Debate on Thursday, 30 November 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Joan Ryan. The answering member was Lord Garnier.
Hague Programme
Debate on a motion to take note of European Union documents No 11222/06, Commission communication "Implementing the Hague Programme" and No 11228/06 and related documents. Agreed on division (275 to 130).
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- 453 c1252-79
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- 2006-07
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Speaker | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. and learned Member replies to that intervention, I should say that the term “...
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Nia Griffith | 453 c1272-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the motion and I understand why member states have little enthusiasm for the proposed use ...
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Ian Davidson | 453 c1273 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, as well as a system of identifying such people, we also need to be a...
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Nia Griffith | 453 c1273-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting point, but we would have to be very careful when it came to defi...
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Wayne David | 453 c1274-5 (Link to this contribution) On the whole, I welcome the Hague programme. It offers a practical approach to many problems facing ...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1275-6 (Link to this contribution) With leave of the House, I should like to reply to the debate, which has been useful and comes at a ...
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David TC Davies | 453 c1273 (Link to this contribution) Rather than having an EU-wide registration system, it would be far simpler to keep such people in pr...
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Michael Connarty | 453 c1265 (Link to this contribution) My hon. colleague from Caerphilly in Wales, in fact. Commissioner Frattini said:"““However, I still ...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1265 (Link to this contribution) I do not agree with the views my hon. Friend is expressing on the European evidence warrant, but I a...
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Michael Connarty | 453 c1266 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point. There is an accused who has been arrested and charged with a crime. No one has ...
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William Cash | 453 c1262 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. and learned Friend note—the hon. Member for Somerton and Frome (Mr. Heath) might also w...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1262-3 (Link to this contribution) The problem is that, when the Minister gives oral evidence, she says one thing, but when she gets ba...
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Speaker | 453 c1263 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind hon. Members that we have approximately 45 minutes left in the debate? If Member...
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Michael Connarty | 453 c1264-5 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the House authorities on allowing this debate on the Floor of the House within two we...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1267 (Link to this contribution) Is not the hon. Gentleman making the same mistake as the Minister by ignoring the extent to which we...
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Mark Hunter | 453 c1266-7 (Link to this contribution) We on the Liberal Democrat Benches welcome the opportunity to have this debate today, not least beca...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 453 c1269-70 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, if one imports large numbers of skilled and talented people, that will be beneficial in t...
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William Cash | 453 c1270-2 (Link to this contribution) The debate has reminded me of a part of ““Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland””. The mock turtle’s buck...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 453 c1269 (Link to this contribution) The Government made a profound mistake in not instituting the same provisions as other member states...
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Wayne David | 453 c1269 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend not at least acknowledge that the migrants who have come to Britain have made a ...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 453 c1269 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. When I came here today, I was somewhat concerned about the motion and the provisi...
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Ian Davidson | 453 c1269 (Link to this contribution) Given our inability to restrict the number of people in various categories who arrive from Romania a...
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Ian Davidson | 453 c1268 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that the constitution should not be slipped in through the back door. Does t...
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Mark Hunter | 453 c1268 (Link to this contribution) We have already indicated that there are legitimate areas of debate, and I think that my contributio...
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Mark Hunter | 453 c1267-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the right hon. Gentleman’s intervention, but I do not agree with his point of view...
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Speaker | 453 c1252 (Link to this contribution) Before I call the Minister, I should make it clear to Members that in the final sentence of the moti...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) As I will not rule out debate at the Justice and Home Affairs Council of the European Union, I certa...
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Speaker | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman’s point is entirely a matter for debate.
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William Cash | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Will you consider the fact that we are having a debate th...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) The fact that the right hon. Gentleman says that we are contemplating this does not mean that we are...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 453 c1253 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way so early in her speech. I agree with her comments so far. Does...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1252-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House takes note of European Union Documents Nos. 11222/06, Commission Comm...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) On the important issue of switching justice and home affairs to majority voting, when the Minister g...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1254-5 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that much of today’s debate will focus on that issue, but as the hon. Gentleman will be aw...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1253 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will be aware that we have freedom of movement within the European Union. If I unders...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1257 (Link to this contribution) Anyone reading the motion on the Order Paper could be forgiven for thinking that it says it all. Unf...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1256 (Link to this contribution) I think that I have been clear. We do not expect the debate on the use of the passerelle to go any f...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1256 (Link to this contribution) In answer to my previous question about switching justice and home affairs to majority voting, the M...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1256 (Link to this contribution) The Justice and Home Affairs Council will meet next Monday and Tuesday, and this is on the agenda. A...
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David Heath | 453 c1256 (Link to this contribution) Has the Minister just restated what it says in the motion—that the Government’s position is"““that t...
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Wayne David | 453 c1255 (Link to this contribution) If the Government believe that the debate about the passerelle is over, surely every debate has a co...
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David Heath | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I admire the hon. and learned Gentleman’s reference to the molluscan tendencies of the Government in...
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William Cash | 453 c1257-8 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. and learned Friend accept that the root of the problem is that the Government are, in a...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is right, but I would encapsulate the problem thus: we simply cannot a...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister wishes to intervene.
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I was simply wondering whether the hon. and learned Gentleman was going to pay attention to what Mad...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I am making a speech, so I tend to prepare for, and to listen, to what I am about to say. I am payin...
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David Heath | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful. I will ask him not another question, but the same question: does he agree with the wo...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) I had thought, Madam Deputy Speaker, that it was a perfectly ordinary English word in common usage, ...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1258 (Link to this contribution) Are you contradicting her?
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. and learned Friend give way on that point?
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) My intentions have nothing to do with zoology, Madam Deputy Speaker. I simply wish to support my hon...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend. We can either abdicate our responsibilities as Members of Parliam...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) But I am a usual suspect.
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Keith Vaz | 453 c1260-1 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for missing the hon. and learned Gentleman’s opening remarks. I am just trying to be cle...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) I had hoped that I had already made it clear, but let me try again. The issue that we are concerned ...
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Keith Vaz | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. and learned Gentleman give way?
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1259-60 (Link to this contribution) My parliamentary neighbour has only just arrived for the debate, which lasts only an hour and a half...
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Ian Davidson | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) Following on from the comments by my right hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, East and Brussels (...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) As long as the right hon. Gentleman promises not to refer to any form of spineless behaviour.
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) Well, if he would like to—
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Ian Davidson | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) I must point out to the hon. and learned Gentleman that that is not the kind of answer that I find h...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1262 (Link to this contribution) I feel suitably chastised. I am now so terrified of allowing any other interventions that I shall al...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1262 (Link to this contribution) I want to make the point, before the hon. and learned Gentleman’s assertion is repeated so often tha...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1262 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that they are not just my concerns; they are the concerns of the Minister’s right hon. a...
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Keith Vaz | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) He wants to be that Minister.
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Nia Griffith | 453 c1273 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but I cannot comment on the Polish judicial system ...
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Speaker | 453 c1259 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have already made a ruling that would cover both those words.
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) I am being bamboozled by so many hon. Members inviting me to give way. Perhaps I should finish my co...
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William Cash | 453 c1254 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that most people would regard what she is saying as an extremely good idea,...
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Joan Ryan | 453 c1256-7 (Link to this contribution) I have dealt with those points, so I shall carry on with my remarks. The debate at EU level has bee...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1258-9 (Link to this contribution) I was about to answer the hon. Gentleman’s question when Madam Deputy Speaker quite properly brought...
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Lord Garnier | 453 c1261 (Link to this contribution) By having a Conservative Government and a Conservative Minister who would represent the interests of...
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