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Digital Economy Bill [HL]

This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Although the noble Lord has been helpful in giving me something extra as regards the information which might be required from an internet service provider, it seems to me that he has made the case for the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, because these are quite technical things. In those circumstances, the copyright owner is intertwined with the ISP and, in terms of the information which needs to be obtained to ensure that these technical measures are effective, they will need to talk to the copyright owners as well. The noble Lord, Lord Lucas, has not had an answer to his point that if copyright owners are dealt with by another section of the Communications Act, why not the ISPs. Surely what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Many questions are still unanswered. As this is at the core of the Government’s proposals, it is somewhat surprising that the Government have not laid out their stall rather more successfully. Before the next stage of the Bill, I hope that the Government will give this further consideration. In the mean time, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 169 withdrawn. Amendments 170 to 172 not moved. Clause 10 agreed. Clause 11 : Obligations to limit internet access Clause 11 : Obligations to limit internet access Amendments 173 to 174A not moved. Amendment 175 Moved by