Committee of the Whole House (HL) on Monday, 25 January 2021, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Williams of Trafford and Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay.

Domestic Abuse Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 6 agreed to. Clause 7 under consideration.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 809 cc1395-1498
Session: 2019-21
Department: Home Office
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Procedure: Hybrid proceedings
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Domestic Abuse Bill 2019-21. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 7 July 2020
Bills
House of Lords; Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-first report.
Wednesday, 29 July 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill; Domestic Abuse Bill: Government Response.. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-eighth report
Wednesday, 4 November 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2021-0094
Wednesday, 3 February 2021
Deposited papers
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2021-0093
Wednesday, 3 February 2021
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1395 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 7, leave out paragraph (a) and ins...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 cc1395-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very conscious of being the first speaker at this stage of a Bill which has been s...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 809 c1396 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I refer to my interests as listed in the register. I listened with great interest to th...; Lord Paddick | 809 c1397 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I restate my interests in respect of this Bill. Noble...; Lord Rosser | 809 cc1397-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Bill currently defines domestic abuse as involving two people aged over 16. As has ...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 cc1398-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I join the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, in thanking all the many organisations that hav...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1399 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, of course I will withdraw my amendment at this point. However, before I beg leave to do...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1399 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, I had a very late request from the noble Lord,...; Lord Paddick | 809 cc1399-1400 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to make a general point: the point of speaking after the Minister is to challeng...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1400 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the noble Lord. Would the Minister like to come back on that particular point?
...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 c1400 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. We might have got the choreography slightly wrong, b...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1400 (Link to this contribution)
I now apologise to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. Would you like to complete your speech please...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1400 (Link to this contribution)
Before I do, I would like to say that I asked about this problem; I do not think my noble friend ...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1400 (Link to this contribution)
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 2. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...; Baroness Meyer | 809 cc1400-1 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Meyer
2: Clause 1, page 2, line 1, at end insert—
“( ) parent...; Baroness Meyer | 809 cc1401-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 2 and 4. I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Altmann and L...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 809 c1403 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, first, I want to apologise for my intervention on Amendment 1, which was quite inapprop...; Baroness Altmann | 809 cc1403-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the Government on introducing the Bill, which is designed to help victim...; Baroness Brinton | 809 cc1405-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I must apologise to your Lordships’ House for not being able to speak at Second Reading...; Earl of Lytton | 809 cc1407-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I added my name to these amendments because I feel strongly that we are not picking up ...; Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 809 cc1408-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendments put forward by the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, and others. She...; Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 809 c1409 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I warmly congratulate the Government on this Bill, particularly the recognition that ch...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1409 (Link to this contribution)
Lady Watkins, we have lost you—we can see you, but we cannot hear you. I think; Baroness Helic | 809 cc1410-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend Lady Meyer for her moving and courageous contribution based on her person...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 809 c1411 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think we may have the noble Baroness, Lady Watkins, back again. Perhaps she would lik...; Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 809 cc1411-3 (Link to this contribution)
Taking this into consideration, it is clear that these amendments are designed to ensure that, if...; Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 809 cc1413-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I take a moment to praise the powerful speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Helic, with w...; Lord Cormack | 809 cc1414-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I begin with an apology: I was unable to take part at Second Reading of this important ...; Lord Polak | 809 cc1415-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to follow my noble friend Lord Cormack, and I agree with him, but my overriding conc...; Lord Morrow | 809 cc1416-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, wish to commend the Minister on bringing this solid piece of legislation before...; Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 809 cc1417-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the Bill. The mental and physical damage of domestic abuse goes far beyond th...; Baroness Newlove | 809 cc1418-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak to Amendments 2 and 4 on parental alienation. As the former Victims’ Commission...; Baroness Fox of Buckley | 809 cc1419-1420 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sympathetic to the amendments, with some caveats. I am grateful to the noble Baron...; Baroness Stroud | 809 cc1420-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to speak in support of Amendments 2 and 4 tabled by my noble friend Lady Meyer. ...; Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 809 cc1421-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before I had the pleasure of meeting my noble friend Lady Meyer, I had read about the u...; Baroness Burt of Solihull | 809 cc1422-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is such a difficult issue. This afternoon we have heard strong and cogent argument...; Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 809 cc1423-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a solid piece of legislation and I hope that the process on which we are embark...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 cc1424-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, first, I pay tribute to my noble friend Lady Meyer, who is right to highlight the prote...; Baroness Henig | 809 c1426 (Link to this contribution)
I have received a request to speak after the Minister from the noble Lord, Lord McConnell of Glen...; Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 809 cc1426-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful for this opportunity to speak after the Minister. I did not submit m...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 c1427 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the noble Lord’s very balanced view. It is absolutely right that we do not undermine...; Baroness Meyer | 809 cc1427-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have made so many notes that I do not know where to start. I thank all those who spok...; Baroness Henig | 809 c1428 (Link to this contribution)
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 3. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...; Baroness Altmann | 809 c1428 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Altmann
3: Clause 1, page 2, line 1, at end insert—
“(f) unre...; Baroness Altmann | 809 cc1428-1432 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak also to my other amendments in this group—Amendments 5, 168, 169 and 170,...; Baroness Deech | 809 cc1432-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like the other stories lying behind the need for this Bill, this set of amendments reve...; Lord Polak | 809 cc1433-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 3, 5, 168, 169 and 170. I congratulate my noble friend Lady ...; Lord Mendelsohn | 809 cc1434-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak in support of Amendments 3, 5, 168, 169 and 170. I pay tribute to the nob...; Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 809 cc1437-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I first declare my interests as noted on the register; I think the relevant ones would ...; Lord Moylan | 809 cc1438-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise with some trepidation—and, I hope, an appropriate degree of sensitivity—to make ...; Baroness Wilcox of Newport | 809 c1439 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I draw attention to my interests as noted in the register. We very much want the Bill t...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 cc1439-1441 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken to these amendments, particularly my noble frie...; Baroness Altmann | 809 cc1441-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this brief debate, and I appreciate the exce...; Baroness Barker | 809 c1442 (Link to this contribution)
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 6. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 809 c1442 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Butler-Sloss
6: Clause 2, page 2, line 27, at end insert “or if one...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 809 cc1443-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 6, 8, 9 and 14, in my name, and support Amendment 10, in the...; Baroness Wilcox of Newport | 809 cc1444-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am speaking to Amendment 7, which would ensure that a carer of a person with disabili...; Baroness Altmann | 809 cc1445-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, on the way she introd...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 cc1446-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 13, in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Paddick, does not seek to bro...; Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 809 cc1447-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 10 is in my name and is supported by the noble and learned Baroness, Lady But...; Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 809 cc1448-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendments 7, 12 and 13 in this group, but today I am speaking to moving Amen...; Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 809 c1450 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, and her...; Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 809 cc1450-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, and to contribute for the fi...; Baroness Stroud | 809 cc1451-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to speak in support of Amendments 10 and 14 tabled by the noble and learned Baro...; Lord Morris of Aberavon | 809 cc1452-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak briefly on Amendments 6 and 7, which I support. Unfortunately, I was cut off fr...; Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 809 cc1453-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I suspect most members of the public think of the typical case of domestic abuse as bei...; Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 809 cc1455-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames. I find mysel...; Lord Blunkett | 809 cc1456-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is always a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Bourne. I find myself on t...; Lord Cormack | 809 cc1457-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to be able to follow the noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, for whom I have virt...; Lord Bates | 809 c1458 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we are having some difficulty connecting to the noble Lord, Lord Farmer, so the next sp...; Baroness Uddin | 809 cc1458-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a great privilege to take part in this debate. In her opening comments the noble ...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 c1459 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Baroness, but she is now referring to our debate on the previou...; Baroness Uddin | 809 c1459 (Link to this contribution)
Okay. I finish by saying that I am grateful for this consideration and hope that it may be extend...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 809 c1460 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendment 11, to which I have added my name. It is in the name of my...; Lord Rooker | 809 c1461 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, given the length of the debate and the time, I have junked most of what I intended to s...; Baroness Bertin | 809 cc1461-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is never easy to make a truly original point at the end of such a full and interesti...; Lord Paddick | 809 cc1462-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think the general test for this group of amendments is whether the perpetrator of abu...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 cc1463-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is the first opportunity I have had to speak on this Bill, so I hope that noble Lo...; Lord Bates | 809 c1467 (Link to this contribution)
I have received one request to speak after the Minister. I call the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee.<...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1467 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has given quite a long reply, which will bear reading. However, it sounded...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 c1468 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness is right: it was a lengthy response, which I hope set out why the wide range o...; Lord Bates | 809 c1468 (Link to this contribution)
Finally, I call the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, to respond to the debate on he...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 809 cc1468-9 (Link to this contribution)
I thank everybody who has played a part in this quite long debate. I have learned a great deal fr...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 c1469 (Link to this contribution)
I would be very happy, in deferring to the great experience of the noble and learned Baroness, La...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 809 c1469 (Link to this contribution)
We come now to the group beginning with Amendment 15. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...; Baroness Stroud | 809 c1469 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Stroud
15: Clause 3, page 3, line 9, at end insert “, including bab...; Baroness Stroud | 809 cc1469-1472 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a privilege to move Amendment 15 and to speak to Amendments 20, 172 and 179 in my...; Bishop of Gloucester | 809 c1470 (Link to this contribution)
Following the informative speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, on these amendments I will b...; Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 809 cc1470-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, for her introduction to the amendment and reaf...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 809 c1474 (Link to this contribution)
After our next speaker, the noble Lord, Lord Shinkwin, I will be calling the noble Baroness, Lady...; Lord Shinkwin | 809 c1474 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong of Hill Top. I am delight...; Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 809 cc1474-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Domestic Abuse Bill offers an opportunity to deliver substantial improvements to th...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 809 c1475 (Link to this contribution)
I call the next speaker, Lord Cormack. Ah, we have lost Lord Cormack, but we will try to bring hi...; Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 809 c1475 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am rather surprised to see that I am down to speak on Amendment 15. As far as I was a...; Baroness Newlove | 809 cc1475-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have had many speakers on this amendment from my noble friend Lady Stroud, whom I su...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 809 c1476 (Link to this contribution)
After our next speaker, the noble Lord, Lord Alton of Liverpool, I will be calling the noble Baro...; Lord Alton of Liverpool | 809 cc1476-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, for raising this crucial issue. There are four...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 809 c1477 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is an honour to follow my noble friend Lord Alton of Liverpool. In speaking in suppo...; Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 809 cc1477-1480 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very glad to support the amendments in the names of my noble friend Lady Stroud, t...; Baroness Burt of Solihull | 809 cc1480-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I acknowledge all the points that noble Lords have made on this group, and I totally ag...; Lord Rosser | 809 cc1481-2 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 15 would add an unborn child, from conception onwards, to the definition of a child und...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 809 cc1482-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, and particularly my noble frien...; Baroness Stroud | 809 cc1483-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who contributed to debating the amendment, particularly the nob...; Lord Bates | 809 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 16. I remind noble Lords that anyone ...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
16: Clause 4, page 3, line 18, leave out “appoint” and inser...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 cc1484-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with this group, which comprises Amendments 16 to 19, we turn to the role of the domest...; Lord Rooker | 809 c1485 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am unclear as to the precise status of the commissioner. I have one key question: is ...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 809 cc1486-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Hamwee and Lady Burt, for a series of ...; Baroness Newlove | 809 cc1487-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak to Amendments 16, 17, 18 and 19, which are of particular interest to me as the ...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 809 c1488 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to speak in support of the spirit of these amendments and the arguments so clear...; Baroness Burt of Solihull | 809 cc1488-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Hamwee has outlined, the aim of this group of amendments is to ...; Lord Rosser | 809 cc1489-1490 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 16 would ensure that the domestic abuse commissioner is appointed full-time. Amendment ...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 cc1490-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for setting out her reasons for tabling these amendments...; Baroness Hamwee | 809 c1492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have weighed in on this subject. Committee stage is the opportu...; Lord Bates | 809 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 21. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 809 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff
21: Clause 7, page 4, line 20, at end insert “, ...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 809 cc1493-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I have already, I declare my interest as chair of the Commission on Alcohol Harm. I ...; Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 809 cc1494-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to have the opportunity to speak in support of the noble Baroness, L...; Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 809 cc1495-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Committee has every reason to be grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, and t...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 809 cc1497-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad to have put my name to these amendments and I thank the noble Baroness, Lady ...; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 809 c1498 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am afraid that we will have to leave our deliberations there for this evening. I beg ...
Subjects: Disability Children Alcoholic drinks Carers Babies Education Domestic abuse Drugs Jews Divorce Guardianship Forced marriage Parents Public appointments Older people Misuse Staff Mental health Parental responsibility Pregnancy Offices Young people Religion Slavery Domestic Abuse Commissioner
Legislation: Divorce (Religious Marriages) Act 2002; Serious Crime Act 2015; Domestic Abuse Bill 2019-21
Link: View this Parliamentary proceeding on hansard.parliament.uk

Domestic Abuse Bill

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