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It is as my noble friend says. Lord Justice Jackson examined it and he came to the conclusion that the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, referred to. There is much more discussion to be had. I shall take my noble friend outside—as I once said in relation to one of the...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1585
House
House of Lords

All sides are agreed on two principles—access to justice must be maintained and undue cost must be squeezed out of civil litigation. The issue is what the best framework is for achieving these ends. Unlike with Part 1 of the Bill, public money is not directly involved in supporting the...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1572-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a relief to know that the Ministry of Justice, like New York, never sleeps. No doubt the opinion will be pored over and there will be further discussions before we get to Report. I invite my noble friend to do this now. He says that the...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1583-4
House
House of Lords

163: After Clause 53, insert the following new Clause— ““Third party litigation funding (1) A third party litigation funding agreement which satisfies all of the conditions applicable to it by virtue of this section shall not be unenforceable by reason only of it being a third party litigation funding agreement;...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1585-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in June 2007, the Civil Justice Council—a body headed by the Master of the Rolls and comprising members of the judiciary, the legal professions, civil servants and lay people with knowledge of consumer affairs, CABs, businesses and employers—published advice to the Lord Chancellor recommending the proper regulation of...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1586-9
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House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend for saying there will be synchronisation. The scales of justice have been tipped against defendants by this fourfold cost that they have been calling for over a period of time. The purpose of this Bill is to even the scales of justice up....

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1585
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. I accept that the opposing view, put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Davies, was certainly an arguable one. I have not suggested that third-party funding should be banned but that it should be subject to statutory...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1597
House
House of Lords

I apologise for wearying your Lordships once more. The amendment would ban the practice of third-party capture life insurance companies. Third-party capture is something with which many people, including many insured people, will not be familiar, but I have heard about it. Frankly, it is a nefarious practice. The amendment...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1598-9
House
House of Lords

164: After Clause 53, insert the following new Clause— ““Third party’s insurance company (1) A third party’s insurance company may not solicit a claimant who has a cause of action for personal injuries against its policy holder, to settle that cause of action where to the knowledge of the insurance...

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1597-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Part 2 of the Bill has its complexities, but all sides are agreed on two principles.

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1572
House
House of Lords

141: Clause 45, page 31, line 30, at end insert ““, (2A) or (2B)””

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1572
House
House of Lords

I am most grateful to my noble friend for interrupting me with one paragraph to go, which would have relieved your Lordships a great deal. The opinion has only recently been produced to me and the Bill team has had it only for a day, so I could hardly expect...

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1576
House
House of Lords

I am sure that my noble friend would agree, however, that protective costs orders are matters of discretion for the judge who hears an application, and that the threshold is extremely high. In his particular case, he obviously advanced matters of considerable public interest that were much wider than only...

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1578
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before the noble Lord does what he is going to do with his amendment, I just make one comment. He said that the Minister was on his own. When I was a young solicitor, I would have given my eye teeth to secure some union work. I did...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1617-8
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for that suggestion. This problem will become more and more obvious as time goes on. As I said, I am disappointed with my noble friend’s reply, but for the moment, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 164 withdrawn. Amendment 164ZA...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1604
House
House of Lords

I am disappointed with that response. I do think it adequately addresses reality as it exists today in the approaches by insurers to accident victims. In answer to the noble Lord, Lord Neill of Bladen, subsection (1) of my amendment prohibits the third party’s insurance company soliciting a claimant, "““where...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1604
House
House of Lords

Does my noble friend not agree that in the instance that he described and in which he was involved there could have been an element of corruption with people being paid when they gave information about that accident?

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2012
Reference
734 c1623
House
House of Lords

Before my noble friend Lord Carlile replies regarding his amendment, I thank the Minister for his reply to my amendments, which raised difficult technical points. I hope that he will forgive me if I read what he has said with some care, as no doubt he will read the whole...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 January 2012
Reference
734 c621
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 55 to 59 which are in my name and that of other noble Lords. I recall when I first started as a lawyer there were some 400 to 500 certiorari applications every year. It was a very limited field but under the guidance of...

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 January 2012
Reference
734 c613-6
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful to the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, and the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for their contribution to this discussion and thank the Minister for his reply. Do I take it that he is saying that these cases are covered subject only to the means test?...

Member
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 January 2012
Reference
734 c611-2
House
House of Lords