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Welsh Ministers (Transfer of Functions) (No. 2) Order 2009

I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I have high and warm regard for the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, and I would like to make it clear that in no way did I insinuate that he was seeking to avoid the issue and trying to attack devolution in toto. What I said was that his criticism—fundamentally, that any discretion given to the Welsh authority in relation to any field to apply a standard higher or lower than that of England has its problems—is something that is essentially an argument not against the particular regulations before us, but against devolution itself. It was in that context that I put the argument.