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Welfare Reform Bill

The noble Lord is quite right; Basildon was one of the earlier pilots. I do not have the case load details to hand, but we will see if we can provide them. On costings, it will come as no surprise if I restate the truth. The rate of allowance has not been set, and until it is, it is impossible to provide the sort of costings the noble Lord seeks. I revert to the genuine principle here: we are not looking to consign people to a support group when they do not need to be in that group. We want to engage with people in the widest possible way so that we can help and support them. It seems quite wrong to put everyone who is undergoing treatment for cancer in that support group. We have probably all had family circumstances which have been impacted by that dreadful challenge, but it affects different people in different ways. It does not inhibit some—indeed, quite a lot—of people who are undergoing the various stages of treatment from being involved in work-related activity, even if they are not in work itself.