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Letter dated 09/01/2012 from Dominic Grieve QC MP to Caroline Lucas MP regarding Babar Ahmad. 2 p.

Deposited by
Attorney General
Type
Deposited papers
Date
9 January 2012
Reference
DEP2012-0020
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what recent representations she has received on the case of Babar Ahmad; and if she will make a statement.

Asked by
Andrew Stephenson (Conservative)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
87393; 537 c1119W
House
House of Commons
I should really like to understand what happened to the evidence in the Babar Ahmad case and, specifically, why the CPS apparently gave it directly to the United States without considering it first. Ministers have refused my written question on the matter, saying that it would ““prejudice…proceedings””, so will the Attorney-General explain why and tell us what bilateral agreements are in place to allow evidence gathered by UK police about crimes alleged to have been committed in the UK to be provided to the US authorities in cases considered for trial in the US, such as that of Babar Ahmad?
Asked by
Caroline Lucas (Green Party)
Answering body
Attorney General
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1195
House
House of Commons
What role can the Attorney-General and the Government play in ensuring that there are no more Babar Ahmad cases?
Asked by
Tom Brake (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Attorney General
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1195-6
House
House of Commons
The Attorney-General may have read on 11 December in The Sunday Times, as I did with some interest, that the Government will be"““asking British magistrates to examine detailed evidence involved in each case””" and bringing forward plans to allow judges"““to order a trial in Britain if they considered it would serve justice better.””" Given that the House is committed to reforming extradition, are those the sort of changes that we are to expect, and when are we going to hear about them officially?
Asked by
Emily Thornberry (Labour)
Answering body
Attorney General
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1196
House
House of Commons
As the hon. Lady appreciates, the Home Office leads on the question of extradition. I indicated when I last took questions that the Government take the view that, first, they need to study the Scott Baker report, which they are doing, and then they will come to the House with proposals. I hope that that will be as soon as possible. In the meantime, I suggest to her that speculation in The Sunday Times is not always the best indication of Government policy.
Answered by
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Answering body
Attorney General
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1196
House
House of Commons
I have had no recent discussion with the Crown Prosecution Service in relation to that matter.
Answered by
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Answering body
Attorney General
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1195
House
House of Commons
I have to try to work out where the right hon. Gentleman's question is coming from, but the main complaint about the Babar Ahmad case is the length of time that it is taking. As he will be aware, proceedings started on 5 August 2004, and in this country proceedings, including the refusal of leave to appeal to the House of Lords, were completed on 6 June 2007. The problems and delays since then are in fact due to the European Court of Human Rights, and that ties in with my answers to earlier questions about the inordinate length of time that it takes to bring such cases to the European Court of Human Rights—with consequences, in the case of Babar Ahmad, that are plainly undesirable.
Answered by
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Answering body
Attorney General
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1195-6
House
House of Commons
As the hon. Lady will appreciate, the case is live, and that is the reason—I have no doubt—why the CPS has been guarded about any response that it can give to her. She has raised a number of very specific questions, however, and I respectfully suggest that the best thing to do is for me to write to her and to try to answer the specific matters that she raised at the end of her question.
Answered by
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Answering body
Attorney General
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
537 c1195
House
House of Commons
What recent discussions he has had with the Crown Prosecution Service on the case of Babar Ahmad.
Asked by
Caroline Lucas (Green Party)
Answering body
Attorney General
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2011
Reference
87246; 537 c1195
House
House of Commons

To ask the Attorney-General whether the decision not to prosecute Babar Ahmad in the UK was made after the Crown Prosecution Service had seen all of the evidence obtained by (a) the Metropolitan Police Service and (b) other authorities in the UK; and if he will make a statement.

Asked by
Caroline Lucas (Green Party)
Answering body
Attorney General
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
1 December 2011
Reference
84305; 536 c1033W
House
House of Commons

Unallotted backbench debate (half day). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Dominic Raab
Answering member
Damian Green; Damian Green
Department
Home Office
Type
Adjournment debates; Backbench debates; e-petition debates
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c147-94WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab), who secured this debate, quite rightly concluded his remarks by saying that the fact that Babar Ahmad has been in prison for so long was damaging to the image and traditions of British justice; that is absolutely true. I think that...

Member
Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c154WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend underlines the need for the Home Secretary to have the jurisdiction and the discretion that the law presently allows. It is a powerful argument in support of the view that that discretion should remain. I have not sought to deal with any particular case or set of...

Member
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c167-8WH
House
House of Commons

Don't worry, it won't last.

Member
Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c151WH
House
House of Commons

I am sure that is correct. Going back to the Baker report and the issue of extradition under the European arrest warrant for the purposes of investigation rather than prosecution, the report effectively denies that EAWs are being used in cases where there is ““insufficient evidence””. That is an astonishing...

Member
Dominic Raab (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c151-2WH
House
House of Commons

Certainly, we need to have a debate in Chamber time and on a votable motion. I hope that we can deal with all the individual cases within the scope of the broader policy issue about the UK-US treaty and the European arrest warrant. If there is enough support from hon....

Member
Dominic Raab (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c150-1WH
House
House of Commons

If we had a vote today, we would carry it, but of course we cannot have one because we are not in the main Chamber. I agree with my hon. Friends who have already expressed the view that we ought to have this debate in the House. The Attorney-General, the...

Member
Dennis Skinner (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c151WH
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention.

Member
Dominic Raab (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c150WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady has partly addressed my point. Given the number of hon. Members present today, does the hon. Gentleman not share my concern that this is a matter that should be debated on the Floor of the House? We need to debate both this issue and the issue of...

Member
Andy Slaughter (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 November 2011
Reference
536 c150WH
House
House of Commons