c528-32 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to the noble Lord on the defence aspects of common foreign and security policy ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 701 c525-6 (Link to this contribution) In these heady times, one has to be careful how one interprets getting all the questions. I say to t...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 701 c526-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for answering my query with her usual scrupulous and meticulous ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 701 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) I make two points to the noble Lord, whom I respect greatly, not only for the time when he was in se...
Lord Bach | 701 c542 (Link to this contribution) I thought I had answered that question. I said there was a double lock. This is the first lock, of c...
Subjects
Data protection European Union EU common foreign and security policy EU budget NATO EU defence policy Qualified majority voting
Legislation
European Union (Amendment) Bill 2007-08
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