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Proceeding contribution from Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Monday, 13 July 2009. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Coroners and Justice Bill.


Coroners and Justice Bill

In supporting the amendments in the name of my noble friend Lady Linklater, I reflect over a somewhat lengthy career that sentencing has gone up and up to an extent that would have been unrecognisable when I started out at the Bar. I wonder why that is. It seems that the confidence of the judiciary—I refer to the Crown Court, to recorders and so on—has been shaken by the constant sniping, by both government and the press, at their discretion and what they do. The Government’s role has been to try to curb the discretion of the judiciary in sentencing, and the press’s role has been to criticise judges as being completely out of touch. No one rises to the bench in the criminal courts—to the Crown Court bench or even as a recorder—unless they have had a lifetime’s experience in the criminal law. They really know what they are talking about, and over time they may from their experience be best able to distinguish between one case and another and to determine where there should be justice and where there should be mercy. That is their job and their profession. Then along comes a Minister with no experience of the criminal law who says, "You are doing it all wrong. This would not go down well in my constituency. They do not like this", and increasingly tries to lay down lines that the judiciary must toe. That is wrong, because he does not have the expertise. The sentencing council could be a very positive thing because it will include people who really know what they are talking about. I have every confidence that it will perform the proper task of issuing guidance to sentencers. If there has been a shaking of the confidence in sentences then it is necessary to get clear information about what is effective. What is the best way of rehabilitating prisoners and giving people a chance to renounce their criminal ways and perhaps to build new lives for themselves? To what degree do sentencers move away from the guidance they are given? What sort of discretion do they have? In particular, as this amendment suggests in paragraph (c), how can they try to take over from the red-top press the role of informing the public of what sentencers do and how effective they can be? I fully commend my noble friend for putting these purposes at the beginning of the clause and giving a context within which everything else that follows can be understood. I support the amendment wholeheartedly.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
712 c1032 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Disability Children Disclosure of information Crime Bail Administration of justice Detainees Crimes of violence Custodial treatment Evidence Homicide Intimidation Ethnic groups Immunity from prosecution Protection Police Prosecutions Public appointments Public consultation Offensive weapons Magistrates' courts Sentencing Terrorism Vulnerable adults Young offenders Witnesses Trials Video recordings Reoffenders Sentencing Council for England and Wales
Legislation
Coroners and Justice Bill 2008-09
Link
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