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Debate on bill on Monday, 5 February 2007, in the House of Lords.

Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill

Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill. Lords Report stage. Part 1 of 2 records.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
689 c497-544 
Session
2006-07
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
Government defeats
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c544 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion I sugges...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was waiting to see whether I would be corrected.
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Lord Goldsmith | 689 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was part way through what I was saying when I answered the questions from the noble and ...
Lord Henley | 689 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord did not convince me and I suspect he did not convince himself. ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c529 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not like to intervene in this way, but this is Report stage. Members should make only...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 689 c528-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I am not out of order but I do not believe the noble and learned Lord answered me. ...
Lord Henley | 689 c529 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have every intention of respecting the usual conventions. I had thought that the noble a...
Lord Ramsbotham | 689 c531 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: Clause 2, page 3, line 18, at end insert— ““““custody”” includes being h...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c531 (Link to this contribution) moved AmendmentNo. 6: 6: Clause 2, page 3, leave out lines 32 to 34 On Question, amendment agreed...
Lord Hoyle | 689 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend on this amendment because it goes to the heart ofthe Bill. I mus...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 689 c537 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: After Clause 2 , insert the following new Clause— ““Aiding and abetting ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 689 c536-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that very comprehensive response to the amendment, but he repe...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the issue of compensation is wider than the subject of the Bill. I do not think that that ...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 689 c535 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was a commissioner at the time of the ““Herald of Free Enterprise”” disaster. As I under...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c533-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, and the noble Lord, Lord Hoyle, for thei...
Lord Henley | 689 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Government will not accept this amendment. We on these Benches cannot offe...
Lord James of Blackheath | 689 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have all missed the presence of the noble Baroness, Lady Scotland, throughout this proc...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 689 c539-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name appears on this amendment and Amendment No. 47, with which it is grouped. Amendmen...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 689 c537-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is beyond reason to imagine that the board could not have considered a rapid turnaround...
Lord Hoyle | 689 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment, to which has been added my name and the name of the...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 689 c543 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would be most grateful if the Minister would allow me to ask a question. Is he saying th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c542-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is Report. We have been tolerant, but perhaps the noble Lord will let me develop my a...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 689 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that response, but he will not be surprised to learn that I am...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c543 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Governments at all times reflect on issues that have been raised in debate, and I am sure ...
Lord Whitty | 689 c541 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene in this debate, as I have been unable to take part since Second Re...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 689 c541-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, earlier, we considered whether there should be a new offence that would apply to individua...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 689 c544 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11: 11: Clause 3 , page 3, line 43, leave out ““or (b)”” and insert ““(b) or (...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 689 c544 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: Clause 3 , page 3, line 46, leave out ““or (b)”” and insert ““(b) or (...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c544 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 14and 15: 14: Clause 3 , page 4, leave out lines 6 to 8 15: Clause 3 , pag...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 689 c500-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have one comment to make. The noble and learned Lord knows as well as I do that there is...
Lord Razzall | 689 c500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join in with the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. This topic caused significant con...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 689 c499-500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much welcome the Government’s U-turn on this whole question of unincorporated bodie...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c501 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Schedule 1 , page 15, line 34, at end insert— ““National School of Gover...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 689 c509-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know of a case that would point to the conclusion made by the Joint Committee. I ...
Lord Dear | 689 c513 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. I shall be brief because all the points that I would have wished ...
Lord Dholakia | 689 c511-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, has set out a very powerful case. The amendment to bring ...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 689 c507 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this issue should not be a test of one’s political beliefs. A powerful and convincing case...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 689 c507 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a signatory to those reports, I want to say a few words. I wholly support the amendment...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 689 c508-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Lee of Trafford, but I support the Governmen...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 689 c507-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendments Nos. 3, 5, 11, 13 and 21 with which I am linked. These Benches very ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 689 c501-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 2 , page 2, line 34, at end insert— ““(d) a duty owed to anyone h...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that, in any event, soldiers would be employees covered by Clause 2(1)(a). I am ...
Lord Henley | 689 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not quite sure what the noble and learned Lord the Attorney-General believes because ...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c527 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, yes it is. Clause 3(2) would exclude it only if what it was doing was done in the exercise...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 689 c527 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful but I have just one more question. The Army obviously organises goods and se...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c526-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I want to clarify how the Bill will operate. Having looked at what has been said be...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 689 c527 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord. I think that we are looking at the inter...
Lord Henley | 689 c525-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: 4: Clause 2 , page 2, line 34, at end insert— ““(e) a duty owed to members ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 689 c522 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all those who spoke about these amendments so powerfully and wisely. I am particul...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c522 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that option is being offered to me although I thank the noble Lord for his ...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 689 c521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can sum up my question in few words. Although the noble and learned Lord rejects liabili...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will give way to the noble Viscount after I have made this point. The noble Lord, Lord I...
Viscount Bledisloe | 689 c521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to have another try at getting an answer to the question put a moment ago ab...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in lifting immunity for the first time in certain circumstances to submit the Crown to cri...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I recognise the strength of feeling that has been expressed with complete sincerity by all...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 689 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to interrupt my noble and learned friend when he is moving on to his next point...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c520-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am certainly not saying that anybody is above the law. I am describing the effect of the...
Lord Imbert | 689 c513-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I regret that I was unable to be in your Lordships’ House at Second Reading, for which I a...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 689 c516-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a partner in a national commercial firm of solicitors, Beechcroft...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 689 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to intervene in this debate, and so far have not done so in the course ...
Lord Judd | 689 c505-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I warmly support this amendment, moved so comprehensively and convincingly by the noble Lo...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 689 c531-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: 7: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Offence by member of ...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c501 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I am grateful for the general welcome that the amendment has received. One stands h...
Lord Goldsmith | 689 c497-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Clause 1 , page 1, line 11, leave out from ““force”” to end of line 13 a...
Lord Judd | 689 c509 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder how far my noble and learned friend’s conclusions have been informed by the case ...
Notes
Correction made in Lords Minute of 6 February 2007 - in Division No. 2 Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers should not have been recorded as voting content. Correction made in Lords Minute of 19 February 2007 - in Division No. 2 Lord Kalms should have been recorded as voting content.
Subjects
Death Companies Crown immunity Custodial treatment Corporate manslaughter Liability Homicide Health and safety Employers' associations Prosecutions Prisoners Management Public bodies Staff Young offenders Trade unions Mubarek, Zahid
Legislation
Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill 2005-06 to 2006-07
Link
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