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Proceeding contribution from Lord Howe of Aberavon (Conservative) in the House of Lords on Monday, 12 July 2010. It occurred during Debate on House of Lords: Working Practices.


House of Lords: Working Practices

I am delighted that I have inadvertently answered my noble friend’s question as well as asserted my principles. Great care has been taken to prevent such fear of encroachment. Some years ago, this House established a Finance Bill Sub-Committee of its Economic Affairs Committee. There was anxiety in the other place then that the fact that this House was studying finance at all, even with an attached condition, would risk encroachment. When this House decided to establish that sub-committee, there was an accompanying prohibition. The House decided, ""to prohibit the sub-committee from investigating the incidence or rates of tax and to allow it only to address technical issues of tax administration, clarification or simplification"." That was designed to address the concern on the part of the other place. The Cunningham committee—the Joint Committee on Conventions of the UK Parliament —concluded: ""The Lords committee should continue to respect the boundary between tax administration and tax policy, to refrain from investigating the incidence or rates of tax and to address only technical issues of tax administration, clarification and simplification. Provided it does so, we believe there is no infringement of Commons financial privilege"." Since then, our Finance Bill Sub-Committee has gained a good track record of scrutinising separate and important aspects of the past five or six Finance Bills. It has published its reports in time for consideration at Report stage in the Commons. Both in and out of Parliament, the reaction to its participation has been distinctly positive. The case that I am making, lest it be at all obscure to my noble friend the Leader of the House and, indeed, to the House as a whole, is that here is an opportunity for the House to enlarge its role and to take part in the Joint Committee of Parliament that the Forsyth commission recommended and which everyone else would like. It is another opportunity for us to exploit our ability in an effective way. I hope that this idea will be accepted with good will in the other place as well as here. That ends my, I hope, tolerably clear presentation of what I was trying to say.


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Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
720 c525-6 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Legislative process House of Lords House of Commons Legislation Membership Parliamentary procedure Parliamentary scrutiny Select committees Self-regulation Backbenchers Division of time Ministerial statements Oral questions Lord Speaker House of Lords Grand Committee
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