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Legislative debate on Tuesday, 26 February 2008, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was Robert Neill.

Local Government

Draft SI on Cheshire (Structural Changes). Debate on a motion to approve. Objection taken. Division deferred to 27 February. Agreed to on division (278 votes to 151).

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
472 c1041-63 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Deferred division
Wednesday, 27 February 2008
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Cheshire (Structural Changes) Order 2008
Thursday, 31 January 2008
Statutory instruments
House of Commons
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 472 c1138 (Link to this contribution) I now have to announce the result of the Division deferred from the previous day. On the draft Ches...
John Healey | 472 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I should like to reply. Tonight we have heard views...
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Speaker | 472 c1062 (Link to this contribution) Order. I shall call Mr. Andrew Stunell if he respects the fact that I need to call the Minister in o...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c1061 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, given the length of time for which the hon. Gentleman spoke. However, he put hi...
Ann Winterton | 472 c1061 (Link to this contribution) Most of the major points have already been made, but I should like to say a few words on behalf of m...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I am downcast and very disappointed. It is clear that there was no demand for this measure. There h...
Mike Hall | 472 c1061 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I shall be extremely brief in the hope that my hon. Friend and neighbour the Member for Congleton (A...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 472 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I can tell the hon. Gentleman that the measure is subject to a three-line Whip.
Ann Winterton | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) May I tell the Minister that in fact what he has just said is absolutely untrue in that the people o...
John Healey | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the draft Cheshire (Structural Changes) Order 2008, which was laid before this H...
Stephen O'Brien | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister in effect disowning responsibility for the proposal and saying that he is no more th...
John Healey | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady checks the record tomorrow she will find that precisely what I said is correct—that...
John Healey | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) Far from disowning the proposal, I come to the House with an order that proposes to put in place the...
George Osborne | 472 c1042 (Link to this contribution) The Minister drew a comparison with the ways that previous Governments had handled local government ...
John Healey | 472 c1042 (Link to this contribution) Cheshire was in a relatively unusual situation compared with other parts of the country. Not only we...
Speaker | 472 c1042 (Link to this contribution) Order. Members must cease intervening from a sedentary position. If they want to intervene, they sho...
John Healey | 472 c1042 (Link to this contribution) Let me be clear. My Department certainly proposed the process and invited councils in two-tier areas...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is being disingenuous, to say the least. Why is he not proud of the arrangement that he...
Simon Hughes | 472 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I am obviously not a Cheshire MP, but I was born in Cheshire. Let me express a concern that I sense ...
John Healey | 472 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Because we set out in this process to approach the matter in an entirely different way—to be prepare...
John Healey | 472 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I will get the chance to come to that a little later. However, that is not the assessmen...
John Healey | 472 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution) Since I got to my feet, I have spent more time dealing with interventions than making the remarks I ...
Nicholas Winterton | 472 c1044 (Link to this contribution) There are seven Members from Cheshire who would like to contribute briefly to this debate, which is ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 472 c1045 (Link to this contribution) At the risk of upsetting the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Sir Nicholas Winterton), may I draw the M...
John Healey | 472 c1044 (Link to this contribution) The prospect of any change can be distracting, disruptive and unsettling. That is certainly the case...
Robert Neill | 472 c1043-4 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister help me on this point? If it is the case that the benefits are so obvious, why did ...
John Healey | 472 c1044 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has followed this matter closely from the outset, and throughout previous years. He m...
Mike Hall | 472 c1044 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend said earlier that Opposition Members wanted the status quo. The status quo in Cheshir...
John Healey | 472 c1045 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Crewe and Nantwich makes an important point and helps me to make the n...
Andrew Miller | 472 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman accept from me that Ellesmere Port and Neston borough council's all-party po...
Robert Neill | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) I have no reason at all to dispute what the hon. Gentleman says, but since we are dealing with the w...
John Healey | 472 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) The figures and main conclusions of the independent assessment were set out—my hon. Friend just read...
Christine Russell | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) May I tell the hon. Gentleman that in 2002, following a report by the boundary committee for England...
Speaker | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) Order. The answer is no. Speeches must be short tonight and interventions must be much shorter.
Mike Hall | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has criticised the Government's approach, but what is his solution for Cheshire: ...
Robert Neill | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) Many people would say that if the consultation was genuine, it is surprising that there should have ...
Robert Neill | 472 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a bit of progress. I have let the hon. Gentleman intervene once, but if he will be qu...
Mike Hall | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Robert Neill | 472 c1047 (Link to this contribution) I would have thought that the hon. Lady would make my point. If there was such a divergence of opini...
Mike Hall | 472 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman that enhanced two-tier working was an option until Cheshire county c...
Robert Neill | 472 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I am going to let people from the county respond to that one, while I get on with making the simple ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 472 c1048-51 (Link to this contribution) I was astonished at the way in which the Minister introduced this order. Whichever way we look at it...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 472 c1051 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend chooses to ignore the majority of the ratepayers of Cheshire on the grounds that they...
Dan Rogerson | 472 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) My remarks are to be directed at the issue of time scales, and with that in mind I shall try to keep...
Andrew Miller | 472 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. I want to correct some inaccuracies. A number of hon. Members have said ““in Chesh...
Dan Rogerson | 472 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution) My concern is that these are two new authorities, and some councillors who are elected to the shadow...
Mike Hall | 472 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) First, I thank the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Sir Nicholas Winterton) for the way in which he has...
Nicholas Winterton | 472 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) First, I wish to thank the Minister for the courtesy that he extended to me during the consultation ...
George Osborne | 472 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, a Conservative group on Chester city council made different proposals from those...
Christine Russell | 472 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) In view of the time, I shall make a few quick points that have not been made by colleagues. I hope I...
George Osborne | 472 c1058 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but briefly, because I want to give the hon. Lady a chance to speak.
Christine Russell | 472 c1058 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Gentleman that when Chester city council made its bid in January 2007, there was a...
George Osborne | 472 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall keep my remarks brief because two of my Conservative colleagues and the hon. Member for City...
Lord Stunell | 472 c1062 (Link to this contribution) I shall take only that minute, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The financial and community cases do not stand u...
Christine Russell | 472 c1042 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that the bid of January 2007 was submitted by Chester city council on be...
John Healey | 472 c1041 (Link to this contribution) The city of Chester first submitted the proposal; it was enjoined and is now supported by three othe...
Robert Neill | 472 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I am conscious of the number of right hon. and hon. Members who wish to participate in this debate a...
Christine Russell | 472 c1052 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Gentleman that there are joint implementation teams in Cheshire that include offic...
Subjects
Local government Reorganisation Unitary councils Cheshire
Legislation
Cheshire (Structural Changes) Order 2008
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