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Queen's speech debate on Thursday, 27 May 2010, in the House of Lords, led by Lord McNally. The answering member was Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

Queen's Speech

Lords debate on Queen's speech (third day) on home, legal and constitutional affairs and local government.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
719 c133-246 
Session
2010-12
Department
Home Office
Ministry of Justice
Department for Communities and Local Government
Procedure
Addresses to the Crown
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Bichard | 719 c156-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is, I know, the custom of this House for maiden speeches to be short and uncontroversia...
Lord McNally | 719 c134-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there is a look of surprise around the Chamber at seeing me standing here today, I can ...
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Lord Lawson of Blaby | 719 c136 (Link to this contribution) I will intervene if my noble friend will allow me. Actually, I will retract that and let him continu...
Lord McNally | 719 c136 (Link to this contribution) The power of the Whips never ceases to amaze me.
Lord Grocott | 719 c136 (Link to this contribution) If noble Lords are disappointed at not having that intervention, may I suggest this one? Will the no...
Lord McNally | 719 c136 (Link to this contribution) We have had many debates about fixed-term Parliaments, and this is the first example. The noble Lord...
Lord McNally | 719 c136-7 (Link to this contribution) With customary courtesy, the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, gave me notice of that question. I w...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 719 c136 (Link to this contribution) I have a question of which I have given the noble Lord notice. Confusion surrounds the words in the ...
Lord Adonis | 719 c137 (Link to this contribution) On an extremely important point, will the noble Lord say why the coalition is proposing a fixed term...
Lord Richard | 719 c138 (Link to this contribution) I am obliged to the noble Lord for giving way. Perhaps I may ask him a question. Assurances have bee...
Lord McNally | 719 c138 (Link to this contribution) Not this week. It is shorthand for transitional arrangements.
Lord McNally | 719 c137 (Link to this contribution) I hope I get overtime for all this.
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 719 c137-8 (Link to this contribution) I am sure the noble Lord will have many hours of overtime in your Lordships’ House. Can he be more e...
Lord McNally | 719 c137 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that the truth is that we had to start somewhere. We have five-year Parliaments in this co...
Lord McNally | 719 c138 (Link to this contribution) I reply to the noble Lord, Lord Richard, as a once enthusiastic reformer—he will just have to wait a...
Earl of Onslow | 719 c138 (Link to this contribution) I speak as a long-time reformer—and as an elected Peer, I hasten to add. Would not my noble friend r...
Lord McNally | 719 c138 (Link to this contribution) I note what my noble friend said—or, as he told me yesterday he would prefer me to call him, "my nob...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c141-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that the House will learn lessons from that experience. It all looks different f...
Lord Tyler | 719 c143 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord now resile from all the promises made by Mr Gordon Brown before, during and sinc...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c144 (Link to this contribution) Of course not, my Lords. Indeed, the White Paper on Lords reform, for example, could form the basis ...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 719 c144-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am happy to say that I do not feel any embarrassment at speaking in support of the partn...
Lord McNally | 719 c138-9 (Link to this contribution) Don’t go "oh"; you had better to wait to find out who has nominated some of the new Peers. I do not...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c139-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McNally, for opening our debate and congratulate him on his a...
Lord Lucas | 719 c141 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord remember the abolition of the Lord Chancellor? Was that not rather similar?
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 719 c151 (Link to this contribution) It is not 50 per cent plus one; it is a majority of one.
Bishop of Leicester | 719 c148-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as has already been observed, much has changed since we last debated the gracious Speech i...
Lord McNally | 719 c148 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in my capacity as Deputy Leader of the House, perhaps I may say that there are an awful lo...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 719 c154-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I say what considerable pleasure it is for me and those around me to see the noble Lor...
Lord Grocott | 719 c151-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall use my time to talk about matters relating to constitutional change. I must begin ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 719 c151 (Link to this contribution) That seems to me to be much the same thing. I am perfectly happy to accept that formulation: a major...
Lord Woolf | 719 c148 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord asks a very pertinent question at the present time but I am sure he will ...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 719 c147-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps my noble and learned friend will comment on a narrow but important matter of topic...
Lord Woolf | 719 c146-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I first make a disclosure of interest in view of the nature of what I have to say. I have ...
Lord Tope | 719 c167-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by declaring an interest. Three weeks ago today, I was elected councillor for the ...
Lord Thomas of Swynnerton | 719 c165-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with this speech, I hope to join a distinguished club—that of people who thought that they...
Lord McNally | 719 c169 (Link to this contribution) I knew we should have paid a big transfer fee for the noble Baroness, Lady Farrington of Ribbleton. ...
Baroness Whitaker | 719 c169-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will focus on the sentence in the gracious Speech that announces the Bill to, ""devolve ...
Lord McNally | 719 c169 (Link to this contribution) It was eight minutes. Everyone is grabbing one or two minutes, so I remind noble Lords of that.
Lord Filkin | 719 c158-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a delight to welcome an old colleague and friend, the noble Lord, Lord Bichard, to o...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 719 c162-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my congratulations to the noble Lord, Lord Bichard, on his maiden speech. I was a Mi...
Lord St John of Fawsley | 719 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join the noble Lord, Lord Filkin, in congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Bichard, on a s...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 719 c176 (Link to this contribution) If the noble Lord is pleading the case that this is the first Prime Minister to give up the right to...
Lord Tyler | 719 c176 (Link to this contribution) That was not the point that was being made earlier today or on Tuesday. The conventions were referre...
Lord Laird | 719 c177-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise in this debate on the gracious Speech aware of the new political time in which we n...
Lord Tyler | 719 c176-7 (Link to this contribution) I am not yet in a position to give any undertaking on behalf of the Prime Minister. I hope that I wi...
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 719 c175 (Link to this contribution) How could the electorate give a confidence vote to an agreement that was never envisaged at the time...
Lord Tyler | 719 c174-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in expressing delight that my noble friend Lord McNally is sitting where he is, I should a...
Lord Grocott | 719 c175 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. Can the noble Lord confirm that, if the Liberals had always voted with the Labour ...
Lord Norton of Louth | 719 c171-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to address constitutional issues. For reasons of time, I will reserve my detailed c...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 719 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the phrase, "It is better to be right than to be rushed", which guides what I wa...
Baroness Miller of Hendon | 719 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is an old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times". Well, we all are here ...
Lord Armstrong of Ilminster | 719 c192-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are told in the gracious Speech that proposals are to be brought forward, ""for a refor...
Lord Rooker | 719 c189-92 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the new Ministers and I wish the coalition well. In fact, I hope that it wo...
Lord Dholakia | 719 c187-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate gives us an opportunity to look back at the criminal justice system when the C...
Lord Dubs | 719 c185-7 (Link to this contribution) Very quietly. Even Willie Whitelaw had to pause for breath in the middle of the Statement. The brief...
Lord Richard | 719 c179-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is in many ways a special debate on a special day. Quite apart from the fact that it ...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 719 c220 (Link to this contribution) Surely the principle of the moral authority which the noble Earl is talking about is when the Govern...
Earl of Onslow | 719 c220-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all Members of the House of Commons are elected on the Burkean principle: not as delegates...
Lord Lipsey | 719 c221-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall say a few words on electoral reform in general and AV in particular. I speak as a ...
Lord Rennard | 719 c217-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, you see what is wrong with that when you look, for example, at the models of many other Eu...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) I support fixed-term Parliaments but I completely fail to understand what is wrong with a provision ...
Lord Rennard | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to disagree on the basis that if you do not have a percentage like that, you simply ...
Earl of Onslow | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Lord really saying that we should introduce 55 per cent statutorily for one Parliament ...
Lord McNally | 719 c232 (Link to this contribution) She did give me a message—she said, "Jim must be spinning in his grave".
Lord Sanderson of Bowden | 719 c229-31 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with what the noble Lord, Lord Gordon of Strathblane, said in his excellent speech ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c231-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bichard, on this genuinely good maiden speech. He has ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 719 c227-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to address two issues: first, the 55 per cent dissolution trigger; and, secondly, e...
Lord Trefgarne | 719 c226-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask your Lordships to put the following date in your diaries: 3 July 2012. T...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c224-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for what the noble Lord says, but talking of both manifestos being jettisone...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 719 c224 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way but I want to correct him. I was not sugges...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c223-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by congratulating the newly appointed Ministers—in particular, my noble friend Lor...
Lord Lipsey | 719 c223 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord McIntosh, will know, there has been a huge debate among psephologi...
Lord McIntosh of Haringey | 719 c223 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, sits down, I should apologise to him for muttering whi...
Lord Dear | 719 c201-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as other noble Lords have done, I welcome the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Jones, to the F...
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 719 c203-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord McNally, on his appointment. He graces the Front Bench...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 719 c205-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, welcome the new Ministers and congratulate them on their appointments. However, I ...
Lord Goodhart | 719 c207-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, home, legal and constitutional affairs and local government provide enough material for se...
Lord Lucas | 719 c209-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am absolutely delighted to be in coalition with the Liberal Democrats. Over the past 13 ...
Baroness Quin | 719 c211-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, add my congratulations to those noble Lords who have become Ministers in the new G...
Baroness Miller of Hendon | 719 c194-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, of course, it does not include us in this House. What we witnessed in the five days after elec...
Lord Avebury | 719 c198-201 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unlike the noble Lord, Lord Gordon, I particularly welcome the commitment in the gracious ...
Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 719 c196-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after that speech by the noble Baroness, Lady Miller, I should immediately say that I warm...
Lord Rennard | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) Actually, I have not argued that case; I have argued the case for a fixed-term parliament. I think t...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the House will provide some additional injury time for the noble Lord due to the interve...
Lord Rennard | 719 c216-7 (Link to this contribution) It is probably logically necessary that there would have to be a vote of no confidence in the Govern...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord’s point about a fixed term is interesting. He cited with approbation the fixed term f...
Lord Rennard | 719 c217 (Link to this contribution) The answer is no, I was not involved, and I do not know how it came out of the negotiations, but the...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 719 c213-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join others who have so warmly and sincerely congratulated the new Ministers. I also app...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 719 c216 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord goes on, is it not implicit in what is proposed in the coalition agreement tha...
Lord Rennard | 719 c216 (Link to this contribution) Given the public commitments by both coalition parties, that clearly would not happen. The noble and...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c216 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is it not the position that the coalition has more than 55 per cent of the MPs, and theref...
Lord Rennard | 719 c215-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to address the measures announced in the gracious Speech that relate to fixed-term ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c233-4 (Link to this contribution) The noble Earl has got it completely. That is exactly the point. The coalition Government can have a...
Baroness Hamwee | 719 c234-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in our parliamentary new world, I would like to talk about one area of work already traile...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c232-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble Earl, Lord Ferrers, in an excellent speech, mentioned the no confidence vote in 1979. The ...
Earl of Onslow | 719 c233 (Link to this contribution) If the party had more than 55 per cent of the MPs and the Prime Minister wished to call an early ele...
Lord Bach | 719 c236-9 (Link to this contribution) That is precisely the response that I was looking for. I am tempted to sit down now but I cannot bef...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 719 c240-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate on Her Majesty’s gracious Speech has been extremely wide ranging and very stim...
Lord Bach | 719 c236 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have enjoyed a valuable debate on several critical issues that face the country—constit...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 719 c243 (Link to this contribution) I shall not venture into that territory because I do not think that I know the answer to that questi...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 719 c243 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, said that it was implicit in the coalition’s p...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 719 c243 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am certainly beyond my area of knowledge. These are matters of detail and we ought to al...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 719 c243-4 (Link to this contribution) Excuse me, they are. They are the details that surround the general principle and we need to formula...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 719 c245 (Link to this contribution) I ask a question about the operation of the Intelligence and Security Committee, which is an indepen...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 719 c245-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government intend to give the committee greater status, more powers and greater separa...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 719 c243 (Link to this contribution) It seems to me that on Tuesday night David Heath was introducing a new institution into the situatio...
Lord Tyler | 719 c175 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have heard so often from those Benches the expression that the public are in support of ...
Bishop of Bradford | 719 c181-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his humane and humorous introduction. I hope that he will follow ...
Earl of Onslow | 719 c219-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is great to follow the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Bristol. I hope that, unlik...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 719 c149-51 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I consider it a great privilege to follow the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Leicest...
Lord Dubs | 719 c185 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Jones, and the noble Lord, Lord McNa...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 719 c183-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been wondering how on earth to open this speech. For the first time in many years I...
Bishop of Bristol | 719 c218-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, much of this afternoon’s debate on the gracious Speech has focused on constitutional affai...
Lord McNally | 719 c218 (Link to this contribution) Noble Lords are clearly getting a second wind but this is not the Second Reading of a Bill; nor will...
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