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Debate on bill on Monday, 8 March 2010, in the House of Lords.


Digital Economy Bill [HL]

Digital Economy Bill (HL). Lords report stage third day.


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Parliamentary proceeding
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718 c12-66 
Session
2009-10
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
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House of Lords chamber
Related items
Digital Economy Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Monday, 8 February 2010
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c66 (Link to this contribution) 190A: Clause 48, page 55, line 43, leave out "40(1) to" and insert "40(2), (3), (4) and" Amendment ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c61-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government are sympathetic to Amendment 168A, which is to allow rights holders to cont...
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Lord Lucas | 718 c61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a desirable direction to go in, and I hope that the Government will treat it with ...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c63 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful that the Minister has treated these amendments as probing, which indeed they...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) 173: Schedule 2, page 61, leave out lines 6 to 13 174: Schedule 2, page 61, line 15, leave out "su...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c63 (Link to this contribution) 169: Schedule 2, page 60, line 30, leave out "may by regulations require a licensing body" and inser...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c59-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my normal courtesies have deserted me. I omitted to thank the Minister for meeting us on A...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Bridgeman for returning to this important issue again. Our Co...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments in the names of the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman, and myself. T...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c59 (Link to this contribution) 168A: After Clause 42, insert the following new Clause— "Effect of electronic rights management info...
Lord Lucas | 718 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that reply. It seems to me that the Minister is coming from very much th...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c58 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government agree that copyright should not impair people’s ability to link to content ...
Earl of Erroll | 718 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment is essential, particularly in view of Amendment 112 which replaced the origi...
Lord Lucas | 718 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 168 suggests that we should take a position on the current dispute between publi...
Lord Lucas | 718 c56 (Link to this contribution) 168: After Clause 42, insert the following new Clause— "Protection of the right to link to publicly ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that very comprehensive and somewhat reassuring reply, although I shall com...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c52-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 42 allows for the authorisation of orphan works and extended licensing schemes. Thi...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c48 (Link to this contribution) 167: Clause 42, leave out Clause 42
Lord Howarth of Newport | 718 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, has just made some important points on behalf of photo...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c49-51 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now move back to the issue of orphan works under the first part of Clause 42. As I ment...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c46 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government are sympathetic to this amendment, which would allow bodies authorised to r...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c46 (Link to this contribution) This amendment is again intended to impose the same level of transparency on Section 116B as the Gov...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) 156: Clause 42, page 50, line 11, leave out from beginning to end of line 38 on page 51 and insert— ...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c46-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his helpful explanation and, in light of it, I beg leave to withd...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c46 (Link to this contribution) 155D: Clause 42, page 50, line 7, at end insert— "( ) The regulations must require all licensed bodi...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c52 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I say to the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, that it is not particularly constructive, which is ...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c45-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I agree with much of what he said and I look forwar...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c43 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Bridgeman raises important points, and I entirely agree with his amen...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c43-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 153A argues for orphan works schemes to be limited to licensing bodies, an issue...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c44 (Link to this contribution) I just say to the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, that we certainly did not intend to be disruptive in any...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) 154: Clause 42, page 49, line 27, leave out "may" and insert "must" 155: Clause 42, page 49, line ...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c45 (Link to this contribution) 155C: Clause 42, page 50, line 7, at end insert— "(2A) Before granting any licence in respect of wor...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c45 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have already had a useful debate with a gratifying number of government amendments abou...
Earl of Erroll | 718 c45 (Link to this contribution) I presume that publishing something under either creative commons, new public licence or something s...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 718 c24-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in welcoming this amendment and in supporting the remarks of my noble friend Lady Howe, I ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c25 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, congratulate the Minister on having introduced Amendment 145, in particular. At th...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c24 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, I thank the Minister for this group of amendments and ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c23 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 151 and 190A. I reiterate that the Government’s predomina...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c23-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome this amendment, which marks an acceptance by Government that there is a problem ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Obviously I am pleased that there is a slightly firme...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c22 (Link to this contribution) 145: Clause 40, page 46, line 22, at end insert— "(3A) After subsection (3) insert— "(4) The Secreta...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c21-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Committee I set out why Clause 38 is an important element of the Government's plans to ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c20 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness sits down, I sought to indicate in my reply that we took this issue very s...
Baroness Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury | 718 c20 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister again and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 143A withdrawn. Cl...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c20-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, In Committee we had a very useful debate on Clause 38 stand part which ranged widely acros...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c18-9 (Link to this contribution) Certainly the Government are listening carefully. This amendment is supported in many parts of the H...
Lord Fowler | 718 c19 (Link to this contribution) On a matter of pure information, is the noble Lord saying that the Government already have powers th...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c19 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am saying two things. Certainly, other parts of the Bill refer to the difficulties which...
Baroness Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury | 718 c19-20 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. He mentioned the word "cautious". He is being much too cautious....
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c33-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I said when the amendment was discussed in Committee, the Government recognise and agre...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c30 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the support of the noble Lords, Lord Clement-Jones and Lord De Mauley, and everyon...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c30-1 (Link to this contribution) 149: After Clause 41, insert the following new Clause— "Duty to promote online safety (1) It shall b...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c30 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, I omitted to respond to a point raised by my nobl...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 718 c32-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment standing in the name of my noble friend and I commend to the House...
Earl of Erroll | 718 c33 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clauses 4 to 9 of the Bill are about sending a message, as is the amendment. At the moment...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c31-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for being on my feet yet again. Amendment 149 requires internet service provid...
Lord Maxton | 718 c28 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak briefly. I am slightly confused both by the last debate and by this one. T...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply and the detailed way in which he has dealt with the adv...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c25-6 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, it may not be the full loaf, but it is the real thing in terms of the Government's d...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c26 (Link to this contribution) 146: Clause 41, page 48, line 34, at end insert "or the video works authority for those video games ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c26-7 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 146 is in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones. I am pleased that since ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c28 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I signed my name to the amendment so cogently put forward by the noble Baroness, Lady Howe...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c28 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, our Amendment 148 in this group addresses much the same point as those of the noble Barone...
Baroness Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury | 718 c15 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by declaring an interest as an associate of an independent production company. The...
Baroness Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury | 718 c15 (Link to this contribution) 143A: After Clause 37, insert the following new Clause— "Regulation of television In paragraph 19(2)...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c14-5 (Link to this contribution) 141: Clause 35, page 42, line 14, at end insert— "( ) OFCOM may, if the requirements of subsections ...
Lord Puttnam | 718 c17 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment despite my position as deputy chairman of Channel 4, which in some...
Lord Dubs | 718 c16-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment and associate myself with the remarks made by the three noble Lord...
Lord Fowler | 718 c16 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendment and the words of both fellow members of the Communications C...
Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 718 c15-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Bonham-Carter, and I hope that her lucky run from earli...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c17 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my support. Irrespective of whether the Competition Commission does not know enough ...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c12 (Link to this contribution) 139: Clause 30, page 36, line 35, at end insert ", and ( ) the establishment of a combined electroni...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c13 (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, on this amendment. This seems to be an essential part of t...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c12 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am moving this amendment to pick up on a point that the Government made earlier in the B...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c13-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords who have contributed to this short debate. The Government...
Lord Fowler | 718 c13 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, strongly support what my noble friend has proposed. It is an important step in pre...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c14 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Fowler and to the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, fo...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c14 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will also speak to the other government amendments in this group, which are intended to ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c14 (Link to this contribution) 140: Clause 35, page 42, line 14, leave out "local"
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c35-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. Its purpose is to empower consumers by enabling them to make info...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c35 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have tabled Amendment 150 simply to seek clarification of a response that the Minister ...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c35 (Link to this contribution) 150: Schedule 1, page 58, line 25, after "(3)" insert "and insert— "(2) Regulations under this secti...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c37 (Link to this contribution) 151: Schedule 1, page 60, line 13, after "section" insert "2," Amendment 151 agreed. Clause 42 : E...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c37 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, for her support and for the points that she made in...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c36-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and the noble Baroness for their contributions to the deba...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c37 (Link to this contribution) 152: Clause 42, page 49, line 23, after "the" insert "missing"
Lord Howarth of Newport | 718 c38-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would be grateful if my noble friend could give clarification on a couple of questions. ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c39 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I simply wanted to respond early to the Minister’s amendments. Although I am going to be l...
Baroness Buscombe | 718 c39 (Link to this contribution) I very much hope that the Minister will not weaken his resolve over the terminology. "Diligent", as ...
Lord Howie of Troon | 718 c39 (Link to this contribution) I have spoken only once before in this lengthy debate and that was on Clause 42, on the definition o...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c39-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking the Minister for bringing forward these amendments. H...
Lord Puttnam | 718 c39 (Link to this contribution) This is an area to which I have given a huge amount of thought and put in a lot of work over the pas...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c40 (Link to this contribution) I thank noble Lords for their contributions. On the comments of my noble friend Lord Howarth about t...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c40 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am coming to that; I realise that now. I hope that the House will feel able to support the go...
Lord Puttnam | 718 c40-1 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my noble friend the Minister would like to use the authority granted him by the Dispatch Box...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 718 c42-3 (Link to this contribution) I will make some brief comments and raise some questions about the amendments in this group. I will ...
Baroness Buscombe | 718 c42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support my noble friend’s amendment, to which I have added my name. I al...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will reserve most of my comments on Clause 42 for the debate on Amendment 167. I put my ...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c41-2 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House I shall speak also to Amendment 172A. These amendments centre around my...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c41 (Link to this contribution) 153: Clause 42, page 49, line 23, at end insert— "(1A) Where the missing copyright owner is not the ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c41 (Link to this contribution) I can certainly give that assurance because I believe that that is the intention of the House. Amen...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c45 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we welcome the spirit of this amendment. One question that we must ask rights holders in o...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 718 c34-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for what he has said and, indeed, I should particularly like to thank...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c17-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we, likewise, support Amendment 143A. There is now widespread acknowledgement that the con...
Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c41 (Link to this contribution) 153A: Clause 42, page 49, line 23, at end insert— "( ) Regulations under subsection (1) shall only p...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c64-6 (Link to this contribution) 178: Schedule 2, page 61, line 27, after "116B," insert— "(ba) any of subsections (4) to (6) of sect...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c37-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to propose this super-group of government amendments, aimed at addressing noble Lor...
Lord De Mauley | 718 c21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in our previous debate on this clause, the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, optimistically ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c20 (Link to this contribution) 144: Clause 38, leave out Clause 38
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c28-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have participated in this important debate, and parti...
Subjects
Children Broadcasting Competition Copyright Digital broadcasting Competition Commission Communication Internet Protection Photographs Pornography Mobile phones Mergers Ofcom Radio frequencies Radio Local broadcasting Performing arts Registration Young people Regulation Safety Video games Television channels Channel Three Classification schemes Internet service providers Television licences
Legislation
Digital Economy Bill (HL) 2009-10
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