Debate on Monday, 18 July 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Charles Hendry. The answering member was Huw Irranca-Davies.
National Policy Statements (Energy)
Debate on motions to approve the national policy statements on energy. (Relevant reports - Energy and Climate Change Select Committee third report of session 2010-12 (HC 648), and the Government response of June 2011.) Resolved.
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 531 c678-716
- Session
- 2010-12
- Department
- Department of Energy and Climate Change
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
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National policy statement for fossil fuel electricity generating infrastructure (EN-2). (Vote)
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National policy statement for gas supply infrastructure and gas and oil pipelines (EN-4).
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National policy statement for renewable energy infrastructure (EN-3). (Vote)
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National policy statement for electricity networks infrastructure (EN-5). (Vote)
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National policy statement for nuclear power generation (EN-6).
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Overarching national policy statement for energy (EN-1).
Thursday, 23 June 2011
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Government response to parliamentary scrutiny of the draft national policy statements for energy infrastructure.
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- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 531 c694 (Link to this contribution) Order. We have approximately 55 minutes left to take 18 speakers. I shall set a time limit from now ...
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Speaker | 531 c678 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that, for the convenience of the House, motions 1 to 6 should be debated together, and sho...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c678 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move motion 1,"That this House takes note of and approves the Overarching National Policy S...
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Iain Wright | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister worried about China? It is continuing with its nuclear programme, and about half the...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) There is a continuing need for gas, and the hon. Gentleman has set out the time scales accurately. W...
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Caroline Lucas | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) The Tyndall Centre has said that even the targets of the fourth carbon budget would provide only a 5...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) We all have to be very mindful of the situation in China. In the time it will take us to build one n...
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Andrew Love | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister has just suggested, incineration is considered in the renewable policy statement, ye...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c683-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. When the original competition was set out by the right ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister update the House on the progress of the carbon capture and storage programme? When...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c682-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady knows what has happened. The Committee on Climate Change has made recommendations to u...
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Tom Greatrex | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Hartlepool (Mr Wright) mentioned China. Does the Minister share my con...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the right hon. Gentleman's interest and expertise in these matters. As he knows, we took o...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, who understands these issues, will be well aware that the national policy statem...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c679-80 (Link to this contribution) This debate is intended to fulfil our commitment to parliamentary approval of the national policy st...
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Mark Tami | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) As nuclear stations take 10 years to build and the older stations are closing, and as renewables are...
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Lord Whitehead | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) The number of gas-fired power stations that are under way, constructed or at an advanced stage of pl...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. We have considered that, and I look forward to giving evidence to him a...
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John Robertson | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend the Member for Newport West (Paul Flynn) pointed out earlier, other countries are ...
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Albert Owen | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister will know, the Select Committee was anxious for wave and tidal generation to be incl...
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Mike Weatherley | 531 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) In the interests of the debate, I have to continue. I am ever so sorry. I find it very worrying tha...
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Mike Weatherley | 531 c701 (Link to this contribution) There are many items in the national policy statements that are to be commended. Were it not for a t...
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Steve Baker | 531 c701 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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John Robertson | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. If anybody knows anything about nuclear power, it will ...
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Jamie Reed | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) We all want CCS technology to succeed and prosper. Does my hon. Friend agree that although Members i...
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John Robertson | 531 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cheltenham (Martin Horwood). I have heard it all befo...
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John Robertson | 531 c701 (Link to this contribution) I have already said that I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman. Base load for this country is v...
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John Robertson | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. I do not believe that anybody has, as yet, been killed because of the nuclear power...
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Martin Horwood | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Albert Owen | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Martin Horwood | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) I will give way, for the last time.
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Albert Owen | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made his party's position on new nuclear very clear, but where does it stand ...
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Martin Horwood | 531 c698-9 (Link to this contribution) There is already an issue relating to existing nuclear, as the floor price for carbon will give it a...
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Dai Havard | 531 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) I have tabled three amendments to the national policy statements motions—amendment (e) to motion 1, ...
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Glyn Davies | 531 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) No, I am sorry, I do not have time. I cannot give way. I owe it to other speakers. The project has ...
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Martin Horwood | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to the nuclear national policy statement in particular on behalf of the Liberal Demo...
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Speaker | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Martin Horwood.
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Martin Horwood | 531 c697-8 (Link to this contribution) I accept that a percentage of them are—we have debated this at length in relation to the Energy Bill...
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Jamie Reed | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, but he must desist from peddling the m...
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William Cash | 531 c695 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Glyn Davies | 531 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) I begin my contribution to the debate by putting my cards clearly on the table. My constituency, Mon...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c693 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c693-4 (Link to this contribution) Indeed we had: the CCS competition was up and running. Instead of having a delay of a year and waiti...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c693 (Link to this contribution) I can put the record straight: not only had we identified the project but we had pledged the money f...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) Let me give the hon. Gentleman a chance to put the record straight. Will he confirm that under the l...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. I have huge support for what my hon. Friend suggests for energy generation in indi...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will have heard the point I raised with the Minister about the relative weakness of t...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an absolutely key point. If these technologies are to get up to large industria...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) I understand the sentiment behind my hon. Friend's question. The difficulty is the broad scope of th...
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Albert Owen | 531 c691 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a very powerful point about marine technologies. The Secretary of State has...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c689-90 (Link to this contribution) I would expect the people of Wales, the Welsh Assembly Government and the National Assembly for Wale...
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John Robertson | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend concerned, as I am, about the grid for some of the new power stations and, for tha...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) Very much so. That is the benefit of having the package of NPSs to consider tonight, as we need to d...
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Andrew Love | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) An answer to a question in January showed that incineration produces more CO2 than gas-fired facilit...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c687-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises important issues, but they are not addressed in the national policy statements...
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David Mowat | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the Minister's comments about nuclear. He may have seen the recent Parliamentary Offic...
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Paul Flynn | 531 c689 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will know that there are plans in the document to build new nuclear power stations at...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased we are debating the national policy statements after we discussed them in draft form in...
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Damian Collins | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend knows that my constituents are disappointed that Dungeness was not included on the li...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c686-7 (Link to this contribution) I could sense that my hon. Friend was going to intervene even before she had risen to her feet, beca...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c685-6 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your strictures, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will be very observant of them in considering...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) Just once more then.
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David Mowat | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way? Just once more?
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Charles Hendry | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) We were not limited to eight sites in the process that we went through. We decided that eight of the...
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Mike Weatherley | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) We have been talking about waste disposal, particularly in the nuclear industry. The statement refer...
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Speaker | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the Minister rises to his feet, this would be a good point for me to inform the House ...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) And here is another one.
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Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is discussing renewables and technology. Is he not concerned at the relatively weak sta...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. There is a strong case for smaller, local waste facilities ...
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Andrew George | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) The Government have a coherent and ambitious plan for major renewables. In addition to the green inv...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c684-5 (Link to this contribution) Again, the hon. Gentleman raises an important point. We have made changes to the feed-in tariff to f...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) The purpose of the national policy statements is to facilitate the planning process. What we hear ti...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will understand that, given the number of Members who wish to speak i...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) It is important to put this in its proper place in the waste hierarchy. There is a clear commitment ...
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Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) I am encouraged by what the Minister has just said, but would it not be better if the statement—or t...
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) I want to press on. If I can give way a little later, I will, but there have been a lot of contribut...
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Dai Havard | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) In just a moment. The hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion also spoke about nuclear.
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Dai Havard | 531 c715 (Link to this contribution) Strategy and policy—wonderful stuff. The relationship between incineration, the planning process and...
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) I am going to take interventions towards the end of my speech if I have time. The hon. Member for R...
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Dai Havard | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c715-6 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will. My hon. Friend the Minister for Energy will also be delighted to meet such a deleg...
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Baroness Coffey | 531 c709 (Link to this contribution) This is an important debate on the energy future of our country. I boasted a little last week in Pri...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) I will in just a moment. It would be easy to dwell on the divisions that exist. If the hon. Member ...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way; the hon. Gentleman has not spoken in the debate, and in the time I have ...
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Speaker | 531 c709 (Link to this contribution) There are two minutes left.
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Lord Whitehead | 531 c710 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should send the Minister a copy of what I would have said and ask him to respond to it. I...
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Meg Hillier | 531 c710-2 (Link to this contribution) I think that we would all agree that we have heard some excellent contributions this evening on issu...
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Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) This has been an excellent debate. I am sorry that we have not had more time, but we have managed to...
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Albert Owen | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Speaker | 531 c705 (Link to this contribution) Order. We are running out of time, so brevity is important. If hon. Members have already spoken, I t...
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Caroline Lucas | 531 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to follow the earlier speeches of the hon. Member for Hove (Mike Weatherley) and, pe...
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Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 531 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) I will not take interventions because I am thinking of other colleagues. An example is the biomass ...
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Lord Lilley | 531 c704-5 (Link to this contribution) This country faces a serious threat of black-outs unless we undertake a major programme of building ...
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Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 531 c702-3 (Link to this contribution) We are all aware of the need to fight climate change and we all have a role to play. This is an issu...
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Jamie Reed | 531 c702 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Mike Weatherley | 531 c702 (Link to this contribution) No, I have only got another minute. [[Hon. Members: ““You would get an extra minute.””] I know, but ...
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Tom Greatrex | 531 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) I know that other hon. Members wish to speak, so I shall try to be briefer than the five minutes all...
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Speaker | 531 c678-9 (Link to this contribution) With this we shall consider the following: Amendment (e) to motion 1, leave out from 'of' to end an...
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Paul Flynn | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister consider it wise to omit any reassessment of the costs of nuclear power, given tha...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) I hope I can reassure the hon. Gentleman that that will not be necessary. When the decision is final...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows that we attach tremendous importance to the potential of marine technologie...
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Tessa Munt | 531 c686 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the Minister says. I hope that once the IPC has some guidance, perhaps from the failure ...
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Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 531 c706-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak in this debate on these important statements. I will try to keep my remark...
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- Energy Electricity generation Energy supply Infrastructure Nuclear power stations Renewable energy National policy statements
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