Proceeding contribution from Lord King of Bridgwater (Conservative) in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 14 October 2009. It occurred during Ministerial statement on Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Afghanistan and Pakistan
My Lords, is the Leader of the House aware that the whole House recognises the grave situation that we now face? We may not be losing, but we are certainly not yet winning. The Statement has not to my mind changed things in any way that will make a significant difference to the grave situation that is being carried mainly on the courage and amazing bravery of our forces, who are paying a very heavy price. I found the timing of the Statement rather extraordinary. I do not know whether it was meant to pre-empt what President Obama is going to say. The United States is the lead player. If, as the noble Baroness said, the Statement dovetails with the discussions between Prime Minister and the President and is an indication of what President Obama is going to say, I have a real concern as to whether a new and adequate strategy is being prepared. In that connection, this very carefully worded Statement makes clear that even this proposed very limited increase is conditional on three conditions and will not happen unless they are met. The second condition is that every soldier is fully equipped. As Secretary of State, I certainly saw it as my responsibility on behalf of the Government to see that our forces were properly equipped and in no sense sold to a general that it was his job. Everyone knows that there are not enough helicopters. Even with the welcome announcement today, that is nothing like enough. Compared to the American provision it is woefully inadequate. So that condition is not yet met. The third condition is that all countries in the coalition bear their fair share. I have now listened to three Secretaries of State for Defence, in the rapid speed at which they turn over in this Government, each saying, "Everyone else has got to bear their fair share. We are going to talk to them and make sure that they do". They never come back with any adequate answer. With great respect to the noble Baroness—I understand entirely the position she is in—she has repeated exactly the same sentence. She said, "We are going to go on talking to them". If other countries in the coalition do not bear their fair share and the conditions are not met, will the Prime Minister not provide even this very limited number of extra troops?
Secondary information
- Type
- Proceeding contribution
- Reference
- 713 c236
- Session
- 2008-09
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords chamber
- Subjects
- Armed forces Deployment Development aid Defence equipment Elections Police Peacekeeping operations Politics and government Pakistan Terrorism Training Afghanistan al Qaeda Taliban Military aid Improvised explosive devices
- Link
- View this Proceeding contribution on www.publications.parliament.uk
Librarians' tools
- Timestamp
- 2024-04-21 13:02:10 +0100
- URI
- http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/CONTRIBUTION_583901
- In Indexing
- http://indexing.parliament.uk/Content/Edit/1?uri=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/CONTRIBUTION_583901
- In Solr
- https://search.parliament.uk/claw/solr/?id=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/CONTRIBUTION_583901