Adjournment debate on Tuesday, 7 November 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Anne Begg. The answering member was Ian McCartney.
Farepak
Westminster hall adjournment debate on Farepak and the voucher/hamper industry.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 451 c183-210WH
- Session
- 2005-06
- Department
- Department of Trade and Industry
- Chamber / Committee
- Westminster Hall
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- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Field of Birkenhead | 451 c185WH (Link to this contribution) I hope that Halifax Bank of Scotland is tuning into my hon. Friend’s debate, because I have rarely s...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c185WH (Link to this contribution) Many people, including HBOS, need to answer some serious questions. Although I understand that such ...
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Ian Stewart | 451 c185WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate. Is she aware that this morning, the...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c185WH (Link to this contribution) I agree, and I congratulate the Minister on his work on the situation. Sainsbury’s has said that it ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c184-5WH (Link to this contribution) I agree, and I shall address that point a little later. My constituent and others were told by Fare...
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Brian H Donohoe | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend may not know, but Members debating a statutory instrument on the Big Lottery Fund las...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c185-6WH (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more. Soon after the issue was raised on the Floor of the House during Trade and I...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 451 c185WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this debate. Does she share my disappointment that the Bri...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) I shall make some progress. The BRC let Farepak customers down badly by promising something that it...
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Tom Brake | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way?
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Chris Ruane | 451 c183WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way? [Laughter.]
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c183WH (Link to this contribution) The number of Members present shows that there is huge interest in the subject. I applied for this ...
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Speaker | 451 c183WH (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call Anne Snelgrove to discuss Farepak and the voucher-hamper industry, may I point ...
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David Leslie Taylor | 451 c184WH (Link to this contribution) Credit unions would be a good source of short-term loans. Does my hon. Friend agree with the sentime...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c184WH (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my hon. Friend the Member for North-West Leicestershire (David Taylor).
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c184WH (Link to this contribution) I agree, and I shall provide some details later about how we may be able to help. My constituent Vi...
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Russell Brown | 451 c184WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this debate. Does she agree that given the plight of many ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c183-4WH (Link to this contribution) I shall just make a little progress. At least 150,000 people are affected by what has happened at F...
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David Leslie Taylor | 451 c183WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c187WH (Link to this contribution) Those rescue packages are indeed welcome, but hamper firms must have stringent regulations imposed o...
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Bob Spink | 451 c187WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady pay tribute to the work of the citizens advice bureaux? She will no doubt accept ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c187WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman on the last point. I congratulate the citizens advice bureaux on the...
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Tom Brake | 451 c187WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that, if such voluntary measures are not effective, the best way to secure ...
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Chris Ruane | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend. I suggest a further source of funding: dormant bank accounts. There are bill...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, on that point, then I must make some progress.
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Denis Murphy | 451 c187WH (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that there has been a little good news this morning with the announcement by...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c186-7WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friends are coming up with creative ways to find the money, as I would expect. As long as th...
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Chris Ruane | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way on that point?
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c186WH (Link to this contribution) That sounds like a very interesting way forward, and I am sure that the Minister will consider it.
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c187-8WH (Link to this contribution) There are 47 shopping days until Christmas, and we need to get on with this as quickly as possible. ...
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Ian McCartney | 451 c210WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my colleagues for the debate and the support, and I ask hon. Members to go back to their con...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c188WH (Link to this contribution) I think that that is a rhetorical question. I certainly would not.
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Eric Joyce | 451 c188WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend might be aware that Sir Clive Thompson is also a director of iSoft, which is attracti...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c188WH (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and I am about to turn to that issue. We must provide...
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Tom Clarke | 451 c188WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her excellent leadership and for introducing the debate. Althoug...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c196WH (Link to this contribution) I very much agree. As other hon. Members said, HBOS’s vast profits dwarf the losses of the people wh...
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Michael Connarty | 451 c196WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not find it ironic that probably he along with myself, other Members of the ...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c196WH (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether I can accompany the hon. Gentleman, but he is right: the champagne at that eve...
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Speaker | 451 c196WH (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind hon. Members that we are very short of time. We may be down to about two minutes eac...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention and hope that the Minister answers the question. What is the ro...
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Madeleine Moon | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) HBOS stated that it had accommodated Farepak on many occasions to allow its management every opportu...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) Whatever the legalities of HBOS’s role, its activities in this murky scandal have been morally highl...
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Michael Moore | 451 c196WH (Link to this contribution) Is not the response of HBOS staggering? It has taken a legalistic route, but not only are people den...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The agents are among the most responsible people in this cou...
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Oliver Letwin | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) Given the intervention by the hon. Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant), will the Minister clarify the ...
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Brian Iddon | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will know that Findel plc is quoted as indicating that the rescue package would be £1...
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Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that once the matter has been fully investigated, either civil or criminal...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right; that should follow. The Secretary of State has announced that th...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c188-9WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right; a cheque from one of my constituents was cashed 15 minutes before the admin...
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Wayne David | 451 c188WH (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that Farepak continued receiving money from customers up to 13 October, when...
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Speaker | 451 c191WH (Link to this contribution) Order. I want the summing-up speeches to start at 10.30 am, because I know that the Minister has a g...
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Chris Bryant | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend rightly attributes blame where it should be attributed, but does she understand that ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) It is indeed, but we are talking about even larger sums of up to £45 million. The Minister should lo...
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Mary Creagh | 451 c190WH (Link to this contribution) On Farepak’s business model, does my hon. Friend agree that companies that take money from the very ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c189WH (Link to this contribution) They are indeed. The agents hold their communities together, and have a strong sense of financial pr...
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Fraser Kemp | 451 c190WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. It is essentially on a technicality that such companies are n...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c190WH (Link to this contribution) Absolutely—my hon. Friend is quite right. There is also the issue of the bond. A lot of people wrot...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c190WH (Link to this contribution) That is indeed a loophole that needs to be closed. If the industry is unable to regulate itself—as i...
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Chris Bryant | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) This is an important point. The British Retail Consortium is maintaining that one reason why it cann...
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Malcolm Moss | 451 c191-2WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove) on securing the debate. It is an i...
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Jim McGovern | 451 c193WH (Link to this contribution) I am interested to hear about the various rescue packages—the Big Lottery Fund, Sainsbury’s and so o...
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Andrew Smith | 451 c192-3WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove) on her powerful speech a...
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Malcolm Moss | 451 c192WH (Link to this contribution) I shall not, as I have only a few minutes. It is outrageous that peoples’ savings should be stolen ...
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Michael Connarty | 451 c192WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Danny Alexander | 451 c195WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. One of my constituents was an agent and said that she intended to take it on herself to rep...
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Mark Williams | 451 c194WH (Link to this contribution) I endorse what my hon. Friend says, but does he agree that, particularly among our smaller rural com...
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Danny Alexander | 451 c194WH (Link to this contribution) I join other hon. Members in congratulating the hon. Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove) on se...
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Andrew Smith | 451 c193-4WH (Link to this contribution) I have been critical of the role of HBOS in this affair and we can all think of a worthy destination...
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Denis Murphy | 451 c196-7WH (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Miss Begg. Most of my points have already been covered, but I would like the Minister to ...
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Adam Price | 451 c197WH (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly on that very theme. I congratulate the hon. Member for South Swindon (Anne Sne...
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Ian McCartney | 451 c197WH (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members should talk sense. First, national insurance contributions, if they have been paid—ther...
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Adam Price | 451 c197WH (Link to this contribution) I take the Minister’s point, but if VAT has been paid, clearly the Minister will want to consider ho...
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Mike Weir | 451 c198WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentions the role of HBOS, and we have heard about the roles that many people played....
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Adam Price | 451 c198WH (Link to this contribution) We have heard about the Findel letter. If there is a database, surely the key reason for the BRC’s r...
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Jim Devine | 451 c198WH (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove) for securing this deba...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c190WH (Link to this contribution) I am not looking forward to a Christmas eve when parents in Swindon are faced with explaining why Fa...
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Alasdair McDonnell | 451 c199-200WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate you on your direction of the debate, Miss Begg. It has been a good debate. I congratu...
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Jim Devine | 451 c199WH (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful for the opportunity to join my hon. Friend at that demonstration outside the com...
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Christopher Fraser | 451 c199WH (Link to this contribution) I, like others, have a number of constituents who have been deeply affected by the Farepak escapade ...
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Michael Connarty | 451 c198WH (Link to this contribution) I pay compliments to my hon. Friend and neighbour for the work that he has done on Farepak. He is kn...
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Gordon Banks | 451 c200-1WH (Link to this contribution) Many people in my constituency have been affected by the collapse. One agent has lost £11,000 and is...
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Nia Griffith | 451 c201-2WH (Link to this contribution) It is incomprehensible to me how a company that takes in money a considerable time before it has to ...
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Speaker | 451 c200WH (Link to this contribution) If those who still wish to speak can stick to one minute each, everyone might be able to get in.
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Russell Brown | 451 c200WH (Link to this contribution) I will be as brief as I can, Miss Begg. I have written to two dozen chief executives of high street...
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John Leech | 451 c203WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, in a sense, this fiasco is in the best interests of the hamper indus...
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Baroness Burt of Solihull | 451 c203WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes an extremely important point. the last thing that we want is for people to be dr...
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Baroness Burt of Solihull | 451 c203WH (Link to this contribution) Yes; my hon. Friend makes an important point. The reputation of the hamper industry has been gravely...
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Speaker | 451 c203WH (Link to this contribution) Order. I have to tell the House that the heating cannot be adjusted because of the works outside. Al...
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Madeleine Moon | 451 c202-3WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that all hon. Members must raise awareness of savings and loans facilities ...
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Annette Brooke | 451 c202WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that our constituents, particularly the vulnerable and those who have beha...
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Baroness Burt of Solihull | 451 c202WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I agree that we need action now, and many hon. Members have made po...
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Speaker | 451 c202WH (Link to this contribution) Order. Everyone has been extremely well-disciplined, and I am sorry to the remaining Back Benchers w...
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Baroness Burt of Solihull | 451 c202WH (Link to this contribution) I shall be very brief, Miss Begg. We have had an excellent debate, and I congratulate the hon. Membe...
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Mark Prisk | 451 c203-5WH (Link to this contribution) I, too, add my commendations to the hon. Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove). She has been lea...
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Ian McCartney | 451 c205-8WH (Link to this contribution) Good morning, Miss Begg. I thank all right hon. and hon. Members for participating in what has been ...
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Anne Snelgrove | 451 c210WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the work that he and his Department have done, and give heart...
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Jim McGovern | 451 c209WH (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Ian McCartney | 451 c209-10WH (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my hon. Friend in a minute. I know that Members of all parties donate to charit...
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Jim McGovern | 451 c210WH (Link to this contribution) If that is the only way forward at this point, so be it, but my constituents are not looking for cha...
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Ian McCartney | 451 c210WH (Link to this contribution) I am not asking for charity, but I am not going to go for a quick headline with a comment like that....
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