Debate on bill on Tuesday, 21 July 2009, in the House of Commons.
Parliamentary Standards Bill
Parliamentary Standards Bill. Programme motion (No. 2) on proceedings on consideration of Lords amendments and any subsequent stages. Agreed to on division (237 votes to 120). Consideration of Lords amendments. Lords amendments 1 to 31 agreed to, with an amendment to amendment 1 negatived on division (82 votes to 276).
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 496 c766-88
- Session
- 2008-09
- Department
- Ministry of Justice
- Legislative stage
- Lords amendments
- Procedure
- Programme motions
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Related items
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Parliamentary Standards Bill. Lords amendments. Explanatory Notes Bill 146-EN also published.
Monday, 20 July 2009
Bills
House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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William Cash | 496 c770 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment (a) to Lords amendment 1.
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Speaker | 496 c770 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Lords amendments 2 to 31. The Bill has re...
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Lord Cormack | 496 c770 (Link to this contribution) I do not for a minute dissent from what my hon. Friend is saying. He is moving an important amendmen...
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William Cash | 496 c774 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that important point. If the Justice Secreta...
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Mark Field | 496 c774 (Link to this contribution) The uncertainty that my hon. Friend has expressed in great detail should worry all of us. Does he ag...
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William Cash | 496 c774 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. In conclusion, this is a very important matter. It affects the sovereignty of the House, and...
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Jack Straw | 496 c774 (Link to this contribution) I hope it will be for the convenience of the House, particularly in view of the shortage of time—[Ho...
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William Cash | 496 c771-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. and learned Friend. I am not going to disagree with him on that point...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 496 c773 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend taken note of the fact that the treaty of Lisbon, if ratified, will extend the co...
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William Cash | 496 c773 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree. It was extremely disappointing to read both the Attorney-General's letter and he...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c773 (Link to this contribution) Although the Attorney-General was pretty categoric, she was not absolutely categoric. She said that"...
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Dominic Grieve | 496 c771 (Link to this contribution) I shall cheerfully support my hon. Friend's amendment if it is put to the vote, but I have one quest...
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William Cash | 496 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more with my hon. Friend. The entire proceedings on this Bill have been conducted ...
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Jack Straw | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) The usual channels. The right hon. Gentleman knows that answer.
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Lord Cormack | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Jack Straw | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) I agree, as it happens. I hope that the Committee that we agreed last night to set up under the chai...
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Lord Young of Cookham | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) Whose idea was it to restrict this debate to 60 minutes?
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My understanding is that "Erskine May" refers to a programm...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Jack Straw | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) No, I shall proceed. Everyone knows how the arrangements are made.
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Robert Smith | 496 c775 (Link to this contribution) Reverting to the right hon. Gentleman's opening remarks about the time allowed for this debate, it s...
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Jack Straw | 496 c774-5 (Link to this contribution) I commend the spokesman for the Scottish National party, who, if I may say so at the risk of damagin...
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Angus Robertson | 496 c774 (Link to this contribution) There were more than three parties.
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Jack Straw | 496 c777 (Link to this contribution) Remote, says the hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve). If they did, the prospect of...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) There is no doubt that the charter of fundamental rights, if incorporated into the treaties, would c...
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Philip Davies | 496 c778 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Jack Straw | 496 c778 (Link to this contribution) No. I am sorry, but I need to make progress. On the second point, about the jurisdiction of the Eur...
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Jack Straw | 496 c776 (Link to this contribution) The amendments that were made in the other place are a reflection of the effectiveness of a bicamera...
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Speaker | 496 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) I am not aware whether any Committee has sat, but I rather doubt it. The plain fact of the matter is...
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Jack Straw | 496 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept that the sanctions are not tough—but there is the issue of how that is achieved. As ...
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Angus Robertson | 496 c776 (Link to this contribution) When the Justice Secretary began the process of discussions with all the parties, which I very much ...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) I understand my hon. Friend's point, which he has made strongly. I sense that he wishes to push his ...
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William Cash | 496 c781 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend referred to what I was trying to do. I simply make the point that the "notwithstandin...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c781 (Link to this contribution) Thanks to our hard work, my right hon. Friend will be able to advance all those arguments when the s...
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David Heathcoat-Amory | 496 c781 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the Opposition has announced a quango hunt. Has my hon. Friend noticed that the sectio...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) At the risk of annoying the House, I shall put €10 on it now. I am pleased that the Government acce...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c779-80 (Link to this contribution) We are asked to consider the amendments made in another place. May I say at the outset, before I go ...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c780 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend recall the words of the Justice Secretary? He said that he was prepared to wager...
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Jack Straw | 496 c778-9 (Link to this contribution) No, I am going to stop there. It is open to us as a sovereign Parliament to denounce our subscripti...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c784 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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David Heath | 496 c783-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman needs to look at Lords Hansard from yesterday, where he will find the amendment f...
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Bernard Jenkin | 496 c784 (Link to this contribution) There are circumstances.
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David Heath | 496 c784 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I do not have time to take an intervention. Other people still wish to speak, and we...
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David Heath | 496 c782 (Link to this contribution) May I first concur with the views of my hon. Friend the Member for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine...
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Lord Cormack | 496 c782 (Link to this contribution) Twelve minutes left.
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David Heath | 496 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) It is not my fault that there are 12 minutes left—I wish it were otherwise. The Bill initially had ...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c783 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the hon. Gentleman's party voted against a full sunset clause—or at least ar...
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Jack Straw | 496 c782 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman acknowledge the point, which I made to Sir Christopher and his colleagues wh...
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Alan Duncan | 496 c782 (Link to this contribution) In the Secretary of State's intervention we see the seeds of the very confrontation that Sir Christo...
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Lord Young of Cookham | 496 c786 (Link to this contribution) Whatever peroration I may have been preparing— Debate interrupted (Programme Order, this day) The ...
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Stuart Bell | 496 c784-5 (Link to this contribution) I will be brief, Mr. Deputy Speaker. First, I would like to render the House's significant approbati...
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Lord Young of Cookham | 496 c785 (Link to this contribution) In the very short time left, I want to have a final go at amending the Bill. I invite the Government...
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David Heath | 496 c784 (Link to this contribution) I cannot see any such circumstances; nor could the Attorney-General, according to her very full stat...
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Lord Cormack | 496 c785 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I apologise to my right hon. Friend the Member for North-We...
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Speaker | 496 c785 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that Mr. Speaker will take account of what has been said in this debate.
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Mark Durkan | 496 c785 (Link to this contribution) Does not the right hon. Gentleman's point about Lords amendment 12 also apply to a number of the oth...
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Lord Young of Cookham | 496 c785 (Link to this contribution) If there were more time, the hon. Gentleman would have an opportunity to make his case—
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Jack Straw | 496 c778 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Deputy Speaker, you would not appreciate a discussion on the finer points of the Lisbon treaty j...
- Subjects
- Conduct Allowances Bill of Rights House of Commons EU law Members Members' interests Parliament Parliamentary privilege Sovereignty Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority Sunset clauses
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- Parliamentary Standards Bill 2008-09
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