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Legislative debate on Wednesday, 1 April 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Robert Neill. The answering member was John Healey.

Rating and Valuation (S.I., 2009, No. 204)

Non-Domestic Rating (Collection and Enforcement) (Local Lists) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2009. (SI 2009/204). Debate on a motion to revoke. Negatived on division (3 votes to 289).

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
490 c986-1012 
Session
2008-09
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 490 c1012 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the Government had the hon. Gentleman in mind.
Speaker | 490 c1009 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No lobby.
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Robert Neill | 490 c986-7 (Link to this contribution) If the right hon. Gentleman is patient and listens to me, he will be enlightened in due course. It w...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 490 c986 (Link to this contribution) Some of us on this side of the House have to make up our minds about what to do, so it would be help...
Robert Neill | 490 c986 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the Non-Domestic Rating (Collection and Enforcement) (Local Lists) (Amendment) (...
Robert Neill | 490 c987 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right. I know that we make common cause on this issue. A number of Labou...
Julia Goldsworthy | 490 c987 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that is was a double insult to those businesses when they found out no...
Robert Neill | 490 c987 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. As the businesses were given no notification, they were not able...
Robert Syms | 490 c987 (Link to this contribution) This does not only affect large companies. Some quite small companies in the ports, such as those pr...
Robert Neill | 490 c989 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Businesses are caught in an impossible dilemma. They cannot pay ...
Robert Neill | 490 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend goes absolutely to the point, as he invariably does on these matters. The regul...
Austin Mitchell | 490 c988 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman got the figure on backdated payments for Freshney Cargo Services wrong: it is not...
Robert Neill | 490 c988 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right; he makes a powerful point. I know that he has taken an inter...
Tim Loughton | 490 c989 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful point, and many of us who have harbours and ports in our constituenc...
Robert Neill | 490 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) We will try terribly hard to put the hon. Gentleman out of his misery. He is right—I left out the de...
Robert Neill | 490 c988 (Link to this contribution) I see that the right hon. Gentleman, who likes to hear a tale unfold, is following me closely. I am ...
Ian Cawsey | 490 c988 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has said a lot about the retrospective element that is being applied to these com...
John Healey | 490 c993 (Link to this contribution) I will give way first to the hon. Member for Canterbury (Mr. Brazier), then to my hon. Friend the Me...
John Healey | 490 c993 (Link to this contribution) There were three flaws in the way that the VOA conducted its ports review. First, it was clear befor...
Robert Neill | 490 c993 (Link to this contribution) Given that it was the right hon. Gentleman's Government who extended the period of prescription unti...
Louise Ellman | 490 c992 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that the ports businesses are in an unacceptable position, which ha...
John Healey | 490 c992 (Link to this contribution) I understand the concerns that have been raised and the pressure on the cash flows and margins of bu...
Austin Mitchell | 490 c991 (Link to this contribution) In other words, the hon. Gentleman is telling us that we must wait for businesses on the docks to go...
Robert Neill | 490 c991 (Link to this contribution) With respect, I do not think that the Opposition can answer for the inadequacies of the response of ...
Derek Twigg | 490 c990 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is trying to build up to a crescendo, but we have waited patiently...
Robert Neill | 490 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has to hang on for only a little bit longer, because we are nearly there. I will ...
John Healey | 490 c994 (Link to this contribution) In a way, this is not unique in the way in which the business rates system operates. We do our best ...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 490 c995 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is promising to take apart the Opposition's argument, and we shall obviously de...
John Healey | 490 c995 (Link to this contribution) These regulations and provisions are already in place, and 67 companies have agreed a schedule of pa...
John Healey | 490 c995 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has been sitting through the debate and he is very keen to intervene. I shall giv...
John Healey | 490 c994 (Link to this contribution) In every case that I have cited, it may have been the case that the business concerned could not hav...
John Healey | 490 c994 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right—unsurprisingly, because she champions her businesses and her cons...
Austin Mitchell | 490 c997 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
John Healey | 490 c997 (Link to this contribution) I will finish making this point, if I may, but then I will give way to my hon. Friend, because he ha...
Speaker | 490 c997 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sorry to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman, but it would be helpful if the debate could...
John Healey | 490 c997 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If we were to accept this principle and Parliament gave us those pow...
John Healey | 490 c995-6 (Link to this contribution) I am so glad that I gave way to the hon. Gentleman, because I was about to discuss the figures. I h...
John Howell | 490 c995 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his generosity and characteristic humour in allowing me to intervene on him...
John Healey | 490 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to continue, the real impact has been on businesses, with 605 ne...
John Healey | 490 c996 (Link to this contribution) As it happens, the rateable value of the port operator in Immingham has been cut by a third—from £17...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 490 c999 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the Minister did not feel compelled to allow me to intervene earlier, but does the h...
Julia Goldsworthy | 490 c999-1001 (Link to this contribution) There will be opportunities to right this wrong, but it seems that the Minister is unwilling to do s...
Julian Brazier | 490 c1001 (Link to this contribution) Crucially, those facts were not available to those businesses when many of them negotiated long-term...
John Healey | 490 c998-9 (Link to this contribution) I am coming to the end of my speech. The hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst had a fair crack of...
Austin Mitchell | 490 c998 (Link to this contribution) As we are throwing out all these rhetorical questions, will the Government answer a question? Why ar...
Ian Cawsey | 490 c998 (Link to this contribution) I know that my right hon. Friend is aware of a letter sent by Associated British Ports to companies ...
John Healey | 490 c998 (Link to this contribution) I have already dealt with that point. I have some sympathy with that perception of unfairness, but t...
Robert Neill | 490 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief, to give the Minister a little time. This has been a lively and well-informed debat...
John Healey | 490 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I want to respond in brief to some points. I fear that by being blunt I...
Shona McIsaac | 490 c1006-8 (Link to this contribution) It is with sadness and regret that I rise to speak in this debate. Like my hon. Friend the Member fo...
John Howell | 490 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I shall make three brief points. First, I find it almost unbelievable that the attitude of the Gover...
Ian Cawsey | 490 c1005-6 (Link to this contribution) I, too, will be brief, given the hour and the amount of time left in the debate. I want to concentra...
Julian Brazier | 490 c1004 (Link to this contribution) The Minister's speech was extraordinary. He spent the first half telling us, ““This is how other bus...
Louise Ellman | 490 c1003-4 (Link to this contribution) I have no doubt at all about the extent of the problems being experienced by many businesses in port...
Robert Syms | 490 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) Ports are vitally important, both for the people who work in them and for the community businesses t...
Austin Mitchell | 490 c1002 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief, but I must express my incredible disappointment with Conservative Opposition's pos...
Julia Goldsworthy | 490 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is exactly right. The problem is not that the facts were not available when those...
Christopher Chope | 490 c1012 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. You will have noticed that the last Division, which was totally un...
Lord Redwood | 490 c989 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that this is an issue for the Minister, who now has the opportunity to mov...
Shona McIsaac | 490 c994 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way and for the many, many meetings that he has had with Lab...
John Healey | 490 c992-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall explain shortly why I believe that the ports businesses are in not a unique, but a special p...
Julian Brazier | 490 c993-4 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that there were many examples in previous valuations where businesses outside port...
John Healey | 490 c998 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right: I have seen the letter, because he made sure that I would see it. I am sure...
Julia Goldsworthy | 490 c994 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the problem for those businesses was not their future liabilities or any obj...
Julia Goldsworthy | 490 c999 (Link to this contribution) It struck me while listening to the previous debate that, although the subject was a serious one, it...
Subjects
Business Arrears Payments Ports Rates and rating Business rates Valuation Office Agency
Legislation
Non-domestic Rating (Collection and Enforcement) (Local Lists) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2009
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