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Adjournment debate on Thursday, 22 March 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Graham Stuart. The answering member was Tim Loughton.

Services for Young People

Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on services for young people.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
542 c263-310WH 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Education
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
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Proceeding contributions
Graham Stuart | 542 c310WH (Link to this contribution) I say ““occasional””, but we are working together, and the Minister is committed. One of the best th...
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Tim Loughton | 542 c306WH (Link to this contribution) I will, but my hon. Friend is eating into his time for a right of reply, and I have not even started...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c305-6WH (Link to this contribution) The list of names that the Minister read sounded strangely familiar, because those organisations gav...
Tim Loughton | 542 c306WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady ignores the fact that a host of youth organisations has come forward to provide nation...
Graham Stuart | 542 c305WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister is wrestling with his understanding of what the Select Committee is for. The purpose of...
Tim Loughton | 542 c305WH (Link to this contribution) The Committee conducted an inquiry into the provision of services beyond the school/college day for ...
Tim Loughton | 542 c304-5WH (Link to this contribution) I have said that I respect the Select Committee and that I encourage it to study youth services and ...
Pat Glass | 542 c304WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister would like to see those things, but he is misrepresenting the purpose of...
Tim Loughton | 542 c303-4WH (Link to this contribution) We could not possibly come out with a total figure for complete roll-out because we have not remotel...
Graham Stuart | 542 c303WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for resiling from his earlier remarks about the disproportionate atten...
Tim Loughton | 542 c309WH (Link to this contribution) Under the local authority returns, to which my hon. Friend is privy and which I thought he had used,...
Graham Stuart | 542 c309WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. The figure that we used was provided by Select Committee staff from G...
Tim Loughton | 542 c309WH (Link to this contribution) I have quoted the figure for 2009-10, which was before the early intervention grant existed.
Graham Stuart | 542 c309-10WH (Link to this contribution) The Committee will look forward to pursuing that further with the Minister, but if it is a correctio...
Tessa Munt | 542 c307WH (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister also cognisant of the fact that people who have mental health problems when they are...
Tim Loughton | 542 c306-7WH (Link to this contribution) That is a strange thing for the chief executive of the Scout Association to say, because it relies o...
Graham Stuart | 542 c308-9WH (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, it is a pleasure to serve—if one serves in this Chamber—and to debate u...
Graham Stuart | 542 c306WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister is generous in giving way, but I am still at a slight loss as to why he is so hostile. ...
Tessa Munt | 542 c289-91WH (Link to this contribution) I have so much to say, but I will make just a few points. I want to clarify one or two things and dr...
Pat Glass | 542 c289WH (Link to this contribution) My greatest fear is that we are creating for ourselves and our young people a further legacy of long...
Tim Loughton | 542 c295-7WH (Link to this contribution) We have had an interesting and, indeed, rather different debate this afternoon, and I congratulate t...
Karen Buck | 542 c294-5WH (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister misses my point. I do not dispute that the scheme has the potential to be ...
Tim Loughton | 542 c293-4WH (Link to this contribution) I am rather curious about what the hon. Lady says. She says that only a third of the participants in...
Graham Stuart | 542 c288WH (Link to this contribution) The East Riding of Yorkshire was, for a long time, the fourth lowest funded authority in the country...
Pat Glass | 542 c288-9WH (Link to this contribution) The beauty of the education funding formula—it is complex and if we tweak one end of it we cause a h...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c298WH (Link to this contribution) Although the Minister is absolutely right not to be complacent about young people's involvement, the...
Tim Loughton | 542 c298WH (Link to this contribution) Young people would tell the hon. Lady—she did not answer my earlier question about whether she had m...
Graham Stuart | 542 c301-2WH (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell us how he would streamline that, because I am sure that if we talked to Minis...
Tim Loughton | 542 c298-301WH (Link to this contribution) We could have a debate about EMA—indeed, I have been part of such debates—but it is not part of the ...
Graham Stuart | 542 c302WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that answer, which addressed inspection, but perhaps not accountability. I know th...
Tim Loughton | 542 c302WH (Link to this contribution) The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office, my hon. Friend for Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner (Mr Hu...
Tim Loughton | 542 c302-3WH (Link to this contribution) I think that the sum of the bureaucracy around small charities in particular is already being addres...
Graham Stuart | 542 c297WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister is spending a disproportionately inordinate amount of time on something that is not cen...
Tim Loughton | 542 c297WH (Link to this contribution) My point holds clear. The fact that there was the online forum and other people not on the Committee...
Karen Buck | 542 c297-8WH (Link to this contribution) I do not want to enter too much into a private quarrel, but surely the fact is that Positive for You...
Pat Glass | 542 c287WH (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give way and to challenge you afterwards on whatever you have to say.
Pat Glass | 542 c284-5WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. In my constituency at the moment, 12 young people are chasing every vacancy. However, I wan...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c283-4WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to place the issue in the wider context. Does she agree that when youth unem...
Pat Glass | 542 c287-8WH (Link to this contribution) Sorry, Mr Betts. I am discussing services for young people, and EMA and its abolition are as much a ...
Pat Glass | 542 c287WH (Link to this contribution) Given the speech that you just made, I find it difficult that you are asking me to justify—
Neil Carmichael | 542 c287WH (Link to this contribution) I was going to say what a great speech the hon. Lady was making. I was just wondering where EMA and ...
Pat Glass | 542 c288WH (Link to this contribution) As an education funding geek, I have an answer for that. There was an element for small schools. For...
Graham Stuart | 542 c280-1WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. It is important when considering statutory services, which have an importan...
Speaker | 542 c281WH (Link to this contribution) Order. Can we get rid of references to individual places?
Neil Carmichael | 542 c281WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for East Hampshire (Damian Hinds) is wondering whether he can read out a l...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c281WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Beverley and Holderness (Mr Stuart) is absolutely right, and his point...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c281-2WH (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Robertson. Your point is absolutely right, but it shows that we can think of more exam...
Speaker | 542 c281WH (Link to this contribution) Order. We are talking about the Select Committee report, and although it may be nice to mention ever...
Graham Stuart | 542 c283WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is very fair-minded and will want to recognise the fact that mass youth unemployment h...
Pat Glass | 542 c283WH (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman's point. Youth unemployment was not invented by the current Government, bu...
Tessa Munt | 542 c280WH (Link to this contribution) I agree broadly with my hon. Friend, but in my constituency in rural Somerset, one difficulty is acu...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c280WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that comment. She is absolutely right that people must be able to get to ...
Graham Stuart | 542 c279WH (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to applaud my hon. Friend for his courage in acknowledging that the evidence was all o...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c279-80WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful. I am not entirely sure whether I can describe that as a compliment to my position, bu...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c278-9WH (Link to this contribution) More than half; that is fantastic. We work well as a team and are very effective, coming up with som...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c275-8WH (Link to this contribution) I take the point that those youth workers should have been working closely with the voluntary sector...
Neil Carmichael | 542 c278WH (Link to this contribution) I apologise for arriving late for this debate [Interruption.] It was outrageous. We should always ar...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c273-5WH (Link to this contribution) I am acutely aware that in this place we often talk about young people, but we do not often talk to ...
Graham Stuart | 542 c275WH (Link to this contribution) There are positives from having a more big-society approach to youth services. I was speaking to a y...
Graham Stuart | 542 c270WH (Link to this contribution) Yes. Having served as a Minister, the hon. Lady will know that we can be as positive as we like for ...
Tim Loughton | 542 c270WH (Link to this contribution) By the Committee Chair's own token, does he therefore think that it was helpful, in trying to create...
Graham Stuart | 542 c270-2WH (Link to this contribution) Mr Robertson will recognise, even if the Minister does not, that it is relevant to mention that a pr...
Lisa Nandy | 542 c272-3WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that we are having the debate today and giving a bit more thought to youth services in...
Graham Stuart | 542 c267-9WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister's point was well made. We need to get everybody—in my example, from Birmingham city cou...
Graham Stuart | 542 c269-70WH (Link to this contribution) I was reflecting on those words even as I read them, but their implications are clear. If there is n...
Karen Buck | 542 c270WH (Link to this contribution) Mr Robertson, I wonder whether it is appropriate—I know it is not normally done—to welcome the young...
Speaker | 542 c267WH (Link to this contribution) Can we keep interventions to intervention length, rather than speech length?
Speaker | 542 c273WH (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Lady is debating in the Chamber.
Graham Stuart | 542 c265-6WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that question. As he has rightly said, we considered the issue. ...
Damian Hinds | 542 c266WH (Link to this contribution) I promise to be quiet after this brief intervention. Does my hon. Friend agree that what comes up ti...
Graham Stuart | 542 c265WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. The hon. Member for Nottingham North is also right to not only emphasise th...
Damian Hinds | 542 c265WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for being so generous in giving way early in his speech. He may inte...
Graham Stuart | 542 c266-7WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Minister, and that is exciting and interesting. My note of caution is that there mu...
Karen Buck | 542 c267WH (Link to this contribution) While we are on this interesting issue, may I encourage the hon. Gentleman in his caution? Although ...
Graham Stuart | 542 c266WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. As long as there is accountability and people are driven by deli...
Graham Stuart | 542 c267WH (Link to this contribution) I think I agree with the hon. Lady. One of the criticisms we have made of the sector is the need, co...
Damian Hinds | 542 c265WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate on the Committee's report. Does he a...
Tim Loughton | 542 c307-8WH (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend's point. I had better quickly mention the hon. Member for Nort...
Karen Buck | 542 c291-3WH (Link to this contribution) Thank you very much, Mr Betts, for calling me to speak. I congratulate the Education Committee on i...
Speaker | 542 c287WH (Link to this contribution) Order. May I say to the hon. Lady that I am not asking for anything?
Tessa Munt | 542 c288WH (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Lady like to comment on the fact that a large number of schools are rural and very sm...
Damian Hinds | 542 c281WH (Link to this contribution) Before concluding his remarks, perhaps my hon. Friend will touch on the provision made by what these...
Pat Glass | 542 c282-3WH (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely sure how to follow that last speech, but I will definitely get a copy of Hansard t...
Damian Hinds | 542 c269WH (Link to this contribution) I suppose that we get used to such e-mails, but does not my hon. Friend accept that it is a statemen...
Tim Loughton | 542 c266WH (Link to this contribution) May I help my hon. Friend on this subject? Social impact bonds and payment by results are an importa...
Tim Loughton | 542 c267WH (Link to this contribution) At the risk of holding a third-party debate through the Chair of the Select Committee, may I say tha...
Graham Stuart | 542 c263-5WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to lead the debate under your august chairmanship, Mr Robertson. I am delighted to ...
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Finance Training Young people Voluntary work Youth services Cuts National Citizen Service Trust
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