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Terrorism Bill

I shall take this slowly so that we may all follow it together. First, all those who collate information and publications for libraries such as the British Library in the way that the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, described will be able to continue what they have always done without fear of transgressing these provisions. The extension of Clause 2(9) to all those involved in that work will give them that assurance. Clause 2(9)(d), as my noble friend Lord Eatwell made clear, already provides,"““that the conduct in relation to that publication, so far as it contained matter by reference to which it was a terrorist publication by virtue of subsection (2)(b)””—" noble Lords will recall that that subsection is included—"““was not intended by him to provide or make available assistance to any person in the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism””." That covers all those who collect material for libraries, and those academics who produce material so that it can be properly debated. Noble Lords will recall that these provisions were previously restricted to those who disseminated information electronically. They did not extend to anyone else. By removing those provisions, we will have been responsible for a beneficial change. We will effectively remove Clause 2(9)(a). Clause 2(9)(b) and (c) concerns whether the publication encourages terrorism and the person endorses it. Paragraph (d) concerns whether the publication is of use to terrorists and whether the person intends it to be so used. Therefore, to answer my noble friend Lord Ahmed, a bookshop manager will not commit an offence unless it is clear that he endorsed the content of the books that he was selling.