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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 26 January 2010, in the House of Lords.

Digital Economy Bill [HL]

Digital Economy Bill (HL). Lords committee stage fifth day. Clauses 10 to 18 agreed to, with clauses 11, 15, and 18 agreed to as amended.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
716 c1301-74,1390-404 
Session
2009-10
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
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Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
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House of Lords chamber
Related items
Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002
Wednesday, 31 July 2002
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1321 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his comments. It is quite a complicated area. I thi...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1321 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may intervene before the noble Lord withdraws the amendment. I would have added my name to...
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Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1321-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very inappropriately failed to make a short contribution on the amendment, which was als...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1314-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely agree with the noble Lord that my noble friend Lord Howard of Rising has won th...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1313-4 (Link to this contribution) I was hoping that I would inspire the noble Lord to make a comment and I thank him for his assessmen...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 170. Although ISPs have the major role to play, copyright owners have...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment is a straightforward attempt to bring the Minister out of his lair to debate...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1316 (Link to this contribution) 169: Clause 10, page 13, leave out lines 13 to 15
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1317-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this short debate. We have already discuss...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1316-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, is extremely important. We have to be ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1318 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, "participating in technical workshops" sounds a bit thin. This is a very wide clause to en...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1318 (Link to this contribution) I can help the noble Lord to some extent. One thing that the ISPs might need to provide Ofcom with i...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1318 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may pick up on the reply given to my amendment, now that I have had time to rese...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1319 (Link to this contribution) This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Although the noble Lord has been helpful in giving me somet...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1320 (Link to this contribution) 175: Clause 11, page 13, line 25, leave out "or" and insert "and"
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1320 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 175 and 176 focus on the reasons that the Secretary of State may give for imposing a tech...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1305-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments in this group build on my noble friend’s suggestions of other useful criter...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c1305 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as regards those who produce material which is shared without any remuneration to the orig...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1303 (Link to this contribution) That was a very interesting response and no doubt we will give it due mature consideration. In the m...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1302 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can see the purpose of the amendments; we should use "must" rather than "may", because w...
Lord Puttnam | 716 c1306-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to clarify something that the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, just said. He rightly pointe...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1307-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, new subsection (4)(b) allows the Secretary of State to direct Ofcom to carry out an assess...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1310 (Link to this contribution) 168: Clause 10, page 13, line 12, at end insert— "( ) OFCOM may make a recommendation that the Secre...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1310 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords, but eventually it seems to draw useful answers out of the Government. The fact that on...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1310-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move Amendment 168 on behalf of my noble friend Lady Miller. I shall speak also to Amend...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1308-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must admit that I struggle with the analysis of the noble Earl, Lord Erroll. He seemed t...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1310 (Link to this contribution) I referred to the telecom directive. We have said numerous times—as the noble Lord said, we have bee...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1309-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suspect that we are not going to agree on "Avatar". It seems to me that the industry is ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1312 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments has one overriding theme: when is it appropriate for the Secretar...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1313 (Link to this contribution) On Amendment 168, Clause 10 is intended to give the Secretary of State the power to ask Ofcom whethe...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1301 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am moving Amendment 157 in the absence of my noble friend Lady Miller, whom I was hoping...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1301 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord need not have worried; I am capable of carrying on at considerable length, although, ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1334-5 (Link to this contribution) These amendments essentially propose that there should be a judicial ruling before any action under ...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 716 c1333 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Whitty. He has eloquently ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1333-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, some of these amendments mirror the discussion that we had on a similar point on the earli...
Lord Whitty | 716 c1332 (Link to this contribution) 186: Clause 13, page 14, leave out lines 41 to 45
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1338 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment is designed to probe and clarify the basis for and the amount of the penalt...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1337 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment would provide for indemnification of internet service providers against any ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1338 (Link to this contribution) 197A: Clause 14, page 16, line 9, leave out "£250,000" and insert "£10,000"
Lord Whitty | 716 c1336-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will in a minute withdraw the amendment, which I did not have any great hope of the Gove...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1337 (Link to this contribution) 194: Clause 13, page 15, line 36, at end insert— "( ) provision requiring a copyright owner to indem...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1342-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is worth setting out why Clause 15 is part of the Bill. The apportionment of costs is, ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1341-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 206 refers to, ""provision to prevent costs being passed onto subscribers in the...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1340 (Link to this contribution) My point, my Lords, is that changes in the level of penalty will be the subject of an affirmative in...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1339 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my amendment in this group removes the power of the Secretary of State to raise the maximu...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1339-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank those noble Lords who have taken part in this debate but I am afraid we do not agr...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1341 (Link to this contribution) 199: Clause 15, page 16, leave out lines 31 to 34
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1341 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will try to be brief on this group. Most noble Lords agree that costs should not fall un...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1340-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. It is interesting that we had his velvet glove when he...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1345 (Link to this contribution) 210: Clause 16, page 17, line 36, leave out "entirely or mainly"
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) I can be as helpful as the noble Lord, Lord Lucas. The amendment would specify that "copyright infri...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1343 (Link to this contribution) I think that trying to limit file-sharing on the network is totally unfair. File-sharing is a very g...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1343 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. I was interested to hear the comments of the noble Earl, Lord Er...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1343 (Link to this contribution) Far be it from me to make an absolute prediction—"Never say never", they say. I stress that internet...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) 200A: Clause 15, page 16, line 34, at end insert— "( ) Any provision specified under subsection (1) ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) 206A: Clause 15, page 17, line 7, at end insert— "( ) No order is to be made under this section unle...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1347-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I see it, there are two areas of concern about this clause—policy and procedure. I shal...
Lord Puttnam | 716 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to make a point that I probably should have made in introducing my amendments. Having ...
Lord Puttnam | 716 c1347 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may speak to my Amendments 211C to 211J, as amendments to government Amendment 211B, and A...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1346-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we move now to government Amendment 211A which is grouped with Amendment 211B and other am...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1346 (Link to this contribution) 211A: Clause 17, page 18, line 19, leave out from "reducing" to end of line 22 and insert "any infri...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1345 (Link to this contribution) Well, the noble Earl has produced a most interesting point and I shall look forward to hearing what ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1345 (Link to this contribution) Before we move on, may I just ask a quick question? Does that therefore solve the problem of the lib...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1345 (Link to this contribution) The amendment would remove the qualifying words "entirely or mainly" from a definition of an interne...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c1355 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am alarmed by the Government’s amendment, which seems rather draconian. I lived through ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1355-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Fowler, talked of new threats and the importance of being in a positi...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1354-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not quite sure what one should do at the moment, because we seem to have strayed into...
Lord Whitty | 716 c1350-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure whether my intervention is appropriate here or whether it should have waited...
Lord Puttnam | 716 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I promised the last time I spoke that I would not delay the Committee on this issue, but I want to a...
Lord Fowler | 716 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Puttnam, referred to the report by the Select Committee on Communicat...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1359 (Link to this contribution) That is a useful bit of cautionary advice from my fellow Whip. I hope that noble Lords will not move...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1356-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the Committee on this fascinating and wide-ranging debate. Because of the n...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1359 (Link to this contribution) 211B: Clause 17, page 18, line 39, leave out from beginning to end of line 5 on page 19 and insert— ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) Funnily enough, the noble Lord, Lord Maxton, has been answered by the Minister in previous debates. ...
Lord Maxton | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) Does that mean that it would be two years before any action could actually be taken?
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendment 180. The Government have already made certain concessions on the pro...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1323 (Link to this contribution) 177B: Clause 11, page 13, line 33, at end insert— "( ) No order is to be made under this section unl...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1323 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord nearly gave me a nasty turn. I will start with Amendment 177. I listened with intere...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1324 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am surprised that Amendment 181 was not moved. Amendment 182 is merely an amplification ...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1324 (Link to this contribution) 182: Clause 11, page 13, line 33, at end insert— "(4) An order made under this section shall expire ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1328 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 196. In another part of the Bill we discussed the whole ar...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1328 (Link to this contribution) 184: Clause 13, page 14, line 39, at end insert— "( ) that regard is had to the nature of any servic...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1331 (Link to this contribution) The Minister talked about taking reasonable steps. I seem to remember that at an earlier stage we pr...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall try to address these points. I was trying to give the noble Baroness, Lady Miller,...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 716 c1330 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister mentioned fixed terminals in libraries having software to prevent peer-to-pee...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1326 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we discussed this in the context of earlier parts of the Bill, and I hope the Minister wil...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1327 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with Amendment 191, which would change the word "may" to "must". Clause 13(4) does...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1326-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 191, which was ably referred to by the noble Lord, Lord Howard. I tho...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1361-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Committee will bear with me as I was very forbearing and did not make a sp...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1371-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had another interesting debate. Given the time, I will do my best to address the p...
Lord Whitty | 716 c1369-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I promise not to repeat what I said in the previous debate. There are two issues here. Fi...
Lord Triesman | 716 c1369 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate the noble Lord giving way just before sitting down. I think the point I have ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1365-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what I have said throughout the Bill has not been about trying to hit rights holders. I th...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1368-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is an underlying problem here. The powers that the Secretary of State is claiming ar...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1392 (Link to this contribution) This is a prime example of exactly why we need properly to revisit the Copyright, Designs and Patent...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1394 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his remarks. I am very grateful for them. I beg leave to withdraw the amend...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1391-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this clause seeks to make significant changes to the implementation of the EU electronic c...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) 177: Clause 11, page 13, line 28, at end insert— "( ) An order under this section must not be made u...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) Taking into account the comments of both noble Lords, we are happy to wait for the Government to com...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1315-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply and I thank those who have taken part in this debate. F...
Lord Fowler | 716 c1313 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord mentions camcorders. I agree with him entirely. It was for that reason that we made a...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1318 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that the Minister is intent on being brief and efficient in his responses today, bu...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1317 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am concerned about the level of information that Ofcom might be able to require from an ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1318-9 (Link to this contribution) That had occurred to me as well. It seemed to me that the clause was either otiose or not. On the te...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1319 (Link to this contribution) The two technologies which I have just mentioned mean that the IP address received is not the IP add...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1319 (Link to this contribution) I can help the Committee a little more. The copyright owners download material, or part of it, and a...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1320-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise early to see whether I can assist the Committee with some helpful comments. On the ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1306 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are extremely important amendments. They must be there to guide Ofcom in its deliber...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1304-5 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Lucas, has made some very important points. We debated this at some length on t...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1303-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment 166 as well. Amendment 161 tries to beef up paragraph (b). It looks at no...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1303 (Link to this contribution) 161: Clause 10, page 13, line 10, after "likely" insert "proportionality, objective justification an...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1302-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 10 allows the Secretary of State to require Ofcom to prepare in advance against the...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1311-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely agree with Amendment 168; my Amendment 173 tackles the same question in differe...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1308 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I just point out to the Minister that "Avatar" is the second-highest grossing film in hist...
Lord Puttnam | 716 c1312-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister responds, it might be helpful if I bring to the Committee’s attention ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1301 (Link to this contribution) 157: Clause 10, page 13, line 6, after "(1)" insert "must"
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1301-2 (Link to this contribution) We on these Benches agree with the amendments concerning paragraphs (a) and (b). It would be quite w...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1335 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for that question. We have been down this road before but it is worthy of...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1335 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister confirm my understanding of how the process will work once we are in the technical ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c1335 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister explain a little more about the costs involved? He referred to the costs of going t...
Lord Whitty | 716 c1332-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to the other amendments in this group. I apologise to the Committee for not being...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My memory of that is slightly different. I do not think that we have ever said that, if we were advi...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1331-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply on those amendments. We are making some progress. The M...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c1338 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the sum in the Bill seems to be an enormous amount of money. I think that the £10,000 set ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1339 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an enormous sum for small internet service providers. The market has some very big...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1338 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply and I am delighted that he shares my concerns. His cla...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1335-6 (Link to this contribution) I am just trying to see what detail I have. The initial obligations procedure has to be gone through...
Lord Colwyn | 716 c1341 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, should the amendment be agreed, I would not be able to call Amendments 200 to 202 inclusiv...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1340 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could make one point to the Minister. If there is a maximum penalty of £250,000, it is not...
Lord Whitty | 716 c1340 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may pick up on one thing that the Minister said, which was that Ofcom does not h...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1343 (Link to this contribution) Maybe we can get together in a few years’ time to see what has happened. In the mean time, I beg lea...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) 209: Clause 16, page 17, line 14, at end insert— ""copyright infringement" and "infringement of copy...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) This is an attempt to be helpful, as are all my amendments, but this one purely so. I beg to move.
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1346 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his remarks and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 210 withd...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1345-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the noble Lord will hear the answer immediately, as I will need to take advice, ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1345 (Link to this contribution) This is a brief probing amendment to highlight a possible drafting confusion. The drafting of the de...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1355 (Link to this contribution) In that case, I will confine most of my remarks for the debate on whether the clause should stand pa...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1355 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it may assist the Committee if I respond to the point made by the noble Earl, Lord Erroll....
Lord Lucas | 716 c1353-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a lot of sympathy for what the noble Lord, Lord Puttnam, says. This is an area in w...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1355 (Link to this contribution) If it helps the noble Earl, I intend to make quite a full speech in the clause stand part debate.
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1350 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his comment, and I sympathise hugely with what he is saying, but I also f...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1323 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are two pieces of marvellous news; with regard to the second, although I could not f...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1322 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister may feel that my Amendments 179 and 207 cover ground which has already been s...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1324 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with the amendments, although I preferred the first amendment in the group, Amendme...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1329 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other noble Lords, I have a lot of sympathy with the noble Lord’s amendments. It is q...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1328 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I endorse everything that has just been said. What is not in this amendment, but probably ...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1328 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would be grateful if the Minister felt able enlarge on what he said last time about the ...
Lord Maxton | 716 c1330-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that my noble friend replied to the point made by the noble Earl, Lord Erro...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1329-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as has been acknowledged by the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, we have previously debated...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1325 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the Committee will forgive me if I do not speak to Amendment 181, as it was not mov...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1324-5 (Link to this contribution) I sympathise with the concern that a technical obligations order does not just run and run without a...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1326 (Link to this contribution) 183: Clause 13, page 14, line 32, at end insert— "( ) that it makes proper provision for rights of a...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1325 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, indeed, that is a very reasonable answer, and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amen...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1327 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a very satisfactory reply and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 1...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1327 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree absolutely that it is vital that there should be proper and fair provision for app...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1326 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with my noble friend that the scope of any appeal process relating to the impositi...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) As I said before, I thoroughly approve of this.
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1403-4 (Link to this contribution) The clause already requires the Secretary of State to set out what constitutes unacceptable practice...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) This amendment raises a separate point. It comes under the same heading of making the trigger a bit ...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that, if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 225 by ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) 223A: Clause 18, page 19, line 40, at the beginning insert "qualifying" 223B: Clause 18, page 19, ...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) 224: Clause 18, page 20, line 6, after "State" insert "where any such regulations must be made by st...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment 221B is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 222 and 223 by reason of pre-emption. Amen...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1404 (Link to this contribution) 225B: Clause 18, page 20, line 11, at end insert— ""relevant register of internet domain names" mean...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1404 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I said, I shall read with great interest all that the Minister said, and I beg leave to...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1404 (Link to this contribution) 225A: Clause 18, page 20, line 7, leave out "an" and insert "a qualifying" Amendment 225A agreed. ...
Lord Triesman | 716 c1363-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am among those in the Committee who did not know whether they should have spoken on the ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1372-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response and all those who have expressed opposition to the clause. We ...
Lord Razzall | 716 c1370-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly in support of what was said by my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones. I have ...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1369 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should be very grateful if the noble Lord could enlarge on why he thinks the solutions t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) 221B: Clause 18, page 19, leave out lines 37 to 39
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1403 (Link to this contribution) 221A: Clause 18, page 19, line 33, leave out "an" and insert "a qualifying" Amendment 221A agreed. ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1402 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that helpful answer. As the Government are so committed to consultation, I ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1402 (Link to this contribution) Again, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, for tabling the amendment. The purpose of both ...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1402 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, following on from the last group of amendments, I agree with the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1401 (Link to this contribution) This is on the same subject: we probably should have grouped the amendments together. I thought it w...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1401 (Link to this contribution) 221: Clause 18, page 19, line 31, at end insert— "( ) The Secretary of State must consult before dec...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1401 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that that answers my noble friend's point. Perhaps he will differ, but I thi...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1401 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, for tabling the amendment. What we are talking abou...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1400-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we come now to another threshold. I was glad to see the qualifier "serious" in subsection ...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1400 (Link to this contribution) 218: Clause 18, page 19, line 24, at end insert ", and "( ) the failure is an issue reasonably withi...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that explanation. I will read it carefully along with the noble Lord’s r...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1400 (Link to this contribution) 219: Clause 18, page 19, line 25, at end insert "seriously"
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1400 (Link to this contribution) I will just say that I was not too serious about the Henry VIII idea: I just thought that the Govern...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1398-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, grouped with these sensible amendments, I have tabled alternative Amendment 218. It tries ...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1398 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendment 217. I thoroughly support the Government’s proposals in general, but...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1399-400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with regard to both amendments, what is being proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, and ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1399 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my speaking notes state that the suggestions of my noble friend and the noble Earl are ver...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1397 (Link to this contribution) 216: Clause 18, page 19, line 21, after "names," insert— "( ) the registry, having the powers and re...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 215 is a very simple one. Its purpose is to ensure that if a notice has been rec...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1396 (Link to this contribution) 215: Clause 18, page 19, line 16, after "period" insert "of not less than three months"
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1397 (Link to this contribution) 215A: Clause 18, page 19, line 18, leave out "an" and insert "a qualifying" Amendment 215A agreed. ...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I would like to think a little further on ...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1396 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for tabling these amendments. However, as the noble Lord, Lord Clemen...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1395-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the government amendments were welcome, but I want to clarify the position. Certain domain...
Earl of Erroll | 716 c1395 (Link to this contribution) I am quite involved in this world and I probably ought to redeclare something I declared earlier in ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1394-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before speaking to these amendments I will say a few words about the Government’s intentio...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1393 (Link to this contribution) It is wonderful the way in which some things, particularly little things, take a lot of consultation...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Bridgeman. These provisions shoul...
Lord Howard of Rising | 716 c1393 (Link to this contribution) 214ZA: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause— "Right to bring action Nothing in any proce...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1393-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman, is not here to move the amendment hims...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1394 (Link to this contribution) 214A: Clause 18, page 19, line 12, leave out "an" and insert "a qualifying"
Lord Lucas | 716 c1390 (Link to this contribution) 214: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause— "Amendment of the Electronic Commerce (EC Dir...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1391 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these provisions are all together in this amendment just because they would amend the same...
Lord Lucas | 716 c1344 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords. Amendment 209 withdrawn. Amendment 210 Moved by
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1319 (Link to this contribution) In response to the noble Earl, I make the point that we would certainly be prepared to talk to the r...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 716 c1397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are fully aware of the need to give a domain name registry enough time to consider prop...
Lord Clement-Jones | 716 c1337 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment could easily have been grouped with an earlier amendment to Clause 8, becau...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 716 c1359 (Link to this contribution) It is the government amendment which has been moved.
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 716 c1359 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I remind the Committee that if government Amendment 211B is agreed, I cannot call Amendmen...
Lord De Mauley | 716 c1401 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. Perhaps, in the light of my noble friend's interven...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 716 c1396 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, for his constructive comments. We know what he says a...
EC documents
DIR2000/31/EC
Subjects
Codes of practice Costs Computer networks Copyright Communication ICT EU law Film Libraries Internet Higher education Electronic commerce Mobile phones Ofcom Music Radio frequencies Registration Universities Technology Video piracy Subscriptions Internet service providers Statutory instruments
Legislation
Digital Economy Bill (HL) 2009-10
Link
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