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Debate on bill on Thursday, 8 September 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Harper.

Fixed-term Parliaments Bill

Fixed-term Parliaments Bill. Consideration of Lords message relating to Lords amendments 1, 2 and 9, proposing amendment (a) in lieu. Agreed on division (253 votes to 190).

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
532 c581-99 
Session
2010-12
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Peter Bone | 532 c583 (Link to this contribution) Listening to the Minister's opening remarks, I entirely agreed with him that there was no need for a...
Lord Harper | 532 c582-3 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that it did. I said that it had misgivings about the fact that there had been no oppor...
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Lord Harper | 532 c581-2 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House insists on its disagreement with the Lords in their amendments 1, 2 a...
Mark Durkan | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) So far, the Minister has focused on the fixed-term Parliament aspect of the Bill, but there is also ...
Lord Harper | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend thinks back to our earlier debates on the Bill and its effects, he will remember t...
Andrew Percy | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister knows, I thought the Bill was unnecessary and said so on Second Reading, but I canno...
Lord Harper | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) This arrangement would also allow time after the general election for the new Parliament to meet. It...
Speaker | 532 c584-5 (Link to this contribution) Order. This is not a private conversation. Members' comments need to be recorded and reported in Han...
Lord Harper | 532 c584 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with what the hon. Gentleman says from a sedentary position. He is reading too much into ...
Lord Harper | 532 c584 (Link to this contribution) We chose 2020 in order to ensure that the committee has had the experience of a full fixed term. Aft...
Thomas Docherty | 532 c584 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister clarify three points? First, why has he chosen 1 June 2020 as the start date, rath...
Lord Harper | 532 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) The amendment in lieu does not concern a sunset provision. If the committee that was set up, having ...
Chris Bryant | 532 c587 (Link to this contribution) No, we would now be in the mop-up session, and during that time there would be many other Bills that...
Alan Reid | 532 c586 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is wrong. We were both elected in 2001, so I am sure he will recall that in both ...
Chris Bryant | 532 c587 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman's support for my argument. The other process point that I wish...
Peter Bone | 532 c587 (Link to this contribution) The shadow Minister of course makes a fair point, but to balance it we have to give credit to the Go...
Andrew Percy | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister also look at the question of the term of the Parliament, which we have discussed b...
Lord Harper | 532 c585 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman took part in many debates on the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies B...
Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 532 c586 (Link to this contribution) Would the Minister change his mind on that point if the other place were partially or fully elected?...
Lord Harper | 532 c586 (Link to this contribution) That is a perfectly good question. The Bill sets up arrangements for a review of its operation in ge...
Chris Bryant | 532 c586 (Link to this contribution) Let me raise a few protest points at the outset. First, the Bill started its lengthy process on 22 J...
Lord Harper | 532 c586 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is leaping far ahead. We are considering this Bill now. Meanwhile, our refo...
Chris Bryant | 532 c591 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a fine, tall gentleman, so I give way to him.
Chris Bryant | 532 c590-1 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I was noting the acceleration. The coalition has a commitment in its agreement that it will kee...
Andrew Percy | 532 c588 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's argument about joint candidates falls down because he needs to be able to find ...
Chris Bryant | 532 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to abolish the Government Whips Office, but I am very fond of my Whips Office. It is alwa...
Peter Bone | 532 c587 (Link to this contribution) The shadow Minister makes a good point about the Whips Office. Will he be here tomorrow to support m...
Peter Bone | 532 c590 (Link to this contribution) I was just reflecting on the numbers. Are there not about 800 peers and 600-odd Members of this Hous...
Chris Bryant | 532 c590 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will give way to the hon. and gentlemanly Gentleman.
Chris Bryant | 532 c588-90 (Link to this contribution) I believe that earlier this week the Prime Minister described himself as a, ““Pragmatic liberal cons...
Chris Bryant | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister be straight and guarantee that he will ensure that there is consultation with the ...
Lord Harper | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman's point on that and thank him for making it. Given the nature of the matte...
Thomas Docherty | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give a guarantee that he will consult the First Minister and the Deputy First Mini...
Lord Harper | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) I have only a few minutes and I am trying to deal with the points that hon. Members have raised.
Lord Harper | 532 c596 (Link to this contribution) On this Committee, the Prime Minister will of course be able to consult others. The operation of thi...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 532 c591 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. While he is urging their lordships to stand...
Alan Reid | 532 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) Surely, the Bill removes the uncertainty that would otherwise have applied, because without it not o...
Thomas Docherty | 532 c592 (Link to this contribution) May I begin by asking the Minister to answer the third question I posed to him? In some ways, it is ...
Alan Reid | 532 c592 (Link to this contribution) The Lords amendment we are debating requires the Bill's provisions to be renewed if they are to be u...
Chris Bryant | 532 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, although I am surprised he is only taking us back to 1911. H...
Chris Bryant | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that we should clearly take it as read that the Prime Minister would engage in con...
Lord Harper | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) I have just said that that would take place—the consensus on the Committee's terms of reference, as ...
Thomas Docherty | 532 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) I do not share the hon. Gentleman's optimism about the coalition holding together successfully for t...
Lord Harper | 532 c594 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker, let me deal with the concerns that have been rais...
Mark Durkan | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) May I take the Minister back to the points about consultation that may be involved when the Committe...
Chris Bryant | 532 c582 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister was not going to suggest that the Constitution Committee supported the B...
Lord Harper | 532 c595 (Link to this contribution) With respect, we are debating the motion. The hon. Gentleman and I can have a conversation about the...
Subjects
Elections Fixed-term parliaments Dissolution Sunset clauses
Legislation
Fixed-term Parliaments Bill 2010-12
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