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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Monday, 23 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Pensions Bill

Pensions Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 21 and 24 agreed to. Clauses 22-23 and 25-27 agreed to as amended. New Clauses (Amendments 81 and 83) agreed to. Part 3 of 3 records.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c1312-28 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 702 c1323 (Link to this contribution) I have a couple of questions. I absolutely support the case that has been made, for the reasons that...
Baroness Noakes | 702 c1321-3 (Link to this contribution) I wish to raise the issue of the burdens that this Bill will impose on employers, in particular on S...
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Baroness Noakes | 702 c1326 (Link to this contribution) I asked the Minister what he thought of the EEF scheme. Will he express an opinion?
Lord Tunnicliffe | 702 c1323-6 (Link to this contribution) I suppose that I ought to thank noble Lords for the questions they have just pitched at me, but the ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1320-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 81: 81: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause— ““Quality requiremen...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 702 c1328 (Link to this contribution) I am very sorry to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, but I cannot share his suspicion on...
Baroness Noakes | 702 c1326-7 (Link to this contribution) I was disappointed in the Minister’s responses. He gave me quite a lot of information on how the dep...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 702 c1326 (Link to this contribution) During the Committee sessions in the other place, employer organisations representing both large and...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1328 (Link to this contribution) I am always extremely suspicious of Governments who put such a new clause into Bills when we have no...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 702 c1328 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1328 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the support of one noble Lord on an unequivocal basis and on a semi-equivocal basi...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1317-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 72: 72: Clause 23, page 10, line 25, leave out from beginning to ““has”” and i...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1317 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 70: 70: Clause 22, page 10, line 18, at end insert— ““( ) The appropriate age ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1317 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I can add much to what I have said. We want to make sure that the test scheme is ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1316-7 (Link to this contribution) I have already spoken to Amendments Nos. 69 and 70. Amendment No. 71 in the name of the noble Lord, ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1317 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the amendments only allow the Government to ensure it; they do not make provision for it ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment No. 71 is an amendment to government Amendment No. 70. I listened with interest to the ...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 702 c1316 (Link to this contribution) I make it clear that we on these Benches are happy with the government amendments.
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1315 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, we shall get no further with this tonight. The object of the exercise is to test any scheme...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1315-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 69: 69: Clause 22, page 10, line 18, leave out ““age of 65”” and insert ““appr...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1314-5 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may try to describe what ““broadly equivalent”” might mean. We use the term to ensure that...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1314 (Link to this contribution) I flatter myself that I am a fairly mild man, because nobody else will. However, even my patience sn...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1313-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his amendment, which I understand is a probing one. Clause 21 sets out th...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1314 (Link to this contribution) These debates are starting to become rather repetitive. It is quite extraordinary how little detail ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1314 (Link to this contribution) I am talking about assistance in determining that they have met the test scheme standard. Broad equi...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1312-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 67: 67: Clause 21, page 9, line 45, leave out subsection (3) The noble Lord s...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1319 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has just said that he does not like the idea of regulations.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1319 (Link to this contribution) In relation to how foreign schemes fit in, a foreign scheme, or one not administered in the UK or re...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1320 (Link to this contribution) The letter count today is surely mounting quite significantly. I shall look forward to the letter wi...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1319 (Link to this contribution) I shall spare noble Lords. It is because of complexity. Hybrid schemes are likely to develop further...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1320 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 79 to 80A: 79: Clause 25, page 11, line 12, after ““jobholder”” insert ““und...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1320 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 73 and 74: 73: Clause 23, page 10, line 29, at end insert ““, subject to any...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1320 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 76 and 77: 76: Clause 25, page 11, line 2, leave out ““A personal pension”” ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1327-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 83: 83: Before Clause 28, insert the following new Clause— ““Effect of freezin...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1317 (Link to this contribution) We believe that the two pension ages should be in step. Again, at this time of night, it is extremel...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 702 c1319 (Link to this contribution) I think the noble Lord is confusing two things. I was trying to explain the starting proposition for...
Lord Skelmersdale | 702 c1319 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister said, Amendment No. 75, which is tabled in my name, is grouped with Amendments Nos. ...
Subjects
Age Employees' contributions Workplace pensions Pensions Personal pensions State retirement pensions Small businesses Occupational money purchase schemes National employment savings trust scheme
Legislation
Pensions Bill 2007-08
Link
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