Opposition day on Wednesday, 25 October 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Andrew Gwynne and Baroness Keeley. The answering members were Marcus Jones and Jackie Doyle-Price.

Social Care

Third opposition day debate (part one). Agreed to on question.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 630 cc312-358
Session: 2017-19
Department: Department of Health; Department for Communities and Local Government
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Related items: Adult social care: a pre-Budget report. Communities and Local Government Committee eighth report with formal minutes.
Tuesday, 28 February 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons; Adult social care. Communities and Local Government Committee ninth report with formal minutes.
Monday, 27 March 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons; Opposition Day Debate: Social Care
Friday, 20 October 2017
Research briefings; Social Care
Thursday, 7 December 2017
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions: Baroness Keeley | 630 c312 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That this House notes the Conservative Party’s manifesto commitment to a fun...; Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c312 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is raising a very important issue, which is leading to a lot of suffering among el...; Baroness Keeley | 630 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will talk about how the Labour party will take forward proposals on the future of social care. ...; Kevin Hollinrake | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady refers to unpaid carers. Labour’s motion references the Communities and Local Gover...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)
I will come on later to discuss how we should proceed and whether we should proceed on a cross-pa...; Lord Harper | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the hon. Lady’s tone in this debate. It is very valuable. I know that she has taken an ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)
We will come on to that. If the right hon. Gentleman wants to get into the mess that his party ma...; Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend refers again to local authority care homes. In my constituency, three superb local...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)
It is very important that we bear in mind that the 1.45 million workforce in care will have been ...; Kate Green | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend knows, in my constituency, which neighbours hers, we have a real problem in rec...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely the case. In fact, in a recent meeting with Unison, I was told that, in our ar...; Huw Merriman | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady talks about a squeeze in funding. On that basis, does she agree that it would be ri...; Baroness Keeley | 630 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman. That is one of the reasons why his party’s dementia t...; Jack Dromey | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)
At last, the Government and Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs have acknowledged that care workers...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree, and it was helpful of my hon. Friend to make that point. The sleep-ins issue ...; Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)
I do apologise for intervening so often. Does my hon. Friend agree, as my hon. Friend the Member ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 cc316-7 (Link to this contribution)
As I said earlier, I will come to our proposals; I do not want to jump around in my speech too mu...; Huw Merriman | 630 c317 (Link to this contribution)
The social care and hospital budgets have been merged in East Sussex, where my constituency is. A...; Baroness Keeley | 630 cc317-8 (Link to this contribution)
My local authority has the most advanced example of an integrated care organisation in the countr...; Kate Green | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad my hon. Friend has mentioned younger adults. Does she agree that investing in the care ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)
Very much so. I thank my hon. Friend for making that point. It is concerning that planned consult...; Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)
I am always very impressed by the hon. Lady’s knowledge in this area, but just to clarify, did I ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)
I am obviously coming to the end of my speech, but I recommend that the hon. Gentleman, if he is ...; Baroness Maclean of Redditch | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?; Baroness Keeley | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am just going to finish.
Our motion asks for action to make sure the care sector gets...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to respond in this debate. It gives the Government an opportuni...; Jim McMahon | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)
Decreasing.; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc319-320 (Link to this contribution)
They all have the best of motivations in providing care, and we should celebrate the work they do...; Rebecca Pow | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for raising that issue, because we should not be so negative about this area...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend highlights just some of the many examples up and down the country, but we should n...; Jack Dromey | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is right to say that there are none so noble as those who care. However, may I press...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc320-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises an extremely important point that I am actively thinking about. He is a...; Judith Cummins | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)
At least 60% of those receiving social care in the home and 70% of those in care homes are people...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)
I invite the House to reflect on what the hon. Lady has said, because that is exactly the issue t...; Desmond Swayne | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)
Am I right in thinking that under current statute law, a cap of £72,500 will apply from the finan...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is indeed correct.
The ageing population presents one of our nation’s ...; Lord Harper | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)
In a spirit of cross-party consensus, may I add my support to the issue raised by the hon. Member...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc321-2 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more. I share my right hon. Friend’s support for the hon. Lady’s comments. Ther...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
It is very important that we have got to this point today, because very many organisations and in...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
There needs to be a separate work stream because it is connected to the desire to get more people...; Lord Harper | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Picking up the point about the work being separate but parallel, in thinking about how we are goi...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I agree with everything that my right hon. Friend says.
To reassure the hon. Member ...; Kate Green | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that we are spending time on this subject. The Minister will recognise, I am sure, that...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I could not put it better myself. Necessarily, the system will always focus more on those with th...; Tracy Brabin | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
I will take one more intervention, but I really do need to make progress.; Tracy Brabin | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way. Can she give me some advice for my constituent—a mother with...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
I am not very impressed by the tale that the hon. Lady describes, but I would like to look into i...; Kevin Hollinrake | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister refers to a number of options that the Government will consider. Will they also cons...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that we want to learn from examples in other countries. As I have said, the spirit of the...; Karin Smyth | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)
I must make some progress, because I have taken many interventions. I do apologise.
Adult s...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)
This is an important point. Our motion mentions the need to close the funding gap, which is not £...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)
I do not accept that. Let us recognise that this has been hard in the past. We have made money av...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister accept that the Government are providing less funding for social care than they...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I think it matters a great deal that we have made £9.25 billion available.; Lord Harper | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way on the funding issue?; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I need to make progress. I apologise to my right hon. Friend.
On delayed transfers of care,...; Liz Kendall | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I must make progress. Secondly, we put in place a comprehensive sector-led support offer. In earl...; Liz Kendall | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc325-6 (Link to this contribution)
I have limited time, and I really must get this improvement on the record.
The package also...; Liz Kendall | 630 c326 (Link to this contribution)
Leicestershire County Council fears that it could have £22 million removed from its budget becaus...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc326-7 (Link to this contribution)
I reject the suggestion that there will be any kind of fine. The £22 million that the hon. Lady t...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Is the Minister saying that revising an allocation is not a fine? When an allocation is revised—p...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry, but that is not the case. The money will be retained by local government, but we will...; Karin Smyth | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I have already taken too much time.
The measures I have set out have given our hard-working...; 630 c327 (Link to this contribution); Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before I call the hon. Member for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford), who is speaking for the ...; Philippa Whitford | 630 cc328-9 (Link to this contribution)
We have all seen the figures about everyone getting older. If we look over the lifetime of the NH...; Christine Jardine | 630 c329 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is painting quite a rosy picture of the social care system in Scotland, but does sh...; Philippa Whitford | 630 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)
I totally accept that the position is not entirely rosy. I said many times in the Chamber before ...; Sarah Wollaston | 630 cc330-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford) and I particularly ...; Liz Kendall | 630 cc331-2 (Link to this contribution)
It is a privilege to follow the Chair of the Health Committee, and I shall pick up on some of the...; Maggie Throup | 630 cc332-3 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow my fellow east midlands MP, the hon. Member for Leicester West (Liz Ke...; Jo Platt | 630 cc333-4 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to speak in this important debate.
As I am...; James Morris | 630 cc334-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Leigh (Jo Platt).
I think that there is a co...; Thelma Walker | 630 cc335-6 (Link to this contribution)
I begin with these words:
“The moral test of government is how that government treats those...; Derek Thomas | 630 cc336-7 (Link to this contribution)
I concur with pretty much everything said this afternoon. As an MP who recently fought a marginal...; Gill Furniss | 630 cc337-9 (Link to this contribution)
Nearly every day, my office is introduced to a new case in which a constituent and his or her fam...; Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Order.
2.48 pm; Andrew Selous | 630 cc339-340 (Link to this contribution)
As part of my self-imposed induction into membership of the Health Committee, I undertook a tour ...; Mohammad Yasin | 630 cc340-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is an honour to follow my constituency neighbour, the hon. Member for South West Bedfordshire ...; Marcus Fysh | 630 cc341-2 (Link to this contribution)
Our ageing population is undoubtedly one of the challenges of our age, and I am proud of what we ...; Tracy Brabin | 630 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this most important debate. I would like to thank m...; 630 c343 (Link to this contribution); Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 c343 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am afraid that I am going to have to cut the time limit on Back-Bench speeches to three ...; Helen Whately | 630 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that all of us who have been out and about with care workers in our constituencies have...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c344 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?; Helen Whately | 630 c344 (Link to this contribution)
I am really sorry, but I cannot take any interventions. I have been asked not to.
Most sign...; Faisal Rashid | 630 cc344-5 (Link to this contribution)
Under the Conservative Government, social care is in crisis. That is clear to almost everyone in ...; Kelly Tolhurst | 630 cc345-6 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak in this debate on a subject that is vita...; James Frith | 630 c346 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to speak in this Opposition day debate, and I thank colleagues for bringing it t...; Huw Merriman | 630 cc346-7 (Link to this contribution)
East Sussex has the second-highest proportion of over 85-year-olds in the country, and that numbe...; Laura Smith | 630 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)
Social care has been pushed into a state of emergency. A report by the CQC in July found that one...; Vicky Ford | 630 cc348-9 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to speak on the extremely importan...; Mike Amesbury | 630 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)
The benchmark of a civil society is how it treats its elderly, its vulnerable and those who need ...; Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 c350 (Link to this contribution)
Order.
3.30 pm; Baroness Maclean of Redditch | 630 c350 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the contributions from Members on both sides of the House today in thi...; Preet Kaur Gill | 630 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)
We have heard that the Local Government Association has estimated that adult social care faces a ...; Kevin Hollinrake | 630 cc351-2 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Preet Kaur Gill), who made ...; Wendy Morton | 630 c352 (Link to this contribution)
As the Minister clearly set out at the start of her speech, it is right and proper that we recogn...; Christine Jardine | 630 cc352-3 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to speak in this important debate. With the 70th...; Andrew Gwynne | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)
We have had a good and full debate. I wish to thank the 25 Back-Bench colleagues who have contrib...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Andrew Gwynne | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)
Let me finish. I will let the hon. Lady in if she wants to apologise.
It is a play on words...; Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)
I need to remind the hon. Gentleman that the only money that we can spend is that that we collect...; Andrew Gwynne | 630 cc353-5 (Link to this contribution)
I pay tribute to councillors who are making very difficult decisions under very tightly constrain...; Marcus Jones | 630 cc355-6 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a wide-ranging and important debate on one of the most important social issues and ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c356 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Marcus Jones | 630 c356 (Link to this contribution)
I will in a moment, but I want to make a little more progress and mention some of the people who ...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c357 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister values care, would he comment on untrained members of the public being offered £1...; Marcus Jones | 630 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is important that we always have workers who are trained, and we are providing care in good-qu...; Baroness Keeley | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Again we see the Government refusing to vote on a moti...; Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I cannot hear what the hon. Lady at the Dispatch Box is saying, and she is speaking to me....; Baroness Keeley | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Again, we see the Government abstaining—refusing to vote on a mo...; Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady has taken this opportunity to make the points that she wishes to make, and the Hous...
Subjects: Disability Care homes Carers Costs Closures Devolution Finance NHS Pay Local government finance Older people Training Reform Social services Labour turnover
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Social Care

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