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Budget debate on Tuesday, 28 March 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Alan Johnson. The answering member was Alan Duncan.

Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation

Budget debate (fourth day): industry. Motion on amendment of the law agreed on question. Motions to approve ways and means resolutions. Resolved. Motion on corporation tax (starting rate and non-corporate distribution rate) agreed on division (325 to 259). Motion on income tax (computer equipment) agreed on division (325 to 259). Motion on corporation tax (nuclear decommissioning) agreed on division (320 to 73). Motion on ring fence trades (rate of supplementary charge) agreed on division (320 to 75)

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
444 c695-815 
Session
2005-06
Department
Department of Trade and Industry
Procedure
Ways and means resolutions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 444 c707 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind all right hon. and hon. Members that there is a 12-minute limit on Back-Bench sp...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c786-7 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way now. Underneath it all, no matter now compassionate their rhetoric, the Conserv...
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Ed Miliband | 444 c732 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way later, but I want to make some progress first. I want to say a little about each p...
Ed Miliband | 444 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) I will give way later, but I want to make some progress first. We do not need to gaze into a crysta...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 444 c733 (Link to this contribution) The debate seems to be coalescing around how we can achieve social justice. As we are getting into a...
Ed Miliband | 444 c733-4 (Link to this contribution) I personally think that that was a mistake, yes, although there was a legitimate issue about the rep...
Greg Clark | 444 c734 (Link to this contribution) I commend the hon. Gentleman on his very thoughtful speech, but is he aware that that same report fr...
Ed Miliband | 444 c734-5 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is saying that we should make it a priority to put money into tackling child p...
Lord Young of Cookham | 444 c735 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Doncaster, North (Edward Miliband), who made a though...
Greg Clark | 444 c735-6 (Link to this contribution) Did my right hon. Friend notice that, in recalling the Lawson Budget, the hon. Member for Doncaster,...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c747 (Link to this contribution) During the general election campaign, quite a few senior citizens in Shrewsbury told me that they we...
Adam Price | 444 c742-4 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher) an...
Iain Wright | 444 c745-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Carmarthen, East and Dinefwr (Adam Price), whose tech...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c739 (Link to this contribution) Of course there are years in which growth in spending must be constrained below the growth of the ec...
Michael Meacher | 444 c739-42 (Link to this contribution) We should certainly see what happens after 2008, but I do not think that we need any lessons from th...
Michael Meacher | 444 c738-9 (Link to this contribution) The main Opposition speech today came not from their Front Bench but from the former Chancellor, the...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c747-8 (Link to this contribution) Leo Blair is one of my constituents, but I did not discuss that matter with him. It now transpires ...
Ed Miliband | 444 c748 (Link to this contribution) Did those nurses and doctors say whether they thought the NHS was better than it was in 1997?
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c748-9 (Link to this contribution) I think they said that some things were better but that other things were far worse. We managed to ...
Ed Miliband | 444 c750 (Link to this contribution) The point that I was making is that, listening very intently to the hon. Gentleman’s speech, I have ...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c750 (Link to this contribution) I have the benefit of not being on the Front Bench, so I can say what I like, quite frankly. On that...
Helen Goodman | 444 c750-3 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to take part in the Budget debate, and to follow the hon. Member for Shrewsbury and Atc...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 444 c753-4 (Link to this contribution) As I rise to challenge the received wisdom that we are living in a land of milk and honey, I confess...
Martin Horwood | 444 c749 (Link to this contribution) : I note that the hon. Gentleman was casting some aspersions about the commitment of the Liberal Dem...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c749 (Link to this contribution) All that I know is that a lot of people in my constituency—farmers and people who live in rural area...
Edward Leigh | 444 c749 (Link to this contribution) I hope that they kept their clothes on.
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c749-50 (Link to this contribution) Well, we discussed a range of issues. Many of them live in very rural communities and they highlight...
Martin Horwood | 444 c754 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the policy of the Alzheimer’s Society, and of the Liberal Democra...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 444 c754-6 (Link to this contribution) A policy review is being undertaken by my party. We have a realistic chance of being elected to gove...
Ivan Lewis | 444 c756 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give us a comparison of the year-on-year increases in NHS expenditure under ...
Martin Horwood | 444 c757 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a sincere supporter of green taxation, which Liberal Democrats support, too. D...
Harry Cohen | 444 c756-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Member for Peterborough (Mr. Jackson) for referring to me as a class warri...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 444 c756 (Link to this contribution) Delighted to. Obviously the hon. Gentleman has not been reading Hansard. For every year of the Conse...
Harry Cohen | 444 c759 (Link to this contribution) As I pointed out, we are in a position of leverage because such a high proportion of airlines use th...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 444 c759 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has just defeated his own case. If the United Kingdom imposed an aviation duty un...
Harry Cohen | 444 c759 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. Government policy must deal with aviation in the round. Acco...
Charles Walker | 444 c759 (Link to this contribution) : Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one good way of reducing emissions in the long term would be to...
Martin Horwood | 444 c759-62 (Link to this contribution) The Budget claimed to be a Budget for education and a green Budget, but as my hon. Friend the Member...
Joan Walley | 444 c762-4 (Link to this contribution) The contributions to tonight’s debate have been detailed and far-ranging, and they show the in-depth...
Nick Hurd | 444 c764-6 (Link to this contribution) I refer hon. Members to my declaration in the Register of Members’ Interests and place on record my ...
Nick Hurd | 444 c766-7 (Link to this contribution) I accept that exchange rates are a factor in the competitiveness of an economy, but I would suggest ...
Andrew Love | 444 c766 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the biggest factor in the competitiveness of the economy is the ...
Nick Hurd | 444 c767 (Link to this contribution) Personally, I am a supporter of the revalorisation of the climate change levy—
Nick Hurd | 444 c767-8 (Link to this contribution) I know what the answer is. I happen to believe that the climate change levy has played a role. The G...
Charles Walker | 444 c768-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak in the first Budget debate that I have at...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c769 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Gentleman gets around to touring his constituency. May I allow him an o...
Charles Walker | 444 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) Of course I welcome additional investment in my constituency, if indeed it turns up. It is interesti...
George Osborne | 444 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Member for Darlington (Mr. Milburn) urged me to be generous to the Chancellor, even i...
Sammy Wilson | 444 c774-6 (Link to this contribution) Since there appear to be no more Labour Back Benchers waiting to speak—indeed, the Chancellor has no...
Iris Robinson | 444 c772-4 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being in the Chamber for the whole debate, Madam Deputy Speaker; as you know, th...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 444 c770-2 (Link to this contribution) I feel utterly chastised, and I apologise. I left the debate earlier this evening to attend a recep...
Charles Walker | 444 c770 (Link to this contribution) It is a very serious problem. My children’s school has been hit twice in three weeks. Almost a dozen...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 444 c770 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker) has given us a real insight into his constituency, and t...
George Osborne | 444 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) Yes, he will lose his seat at the election. However, he is right: we have a record tax burden, highe...
Speaker | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is for the hon. Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne) to decide whether to accept an interventio...
George Osborne | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the hon. Member for Normanton (Ed Balls) has not attended today’s debate, and he ha...
George Osborne | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) No one doubts that the Chancellor has spent a great deal of other people’s money, but the question i...
Speaker | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind all hon. Members, before they become overexcited, that good temper and moderatio...
George Osborne | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will confirm that point I will happily give way to him.
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c784-5 (Link to this contribution) We are in this country increasing spending and investment, and both are generating growth in the eco...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c784 (Link to this contribution) After I have taken an intervention from the hon. Gentleman, I will come to some of the individual po...
Bernard Jenkin | 444 c784 (Link to this contribution) Can the right hon. Gentleman explain why it is possible for countries such as Ireland and Denmark to...
Speaker | 444 c783 (Link to this contribution) Order. Hon. Members must not keep standing if the Minister is not going to give way. It is for him t...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c783 (Link to this contribution) Of course, the hon. Gentleman, like many of his hon. Friends, made a bid for more money. I have to s...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c783 (Link to this contribution) Some of us who actually participated in the debate raised serious issues to do with our constituents...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should—[Hon. Members: ““More, more!””] It appears that both Chief Whips and shadow Chief W...
Speaker | 444 c782 (Link to this contribution) Order. The House must listen to the Minister who is responding to the debate.
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Today, they announce that they will not vote against the Budget measu...
George Osborne | 444 c779-80 (Link to this contribution) I support Bank of England independence and, like the Chancellor, I am looking at ways to entrench it...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c781 (Link to this contribution) We have had four days of comprehensive and informative debate—at least until the last 20 minutes. It...
George Osborne | 444 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is going to take a hand-out question, he should pick a better one. The Chance...
Ed Balls | 444 c779 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne) confirm that he proposed to undermine the independenc...
Speaker | 444 c778 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps the hon. Gentleman can reply.
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 444 c786 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. The Secretary of State for Trade and ...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c786 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to remind the House that, since 1997, women’s wages have increased...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c785 (Link to this contribution) We have not only improved productivity but done that while creating 2.3 million new jobs. Labour Mem...
Speaker | 444 c785 (Link to this contribution) Order. Conversations are breaking out throughout the Chamber. We must listen to the Chief Secretary,...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c785-6 (Link to this contribution) The only years when productivity fell in the United Kingdom were Tory years. I do not know if the ho...
David Gauke | 444 c785 (Link to this contribution) The Chief Secretary says that the Government have improved productivity. Will he explain precisely h...
Speaker | 444 c786 (Link to this contribution) Order. The House really must let the Minister make his speech.
Alan Johnson | 444 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman was right about replacement, as we have made it plain that the clear skies scheme...
Martin Horwood | 444 c699 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State applauded the Chancellor’s inclusion of microgeneration budgets for Governmen...
Alan Johnson | 444 c699 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether all three Members wished to ask the same question but, on that resolution, we ...
Ed Davey | 444 c699 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. I am sure that my hon. Friends have much better quest...
Alan Johnson | 444 c699 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey).
Alan Johnson | 444 c697-9 (Link to this contribution) I am coming on to announcements in the Budget on R and D, particularly in the health service, but in...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 444 c697 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for arriving just after the right hon. Gentleman started his speech. On research and dev...
Anne Main | 444 c705 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend will share my disgust at some of the daft regulations that come out of...
Alan Duncan | 444 c704 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is always changing the cycle and the base in order to churn out statistics that s...
Alan Johnson | 444 c701 (Link to this contribution) I can give the assurance that in the energy review that is one specific aspect that we will be exami...
Ed Miliband | 444 c704 (Link to this contribution) On a point of fact, does the hon. Gentleman accept that annual average productivity growth in this c...
Alan Duncan | 444 c701-4 (Link to this contribution) I have watched all 10 of the Budgets delivered by the Chancellor, and none of us who has watched him...
Daniel Kawczynski | 444 c700 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State is outlining the steps that the Government are taking to reduce CO2 emissions...
Alan Johnson | 444 c700 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an extremely important point. We cannot solve the problem domestically. The...
David Howarth | 444 c700 (Link to this contribution) : May I bring the Secretary of State back to Budget resolution 47 and ask what precise changes in co...
Alan Johnson | 444 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) I have dealt with Budget resolution 47. The microgeneration strategy will examine how we can tackle...
Alan Johnson | 444 c695 (Link to this contribution) This year’s Budget equips British business to meet the challenges of globalisation—[Interruption.]
Alan Johnson | 444 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) The Budget enhances Britain’s strong economy, entrenches stability and widens opportunity. Today, th...
Speaker | 444 c695 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I ask anyone who has a cell phone still switched on please to switch it off? It is causin...
Alan Johnson | 444 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) Business investment has grown on average by 5 per cent. a year since 1997, compared with a growth of...
Lord Bellingham | 444 c696 (Link to this contribution) Am I right in saying that business investment has fallen to its lowest level for the past 10 years? ...
Edward Leigh | 444 c729 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with that sensible proposition, which I hope the Minister has noted.
Edward Leigh | 444 c730-1 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I cannot because I have had my two strikes. It is a ridiculous way to run such deba...
Ed Miliband | 444 c731 (Link to this contribution) It is a great privilege to follow the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh), who had interesting ...
David Leslie Taylor | 444 c731 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to make the point that I would have made if the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh) h...
Helen Goodman | 444 c729 (Link to this contribution) : Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Edward Leigh | 444 c729 (Link to this contribution) Of course I give way to my fellow member of the Public Accounts Committee—a very effective member an...
Edward Leigh | 444 c730 (Link to this contribution) I just tried to explain it. We can argue back and forth about statistics, but I shall not do that. I...
Ed Miliband | 444 c731-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend about the contradiction and thank him for the extra time. It is a privi...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c724 (Link to this contribution) One year—of course! The Red Book uses funny time scales and considers output per man. On all me...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c724 (Link to this contribution) If I give way again, I will have no more injury time. Ever since he was shadow Chancellor, this Cha...
Ed Miliband | 444 c723 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?
Kerry McCarthy | 444 c724-7 (Link to this contribution) It is slightly daunting to follow a former Chancellor of the Exchequer in a Budget debate. I spent t...
Speaker | 444 c724 (Link to this contribution) Order. The right hon. and learned Gentleman’s time is up.
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c724 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way. Productivity in the public sector has been dropping like a stone as huge...
Charles Walker | 444 c729 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend recognise the huge cost inefficiencies in laundering taxpayers’ money back to th...
Tom Clarke | 444 c719 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might be able to catch your eye later, Madam Deputy Speaker. However, if he will ...
Tom Clarke | 444 c719-20 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right—the party has truly produced a property-owning democracy. The Chancellor de...
Andrew Love | 444 c719 (Link to this contribution) On home ownership, my right hon. Friend will know that until a year or so ago, the number of people ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) I draw the attention of the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Interests. I have not mis...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c721-2 (Link to this contribution) Like most hon. Members, I have enormous respect for the right hon. and learned Gentleman. However, I...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c721 (Link to this contribution) The Chief Secretary must deliver the public spending round—I have worked with some tough Chief Secre...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c722-3 (Link to this contribution) I realise that spending is not usually a matter for the Budget, although I used to include it. Howev...
Andrew Love | 444 c723 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman is discussing business investment, which is one way to rebalanc...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 444 c723 (Link to this contribution) The Chancellor says that every year, but the record, as the hon. Gentleman has conceded, is dreadful...
Vincent Cable | 444 c711-5 (Link to this contribution) It is, because as my hon. Friend implies, the pilot schemes have been run already and have proved hi...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 444 c711 (Link to this contribution) : Does my hon. Friend share my concern that, at a cancer briefing this morning, the Minister respons...
Vincent Cable | 444 c711 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the right hon. Member for Darlington (Mr. Milburn), who is a former Trea...
Alan Milburn | 444 c709-11 (Link to this contribution) I will come to precisely that. The hon. Gentleman might have read, I think, the most authoritative s...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 444 c709 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with interest to the right hon. Gentleman’s homily to the future. Can he explain how,...
Alan Milburn | 444 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) I refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Interests. It is always a huge pleasure t...
Tom Clarke | 444 c717-9 (Link to this contribution) Since 1997 the Government’s objective has been to build a strong economy and a fairer society with o...
Martin Horwood | 444 c719 (Link to this contribution) Our primary care trust keeps within its budget. It is a three-star PCT that has balanced the books a...
Helen Goodman | 444 c715 (Link to this contribution) Surely the hon. Gentleman appreciates that, if there are concerns that tax reliefs are being abused ...
Vincent Cable | 444 c715-7 (Link to this contribution) Surely the obvious answer is that it is best to think those things through in advance. That is not t...
Alan Duncan | 444 c705 (Link to this contribution) He declines to tell the House. He should be on top of the issue and able to tell us. The Budget is a...
Alan Duncan | 444 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. The Department website stated:"““One of the most effective ways of real...
Ed Davey | 444 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman know whether the Department realised that the Chancellor would abolish the h...
Alan Duncan | 444 c705 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The hazardous waste directive banning the use of lead in new ele...
Alan Duncan | 444 c707 (Link to this contribution) I always agree with my Front Bench colleagues, although I have little doubt that the Secretary of St...
Harry Cohen | 444 c707 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Alan Duncan | 444 c707 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. In looking back at the Budget, we need to look at the broad direction in which our ...
Lord Young of Cookham | 444 c736-8 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed. There is one minor modification, which I shall come to in a moment, involving a tax tha...
Harry Cohen | 444 c757-9 (Link to this contribution) The gist of my speech is the measures needed to tackle climate change. At least the Chancellor has m...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c783 (Link to this contribution) Let the House have no doubt that this Budget sets out how we on the Government Benches will equip Br...
Lord Austin of Dudley | 444 c780 (Link to this contribution) I noticed that in the interviews that the hon. Gentleman gave, responding to the Budget last week, h...
Stewart Hosie | 444 c701 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that the Government are serious about reducing carbon emissions and tackling globa...
Edward Leigh | 444 c728-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Member for Bristol, East (Kerry McCarthy) will forgive me if I do not follow he...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c767 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman, who clearly has an extensive knowledge, no doubt ...
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 444 c783-4 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way at the moment, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We can invest in the skills and servi...
Alan Johnson | 444 c707 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the shadow Secretary of State for Health, who said that he though...
Helen Goodman | 444 c730 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I do not think that he was paying attention to the Budget ...
Subjects
Decommissioning Business Corporation tax Climate change Equality ICT Education Income tax Energy supply Industry Fiscal policy Economic situation NHS Nuclear power Regulation Regional planning and development Research Science Productivity Budget March 2006
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