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Debate on Monday, 12 July 2010, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Strathclyde. The answering member was Baroness Royall of Blaisdon.

House of Lords: Working Practices

Lords debate on motion to take note of the case for reviewing the working practices of the House of Lords. Agreed to on question.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
720 c514-28, 542-98 
Session
2010-12
Department
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Legislation
Monday, 26 July 2010
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House of Lords: Working Practices
Tuesday, 27 July 2010
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 720 c542-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may cross the bounds between the Statement and what we are about to debate by dr...
Lord Luce | 720 c520-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can say one thing without doubt: the first real improvement in working practice is that ...
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Lord Howe of Aberavon | 720 c523-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is for me personally a real pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Luce, in this debat...
Lord Elton | 720 c525 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for those of us who are less expert in these matters than my noble and learned friend, wil...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 720 c525 (Link to this contribution) If my noble friend will forgive me, I am just making a point. I may find a slot where I can make way...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 720 c525 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure that I follow the nature of my noble friend’s question, to be honest. It must be...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 720 c526-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Leader of the House for facilitating this debate and very much welcom...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 720 c525-6 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that I have inadvertently answered my noble friend’s question as well as asserted my ...
Lord Cope of Berkeley | 720 c545-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have shared responsibility for the arrangement of business as a Whip in both Houses over...
Lord Kakkar | 720 c544-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord the Leader of the House for having provided this opportunity for di...
Baroness Hamwee | 720 c550 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one of our new colleagues asked me last week how it was that the House was self-regulating...
Lord Filkin | 720 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) There could be a separate committee; the Merits Committee is quite busy enough already and its focus...
Lord McNally | 720 c549 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Lord suggesting that that is a job for the existing Merits Committee or for a separate ...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 720 c557-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, for setting up this debate and, in partic...
Lord Norton of Louth | 720 c553-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, speaking as a member of the Merits Committee, I can assure the noble Baroness that, as the...
Baroness Hamwee | 720 c550-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether my noble friend’s "Hear, hear" was a comment on the rest of us or himself. Th...
Lord Strathclyde | 720 c514 (Link to this contribution) Moved By To move that this House takes note of the case for reviewing the working practices of the...
Lord Strathclyde | 720 c514-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have a fine number of speakers on the speakers’ list this afternoon, and I welcome the ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 720 c517 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord did not refer to the Speakership in the context of work which might be considered by ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 720 c517-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an important debate for this House and for the Members of this House. It is, too, ...
Lord Strathclyde | 720 c517 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me make it clear: I believe that it should consider that. It should be a widely drawn ...
Lord McNally | 720 c594-6 (Link to this contribution) It says here: "Did the House vote on these examples? Yes, it did". It must have been when the noble ...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 720 c596 (Link to this contribution) It would be helpful to the House if my noble friend could give some indication of how long this migh...
Lord McNally | 720 c594 (Link to this contribution) This House is its own master. The Leader’s Group will report to it, and there will be full discussio...
Lord McNally | 720 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) I know what the votes were. You know what the votes were. I am just giving you the statistics. I cl...
Lord Rooker | 720 c594 (Link to this contribution) I am not aware that the House debated or voted on any of the examples the Minister just gave. Someth...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c593 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the first vote was on a technical point on the Local Government Bill. The second vote that...
Lord McNally | 720 c593 (Link to this contribution) As my noble friend Lord Strathclyde has just whispered in my ear, it is too early to tell what the p...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c593 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord traded statistics with me. He has just to look at the scale of the defeats ...
Lord McNally | 720 c598 (Link to this contribution) You didn’t know you’d done that, did you? My noble friend is now getting worried. It is that combin...
Lord McNally | 720 c596 (Link to this contribution) I will not commit myself to that. At the end of the year there will be a draft Bill which will itsel...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c596 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while clearly one must not rush into this, the fact is that a draft Bill for reform of you...
Lord McNally | 720 c597-8 (Link to this contribution) I think so, but we should first look at the report. Certainly, we will not do what the noble Lord, L...
Lord Elton | 720 c596-7 (Link to this contribution) While my noble friend is on procedure, perhaps we may revert for a moment to the point made by the n...
Lord McNally | 720 c596 (Link to this contribution) Again, that would be both impudent of me and unfair to my noble friend Lord Goodlad and his group. F...
Lord Tyler | 720 c580-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, referred in her powerful speech to the denigration of n...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 720 c582 (Link to this contribution) I think that what my noble friend is talking about is political consensus. Let us hope that in such ...
Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 720 c578-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin with a word of thanks to the Front Bench opposite for giving us this debate today,...
Lord Lucas | 720 c585-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not always agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, but I certainly side with the la...
Lord Elton | 720 c588 (Link to this contribution) Why does my noble friend think that we ought to give the Government a lot more time if what we are t...
Lord Tyler | 720 c582-3 (Link to this contribution) I understand what my noble friend says: of course, at the end of the day, it is the Government’s bus...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 720 c583-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with the many different and time-consuming activities of your Lordships’ House, I have com...
Lord Parekh | 720 c572-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, for arranging this debate and introd...
Lord Elton | 720 c570-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as one, I presume, of the 57 Peers whom the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, had in mind, I am ver...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a fair point. I would certainly encourage the Whips on the government Front Bench ...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 720 c591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the noble Lord acknowledge, even if he does not agree with Statements being taken in ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two points on that. The noble Lord is right that 20 minutes is a fairly limited tim...
Lord McNally | 720 c592 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I am grateful for those final words—"the parties opposite"—because, as was said ear...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c592 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that I said that at all. I paid tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, for the ...
Lord McNally | 720 c592 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful. I hope that, from now on, when some people—I will not name them, but we know who...
Lord Lucas | 720 c588 (Link to this contribution) That is because I want a lot of government time to be taken up by things such as pre-legislative and...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 720 c591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on that subject, under this so-called self-regulatory regime, it is extremely difficult fo...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c588-91 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we, too, very much welcome the initiative of the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, and I am ha...
Lord Rooker | 720 c566-7 (Link to this contribution) No, no. There was almost a competition between us. My noble friend Lady Amos would say, "I once got ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 720 c567 (Link to this contribution) Can I ask my noble friend where the noble Baroness, Lady Gardner of Parkes, comes in?
Lord Rooker | 720 c567 (Link to this contribution) To be honest, there are quite a few women among the 57 Peers, but I do not want to go down that road...
Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 720 c567 (Link to this contribution) I would be interested to ask how many of them are women. I think that women are particularly intimid...
Lord Cope of Berkeley | 720 c570 (Link to this contribution) There are differences between the way in which Whips in this House and Whips in the other House oper...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 720 c567-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord Rooker. I say that because he and I ...
Lord Rooker | 720 c567 (Link to this contribution) Many who would stand up if they could be called are put off, and they are world experts in the varie...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 720 c570 (Link to this contribution) I defer to my noble friend’s greater experience: I have never been a Whip here nor do I intend to ap...
Lord Cope of Berkeley | 720 c562 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord, but I was not joking at all, particularly in my remarks...
Lord Elton | 720 c562 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while the noble Lord is on this point, am I right that he proposed half an hour for this? ...
Lord Butler of Brockwell | 720 c562 (Link to this contribution) I was not suggesting that the noble Lord was being frivolous. I, too, seriously suggest that if it i...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 720 c562-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is an extraordinary privilege to be able to follow the noble Lord, Lord Butler of Brock...
Lord Butler of Brockwell | 720 c562 (Link to this contribution) This is certainly an open matter for debate. I should have thought that 20 minutes would be perfectl...
Lord Rooker | 720 c564-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the title of the debate includes the words, "the case for reviewing". I think that the cas...
Lord Rooker | 720 c566 (Link to this contribution) Only after the event, and that is the difficulty. The argument for taking Statements in Grand Commit...
Lord Butler of Brockwell | 720 c559-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking the Leader of the House for this debate and in thanki...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 720 c566 (Link to this contribution) Those papers are bound to have a value on eBay.
Lord Filkin | 720 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Leader of the House with his customary suaveness has shot the fox that a number of us ...
Lord McNally | 720 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) No, I was just getting to the nice bit of my speech. I just thought that we could get something on t...
Lord Skelmersdale | 720 c575-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the usual channels on arranging for a debate on the practices of the House ...
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