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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 11 January 2011, in the House of Lords.


Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords committee stage (sixth day). Schedule 1 amendments considered.


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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
723 c1295-329, c1338-59, c1372-94 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister sits down, perhaps I may first confirm that there will be discussions tomorrow. ...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1347 (Link to this contribution) With respect to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, I have just said that the FLA will not be abolished until...
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Lord Mawhinney | 723 c1346 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend said that she is planning, on behalf of the Government, to discuss with interested p...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1310-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord McNally, on that quick pass to the noble Lord, Lord Ta...
Lord Woolf | 723 c1300-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a while since I first addressed the House with regard to this Bill. I start my prese...
Lord Whitty | 723 c1377-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend’s amendment. The way in which she has constructed her a...
Lord McNally | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one of the advantages of having Hansard and of having my noble friend Lord Taylor sitting ...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 723 c1392-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the speakers who have been impressive, if not overwhelming, for me today. They inc...
Baroness Wilcox | 723 c1388-92 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an amazing debate. I knew that it would take some time, but I hope that the ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1295-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 31 on behalf of my noble friend Lord Bach, I intend also to speak to o...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1295 (Link to this contribution) 31: Schedule 1, page 16, line 24, leave out ““Courts boards.””
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 723 c1356 (Link to this contribution) If the Advisory Council on Libraries is allowed to continue, it may be about to have its finest hour...
Viscount Falkland | 723 c1355-6 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support the noble Baroness on her interesting probing amendment. Over the years, I have sp...
Baroness Whitaker | 723 c1354-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 41 is intended to be a probing amendment. The Advisory Council on Libraries deve...
Baroness Whitaker | 723 c1354 (Link to this contribution) 41: Schedule 1, page 17, line 4, leave out ““Library Advisory Council for England.””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1356-8 (Link to this contribution) It is with a degree of trepidation that I rise to speak on issues of libraries, particularly with my...
Lord Grantchester | 723 c1352 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I compliment the speakers this evening on giving their thoughts on the Inland Waterways Ad...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1354 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. I am sure that the members of the IWAC will have been...
Lord Henley | 723 c1353-4 (Link to this contribution) The Government will always need to have a policy on these and a great deal of other matters, but pol...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 723 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I do not understand. Did my noble friend say that after the British Waterways Board is made an indep...
Lord Henley | 723 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we will come to the final point made by the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, when we get to ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1349 (Link to this contribution) 39: Schedule 1, page 17, line 2, leave out ““Inland Waterways Advisory Council.””
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1348-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her attempt to answer the debate. I have to say that this bit of ...
Lord Berkeley | 723 c1350-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend Lord Faulkner in this amendment. He has outlined the rol...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is something a little different. The purpose of Amendment 39 is to remove the Inland ...
Lord Whitty | 723 c1351-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will pick up from where the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, has just left off. I have a past ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 723 c1351 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment and have little to add to what the noble Lords, Lord Faulkner of ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1347 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, no date is given as to when bodies are to be abolished. Schedule 1 sets out the bodies whe...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1348 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Greaves for his questions. The savings are not a number one priority in...
Lord Greaves | 723 c1347-8 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord tells us whether he is prepared to do that, perhaps I may just pick up on a co...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1347 (Link to this contribution) That part of the Bill will be looked at later, as I have said. With its important functions, it is n...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1346-7 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is Schedule 5; I would like to see Schedule 7 removed from the Bill. It is very difficult to...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1346 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must say that this is a bit of a puzzle because Schedule 1 lists the bodies where power ...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1346 (Link to this contribution) The FLA is not being abolished. I would not like to take any decisions with great rapidity at the Di...
Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 723 c1346 (Link to this contribution) Leaving aside for a moment the wisdom or otherwise of abolishing the body before what is going to ha...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1346 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Mawhinney for that question. As he would know, having been a distinguis...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1345-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Faulkner of Worcester, and the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor of...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1344-5 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend raises a most important point. Even if you take Carlisle United, with the dedication...
Lord Clark of Windermere | 723 c1343-4 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is very perceptive. I am just about to deal with those points. I compliment him on th...
Lord Mawhinney | 723 c1343 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord. He knows my declarable interest and he also knows the very hig...
Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 723 c1344 (Link to this contribution) While my noble friend is on this point and talking about the future, does he agree with the comments...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1344 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure we are all grateful to my noble friends Lord Faulkner of Worcester and Lady Tayl...
Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 723 c1340-1 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend and have attached my name to Amendments 37 and 91. Over recent weeks, sinc...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1338-9 (Link to this contribution) In moving the amendment, I shall speak to Amendment 91, which is grouped with Amendment 37. Both ame...
Lord Clark of Windermere | 723 c1342-3 (Link to this contribution) I intervene briefly to support the amendment of my noble friends Lord Faulkner and Lady Taylor of Bo...
Lord Greaves | 723 c1341-2 (Link to this contribution) I should follow the noble Baroness by admitting that I, too, spend more of my time than is good for ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 723 c1338 (Link to this contribution) 37: Schedule 1, page 16, line 31, leave out ““Football Licensing Authority.””
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1329 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that Answer. I assure him that we are in agreement about not adding the FSA...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 723 c1328-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for tabling this amendment. I know that she has...
Lord Freud | 723 c1319-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments would remove the Disability Living Allowance Advisory Board and t...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 723 c1321 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord responds, I do not want to make too much trouble, but I must say that I did no...
Lord Freud | 723 c1322 (Link to this contribution) I ought to respond to that, especially to the creator of the board. The core point is that these adv...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 723 c1320 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord. Can he tell us how much he is saving by getting rid of it?
Lord Freud | 723 c1320-1 (Link to this contribution) This is not a change being made with any view to making savings because I think that this board does...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1323-6 (Link to this contribution) I realise that putting down an amendment to add something to this hotchpotch Bill may seem perverse ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1326-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Thornton for raising three very substantive matters ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1322-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who spoke in this short but well informed debate. I am do...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1323 (Link to this contribution) 36A: Schedule 1, page 16, line 30, at end insert— ““Food Standards Agency.””
Lord Low of Dalston | 723 c1316-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to say a few words about these two amendments. In so doing, I declare my int...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 723 c1315-6 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendments in my name and that of my noble friend Lord McKenzie. There is not much tha...
Lord McNally | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) That now puts me 3:2 up as regards interventions by the noble Lord, Lord Newton—by that I mean that ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 723 c1311 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may speak briefly to Amendment 40. I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Newton, tha...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 723 c1311 (Link to this contribution) We are, of course, on Amendment 31. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 31 withdrawn. ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1311 (Link to this contribution) 33: Schedule 1, page 16, line 26, leave out ““Disability Living Allowance Advisory Board.””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1311-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 34. These two amendments start life as probing amendments....
Baroness Turner of Camden | 723 c1314-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendments and speak as someone with recent experience of the ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 723 c1315 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not thought of declaring my disability as an interest but, in view of what the noble...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the troublemaker, or one of them, it would be churlish of me not to acknowledge that I ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry but that answer is not compatible with the general approach of this Government and previo...
Lord McNally | 723 c1304-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, said that this Bill was a hospital pass. If anyone wants ...
Lord McNally | 723 c1309 (Link to this contribution) Like the seventh cavalry coming over the hill, my noble friend Lord Taylor nudged me to say that the...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 723 c1302-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am afraid that I cannot claim, like the noble and learned Lord, Lord Woolf, not to have ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 723 c1303-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have to keep it in mind that, at this stage, the Bill seeks to confer powers and does n...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1301-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, that I was not able to be here to hear his speec...
Lord Ramsbotham | 723 c1298-300 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support Amendment 40, which refers to Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Court Admini...
Baroness Deech | 723 c1384 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is, of course, right. It seems to me, as a consumer, that the need for individual...
Lord Berkeley | 723 c1384 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Baroness aware that the Passengers’ Council is included in Schedule 7, and is therefore...
Baroness Deech | 723 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak with no expertise but as a down-trodden consumer, which is probably how many peopl...
Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 723 c1384 (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Baroness that the National Consumer Council did not give, and was not created to ...
Baroness Rawlings | 723 c1358-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree totally with the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, and all noble Lords who have spoke...
Baroness Whitaker | 723 c1359 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who spoke and to the Minister for her detailed explanatio...
Lord Borrie | 723 c1381-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment proposed by my noble friends Lady Hayter and Lord Whitty. I have k...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 723 c1372 (Link to this contribution) 43: Schedule 1, page 17, line 7, leave out ““National Consumer Council (““Consumer Focus””).””
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 723 c1372-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, although I now have no involvement with Consumer Focus, I was on the National Consumer Cou...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 723 c1387-8 (Link to this contribution) As a number of my noble friends have said, there are real concerns about the viability of the coalit...
Lord Greaves | 723 c1392 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister waxed lyrical and fluently about a vision in which services were concentrated...
Baroness Deech | 723 c1384 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord makes a good point. I am a long suffering commuter and I will not bore the House with...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1384-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an authoritative debate which has brought into the discussion on the future ...
Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 723 c1386 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is almost bound to have to add that the Department of Prices and Consumer Affairs wa...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1386 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend must have been momentarily nodding during the part of my speech in which I referred ...
Lord Greaves | 723 c1386 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if we are now going into history, it should be put on record that the inflation rate, whic...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1386 (Link to this contribution) I am not trying to resurrect history tonight, but merely to call in aid some of the relevant factors...
Lord Liddle | 723 c1386-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support the amendment. We have had an excellent debate. I cannot believe that t...
Baroness Wilcox | 723 c1392 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, late though the hour is, that is a very good question. The consultation that we will have ...
Subjects
Cost effectiveness Closures Food Standards Agency Powers Non-departmental public bodies Reorganisation Local courts boards Football Licensing Authority Inland Waterways Advisory Council Consumer Focus Disability Living Allowance Advisory Board Advisory Council on Libraries
Legislation
Public Bodies Bill (HL) 2010-12
Link
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