Debate on bill on Wednesday, 19 June 2019, in the House of Commons, led by Mel Stride. The answering member was Valerie Vaz.

Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill

Report stage. New clause 1 discussed, with other amendments, and withdrawn. Amendment 1 agreed to on division (211 to 132). Amendment 7 agreed to on division (203 to 117). Amendments made to schedule 1. Third reading. Queen's consent signified. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 662 cc267-314
Session: 2017-19
Department: Leader of the House of Commons
Legislative stage: Third reading; Report stage
Procedure: New clauses; Queen's consent
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Related items: Draft Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill Joint Committee report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 13 March 2019
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons; Government response to the Report of the Joint Committee on the Draft Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill
Tuesday, 7 May 2019
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons; Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill 2017-19
Wednesday, 8 May 2019
Bills
House of Commons; Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill 2017-19. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 20 June 2019
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Mark Tami | 662 c268 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 cc268-9 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment 1, in clause 2, page 2,...; Mark Tami | 662 c270 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to new clause 1 and amendment 6 on behalf of my hon. Friend the Member for Hackne...; Lord Redwood | 662 c270 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree that where work has to be done, it should be spread around the country. Is the r...; Mark Tami | 662 cc270-1 (Link to this contribution)
As someone who has been involved in this from day one, I would say that we have looked at this ve...; Lord Redwood | 662 c271 (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy that there should be proper audit and review, and I think the right spirit was st...; Neil Gray | 662 c271 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Gentleman suggesting that because the Elizabeth Tower works are going on while ...; Lord Redwood | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, when the works need to move on to parts of the Palace that MPs use more often and more...; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is being kind in giving way. To support my hon. Friend the Member for Ai...; Lord Redwood | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think it does at all, because I have also pointed out that there are a lot of roofing wo...; Mark Tami | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We need to keep to the Bill and the amendments. I know that a man of great stature like th...; Mark Tami | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
To reinforce your point, Mr Deputy Speaker, I was about to say that we have had these arguments f...; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
Hence why I am sure Sir John will now go back to where he wanted to be.; Lord Redwood | 662 c272 (Link to this contribution)
I am very willing to do so. As I say, I welcome the principle that where works are conducted, the...; Neil Gray | 662 c273 (Link to this contribution)
I will speak to amendment 4, which appears in my name and in those of colleagues not just in the ...; Lord Redwood | 662 c273 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman recall that some £400 million of common taxpayers’ money was spent on the...; Neil Gray | 662 c273 (Link to this contribution)
It is for the former Secretary of State for Wales to promote the idea of an English Parliament, n...; Jonathan Edwards | 662 c273 (Link to this contribution)
I applaud the hon. Gentleman on his amendment. I will be happy to support it if he presses it to ...; Neil Gray | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that point. He will be aware that I pushed that idea when I sat on the...; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
My colleague and good friend is making a powerful speech. In describing the raid on the Scottish ...; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Come on—let’s stick to what the debate is about.; Neil Gray | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
Mr Deputy Speaker, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable intervention.; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I am the judge of that, not you, Mr Gray. Come on!; Neil Gray | 662 c274 (Link to this contribution)
Returning to the London Olympics, at the time, 4,200 Scottish companies registered their interest...; Pete Wishart | 662 c275 (Link to this contribution)
I was there during the London Olympics and remember only too well the wrangling that went on beca...; Neil Gray | 662 c275 (Link to this contribution)
I totally agree, which is why I am pushing these amendments.; Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 662 c275 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making the case that there is too much capital expenditure in London and th...; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c275 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We have a debate on amendments and Members are meant to be speaking to those amendments. I...; Neil Gray | 662 cc275-6 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I have been referring to a relevant project, which was similar in s...; Tim Loughton | 662 c276 (Link to this contribution)
I will do the rather unusual job, Mr Deputy Speaker, of talking to my amendment, which is amendme...; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 662 c276 (Link to this contribution)
There are a lot of fossils around here.; Tim Loughton | 662 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)
There are certainly a lot of fossils on the Scottish National party Benches. [Laughter.]
2....; Lord Redwood | 662 c277 (Link to this contribution)
These are very important considerations and I am glad my hon. Friend is raising them. One of the ...; Tim Loughton | 662 c277 (Link to this contribution)
I will come on to that in a minute. It is said that all archaeology is destruction, because when ...; Caroline Spelman | 662 c277 (Link to this contribution)
I reassure my hon. Friend that at the pre-legislative scrutiny stage, which I had the privilege o...; Tim Loughton | 662 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend makes a very valid point. I had not considered the prospect of mummified chi...; Neil Gray | 662 c278 (Link to this contribution)
I have great sympathy with the hon. Gentleman’s amendment and I understand what he is trying to a...; Tim Loughton | 662 c278 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely do not accept that—the two are not mutually exclusive. The list of considerations th...; Lord Redwood | 662 c278 (Link to this contribution)
Again, an additional complication is that this is a complete Victorian rebuild of an earlier buil...; Tim Loughton | 662 c279 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is dealing with the really modern stuff—I will go back a bit further in a mi...; Neil Gray | 662 c279 (Link to this contribution)
In some ways, the hon. Gentleman is making the point that I referred to about the balance that wi...; Tim Loughton | 662 c280 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman does not know. Access might be provided through the cloisters if there were so...; Stewart Hosie | 662 c280 (Link to this contribution)
The explanatory notes are quite helpful. Page 3 states:
“Parliament has a clear role in app...; Tim Loughton | 662 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)
What is the downside of including the archaeological and historical significance of the building ...; Chris Bryant | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
We do not know that.; Tim Loughton | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
We do not know that for sure, and I defer to the hon. Gentleman’s expertise, but it is a good sto...; Chris Bryant | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
It may not be true.; Tim Loughton | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
—and we should have part of that story—; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
Order. It might be more helpful to the Chamber if the hon. Gentlemen had this discussion afterwar...; Tim Loughton | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman turned up to meetings of the all-party parliamentary archaeology group more...; Lindsay Hoyle | 662 c281 (Link to this contribution)
It has nothing to do with what we are discussing, or listening to, in respect of the Bill.; Tim Loughton | 662 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)
That table is part of the heritage of this place. It is thought that it may have been broken up b...; Chris Bryant | 662 c282 (Link to this contribution)
Centuries!; Tim Loughton | 662 c282 (Link to this contribution)
Quite.
I think that mine is a reasonable amendment. I think it is an oversight that it has ...; Edward Leigh | 662 c282 (Link to this contribution)
I do not disagree with anything that my hon. Friend the Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Ti...; Mark Tami | 662 c282 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that our ignoring the need for this work and putting it off f...; Edward Leigh | 662 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is a valid point and I think we all agree with it.
My hon. Friend the Member for East ...; Tim Loughton | 662 c283 (Link to this contribution)
I would have mentioned that. The Cloisters are rather interesting because of the bomb damage duri...; Edward Leigh | 662 cc283-4 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has done a service in flagging up these historical vignettes, because they are ext...; Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 662 c284 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what my right hon. Friend says about the Comptroller and Auditor General having access to ...; Edward Leigh | 662 cc284-5 (Link to this contribution)
Value for money is what the PAC and the NAO are about. That was a very good intervention.
I...; Lord Redwood | 662 c285 (Link to this contribution)
New clause 1 seems to imply, in answer to a question I was asking earlier, that the Comptroller a...; Edward Leigh | 662 c285 (Link to this contribution)
Yes; my right hon. Friend has made a worthwhile intervention, and perhaps I have been too unfair ...; Mark Tami | 662 c285 (Link to this contribution)
The intention is to avoid a cliff edge, because we could lose their experience at a crucial time....; Edward Leigh | 662 c285 (Link to this contribution)
I take some reassurance from that. I was trying to understand the amendment. I have no problem wi...; Kevin Foster | 662 c286 (Link to this contribution)
Just to clarify, the amendments cover only the external members, not the parliamentary members, s...; Edward Leigh | 662 c286 (Link to this contribution)
I do apologise. I am glad that I raised this matter, however, because that has reassured me that ...; Christian Matheson | 662 cc286-8 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to the amendments standing in my name on the Order Paper, and with your permissio...; David Drew | 662 c288 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to have signed amendment 6, the key part of which is the annual audit of companies. ...; Christian Matheson | 662 c288 (Link to this contribution)
As a trade union official during the construction of Wembley, I have mixed memories of the conduc...; Mark Prisk | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
The point I was trying to make in Committee was simply that, yes, this is a substantial investmen...; Christian Matheson | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right that this could be a bonus for the whole nation. That is covered by a...; Edward Leigh | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
This is an important point. Of course we must not tell the Comptroller and Auditor General what t...; Christian Matheson | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
As a distinguished former Chair of the Public Accounts Committee, the right hon. Gentleman is abl...; Lord Redwood | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
The project will also reveal part of our industrial history. When the building was first construc...; Christian Matheson | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for pointing that out; he is right. Perhaps the successor compan...; Chris Bryant | 662 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I hate to correct my hon. Friend, but I am going to anyway. Quite a lot of the work will not be d...; Christian Matheson | 662 c290 (Link to this contribution)
If I am going to be corrected, I would choose always to be corrected by my hon. Friend. The point...; Mark Tami | 662 c290 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Christian Matheson | 662 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my next-door neighbour from Alyn and Deeside.; Mark Tami | 662 c290 (Link to this contribution)
Before my hon. Friend moves on from procurement, the other point, particularly for smaller compan...; Christian Matheson | 662 cc290-1 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend from the other side of Boundary Lane in Chester is absolutely right. We have...; Chris Elmore | 662 c291 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend mentioned both Houses leading the way; in 2013, the Welsh Government introduced a ...; Christian Matheson | 662 c291 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to my hon. Friend for that illustration of how action of this kind can raise s...; Neil Gray | 662 c292 (Link to this contribution)
I commend the shadow Minister for tabling the amendment; we will of course support him in his end...; Christian Matheson | 662 c292 (Link to this contribution)
We did take a reputational hit on that contract, unfortunately. The hon. Gentleman says that this...; Baroness Debbonaire | 662 c292 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making an excellent point. Does he agree that the changes made to the wording o...; Christian Matheson | 662 cc292-3 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right, but what we have tried not to do is to be too prescriptive in...; Kevin Foster | 662 cc293-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to reply to the fantastic debate that we have had this afternoon. I thank all ho...; Chris Bryant | 662 c295 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy that the Minister is, as I understand it, supporting the amendment to which he is refe...; Kevin Foster | 662 cc295-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is always a joy to hear another expert on the history of this building.
We have some con...; Lord Redwood | 662 c296 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister remind the House of the latest estimate of the total cost of the whole project ...; Kevin Foster | 662 cc296-7 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention. To be clear, the Bill is about setting up the ...; Alex Sobel | 662 c297 (Link to this contribution)
The Government have just announced their net zero strategy. Will the work of the Delivery Authori...; Kevin Foster | 662 cc297-9 (Link to this contribution)
The Delivery Authority and Sponsor Body will be required to adhere to any legislation that has be...; Neil Gray | 662 c299 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister—well, I think I thank the Minister, who has just said he is not going to sup...; Kevin Foster | 662 c299 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his overall constructive intervention. The problem is where the am...; Stewart Hosie | 662 c299 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Kevin Foster | 662 c299 (Link to this contribution)
I will now move on—I am conscious of the time I have been going on for—to amendment 6, which is o...; Mark Tami | 662 c299 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to hear that the Minister will look at this proposal in the other place. All amendme...; Kevin Foster | 662 c300 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for the intention of his intervention. We have listened to Membe...; Mark Tami | 662 c300 (Link to this contribution)
On the basis of what the Minister has said, I will withdraw new clause 1. However, we will keep t...; Mel Stride | 662 cc306-8 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
I give my thanks to my fellow Devo...; Valerie Vaz | 662 cc308-9 (Link to this contribution)
I endorse the Leader of House’s full list of thanks to save the Official Reporters having to reco...; Jim Cunningham | 662 c309 (Link to this contribution)
Anybody with experience of local government will know that a contract has to include every item. ...; Valerie Vaz | 662 cc309-310 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. I know that my hon. Friend had a very good career as the leader of a local council, s...; Kevin Foster | 662 c310 (Link to this contribution)
In Walsall, perhaps?; Valerie Vaz | 662 c310 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I would love that. We have a great manufacturing tradition and there are many skills.; Mark Tami | 662 c310 (Link to this contribution)
Many of the skills that we will need are currently very limited, whether those of stonemasons or ...; Valerie Vaz | 662 c310 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend makes an important point. For me, having apprentices is a key consideration....; Andrea Leadsom | 662 cc310-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to see you in the Chair again, Madam Deputy Speaker, for my second speech in two d...; Neil Gray | 662 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)
I do not plan to detain the House for very long. You will be pleased to know, Madam Deputy Speake...; Meg Hillier | 662 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will not repeat the many thanks outlined by the right hon. Member for South Northamptonshire (A...
Subjects: Access Disclosure of information Contracts Accountability Audit Cost effectiveness Costs Conservation Construction Cultural heritage Functions Procurement Monitoring Palace of Westminster National Audit Office Vetting Repairs and maintenance Parliamentary Works Sponsor Body
Legislation: Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill 2017-19
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Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Bill

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