Debate on Thursday, 11 June 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Smith of Basildon. The answering member was Lord Willetts.
Social Mobility and the Professions
Debate on a motion that this House has considered the matter of social mobility and the professions. [Relevant document: The uncorrected transcript of oral evidence taken before the Children, Schools and Families Committee on 8 June 2009, on Social Mobility, HC 624-i.]
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 493 c977-1024
- Session
- 2008-09
- Department
- Cabinet Office
- Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Related items
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Social mobility. Evidence 8 June 2009.
Monday, 8 June 2009
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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David Lammy | 493 c987 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will recognise that Britain had 10 successive years of growth. That situation was...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c986 (Link to this contribution) There are, of course, a range of reasons why young people are NEET, but I was quoting OECD figures t...
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David Lammy | 493 c986 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows, because we have had this debate before, that all of us, across the House, ...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) Well, we hope so. We will have an unusual development this summer, which will see the toughest recru...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c987 (Link to this contribution) I have had this conversation with Professor Pring, and I want to make a further point about NEETs in...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c987 (Link to this contribution) I did not follow the Minister's point, either, but I probably misunderstood because I am sitting dir...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c987 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I do not follow the Minister's point.
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Lord Willetts | 493 c985 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, and that is why we propose, as a temporary measure, that extra postgraduate...
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David Lammy | 493 c985 (Link to this contribution) The Government are committed to growth in postgraduate education along the lines that the hon. Gentl...
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Mark Field | 493 c985 (Link to this contribution) It is also perhaps worth stressing that that applies not only to young people leaving school, but to...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c990 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises a very important point, but what is his view on the solution that the pane...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c988-90 (Link to this contribution) I accept that. That is why the Government's various changes to the careers service over the past 10 ...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) We support apprenticeships, but part of the problem is the new broader definition of apprenticeships...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c991 (Link to this contribution) We are enjoying what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but is not the real gap between the traditional t...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c987 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for explaining his position, but he has misrepresented the Gover...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c987-8 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that children's opportunities can or should be determined by their experience in the ...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c988 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a fascinating speech, but all the research done by the Select Committee...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c998 (Link to this contribution) I fear that Quentin Letts will have another go at me for making this point. Let us look at the diver...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c997-8 (Link to this contribution) It is important in these debates to ensure that the emphasis is on all groups and not just on some. ...
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John Hayes | 493 c997 (Link to this contribution) Does not that tie in closely with the point made by the Chairman of the Children, Schools and Famili...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c995-7 (Link to this contribution) Oh happy days! Yes, I do, and I also well remember my hon. Friend's championing of Peninsula's cause...
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Linda Gilroy | 493 c995 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to have missed the early part of the debate. I will read it in Hansard and examine the de...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c995 (Link to this contribution) When I compare my kids' experiences and life chances with those of my childhood, it shows that we ar...
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John Hayes | 493 c994 (Link to this contribution) I am so excited by the right hon. Gentleman's speech, and the one that preceded it, that I am oblige...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c994-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is on to a very important point. One thing that I am absolutely convinced about, ...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c991-4 (Link to this contribution) It is always a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Havant (Mr. Willetts). At some points in...
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John Hayes | 493 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I was making the point not that that is a bad thing, but that it is a good thing that is largely the...
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Jenny Willott | 493 c1004-8 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, and I think that parents have a very important role to play in that. They may want a lot...
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John Hayes | 493 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I promise that this is my last intervention, because it might eat into my own time, and that would b...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c998-1001 (Link to this contribution) That is a slightly more contentious point. Is it time for my hon. Friend to leave? We know that whe...
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Jenny Willott | 493 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a daunting prospect to follow such a knowledgeable and interesting speech from the right hon. ...
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John Hayes | 493 c1002 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, the hon. Lady might go further: I would go so far as to say that the expansion of university...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c998 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I have a feeling it will be coming my hon. Friend's way. I guess that we knew that, although i...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c998 (Link to this contribution) I recently wrote an article in the Fabian Review that gave me some notoriety. In it, I pointed out t...
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John Bercow | 493 c980 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with respect to the Minister. The Minister for Higher Education and Intellectual Prop...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c980 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree; the hon. Gentleman will know that the matter was raised several times in Committee...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c977-80 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of social mobility and fair access to the p...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c980 (Link to this contribution) The Minister referred to the report being published in the summer. That has been the official positi...
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Mark Field | 493 c983 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady not feel that the emphasis—or, it might be argued, over-emphasis—on aspirations a...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c983 (Link to this contribution) I am puzzled by the hon. Gentleman's point, although I accept that he means it well, in that the two...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) I welcome both the Minister to her new responsibilities, which include this important subject of soc...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. I think that "summer" was a fair representation, although we ...
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Mark Field | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the hon. Lady has just started that section of her speech, but will she give at le...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point. Many professions recognise that if they are to attract the b...
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John Hayes | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) I want to ask the hon. Lady a question, and to do so without prejudice. To what extent has graduate ...
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Alan Milburn | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful not to be told what to do by my hon. Friend. If it helps the hon. Member for Havant (M...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c981 (Link to this contribution) That is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Member for Darlington. It is not my report or my panel...
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John Hayes | 493 c1013-8 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to take part in this debate on this important subject. Like the right hon. Member for...
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Brooks Newmark | 493 c1010-3 (Link to this contribution) Like my hon. Friend the Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker), I was not expecting to speak in this deb...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c1022-3 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister has looked at the evidence—I believe that the right hon. Member for Darl...
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David Lammy | 493 c1018-22 (Link to this contribution) This has been a tough few weeks for the House of Commons, but I think it right to say that this deba...
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Charles Walker | 493 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) This is a truly uplifting debate. I was wondering what I would do in Parliament today, and I looked ...
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Charles Walker | 493 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention, and I totally agree with that philosophy. I should like...
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Brooks Newmark | 493 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and is referring to a philosophy in which I have always bel...
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David Lammy | 493 c1023-4 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the description that the hon. Gentleman gives. However, I shall not anticipate the repor...
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Lord Willetts | 493 c991 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree, and have nothing to add to that excellent comment. It is one reason why we, thro...
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Barry Sheerman | 493 c995 (Link to this contribution) I am fascinated by my right hon. Friend's work in listening to young people. Our Committee has also ...
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Jenny Willott | 493 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) There is an argument for that. Some of the statistics on graduate training show that that has led to...
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Jenny Willott | 493 c1003-4 (Link to this contribution) There is certainly a class divide in which children go to university and the universities to which t...
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Baroness Smith of Basildon | 493 c981-3 (Link to this contribution) The panel will be looking at, and making recommendations on, precisely those issues. The extent of s...
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- Access Disadvantaged Finance Education Professions Public expenditure Universities Schools Training Young people Social class Social mobility
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