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Debate on Monday, 18 July 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Charles Hendry. The answering member was Huw Irranca-Davies.


National Policy Statements (Energy)

Debate on motions to approve the national policy statements on energy. (Relevant reports - Energy and Climate Change Select Committee third report of session 2010-12 (HC 648), and the Government response of June 2011.) Resolved.


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Parliamentary proceeding
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531 c678-716 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department of Energy and Climate Change
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 531 c694 (Link to this contribution) Order. We have approximately 55 minutes left to take 18 speakers. I shall set a time limit from now ...
Speaker | 531 c678 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that, for the convenience of the House, motions 1 to 6 should be debated together, and sho...
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Charles Hendry | 531 c678 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move motion 1,"That this House takes note of and approves the Overarching National Policy S...
Iain Wright | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister worried about China? It is continuing with its nuclear programme, and about half the...
Charles Hendry | 531 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) There is a continuing need for gas, and the hon. Gentleman has set out the time scales accurately. W...
Caroline Lucas | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) The Tyndall Centre has said that even the targets of the fourth carbon budget would provide only a 5...
Charles Hendry | 531 c682 (Link to this contribution) We all have to be very mindful of the situation in China. In the time it will take us to build one n...
Andrew Love | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister has just suggested, incineration is considered in the renewable policy statement, ye...
Charles Hendry | 531 c683-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. When the original competition was set out by the right ...
Malcolm Wicks | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister update the House on the progress of the carbon capture and storage programme? When...
Charles Hendry | 531 c682-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady knows what has happened. The Committee on Climate Change has made recommendations to u...
Tom Greatrex | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Hartlepool (Mr Wright) mentioned China. Does the Minister share my con...
Charles Hendry | 531 c683 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the right hon. Gentleman's interest and expertise in these matters. As he knows, we took o...
Charles Hendry | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, who understands these issues, will be well aware that the national policy statem...
Charles Hendry | 531 c679-80 (Link to this contribution) This debate is intended to fulfil our commitment to parliamentary approval of the national policy st...
Mark Tami | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) As nuclear stations take 10 years to build and the older stations are closing, and as renewables are...
Lord Whitehead | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) The number of gas-fired power stations that are under way, constructed or at an advanced stage of pl...
Charles Hendry | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. We have considered that, and I look forward to giving evidence to him a...
John Robertson | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend the Member for Newport West (Paul Flynn) pointed out earlier, other countries are ...
Albert Owen | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister will know, the Select Committee was anxious for wave and tidal generation to be incl...
Mike Weatherley | 531 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) In the interests of the debate, I have to continue. I am ever so sorry. I find it very worrying tha...
Mike Weatherley | 531 c701 (Link to this contribution) There are many items in the national policy statements that are to be commended. Were it not for a t...
John Robertson | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. If anybody knows anything about nuclear power, it will ...
Jamie Reed | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) We all want CCS technology to succeed and prosper. Does my hon. Friend agree that although Members i...
John Robertson | 531 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cheltenham (Martin Horwood). I have heard it all befo...
John Robertson | 531 c701 (Link to this contribution) I have already said that I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman. Base load for this country is v...
John Robertson | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. I do not believe that anybody has, as yet, been killed because of the nuclear power...
Martin Horwood | 531 c700 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Albert Owen | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Martin Horwood | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) I will give way, for the last time.
Albert Owen | 531 c698 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made his party's position on new nuclear very clear, but where does it stand ...
Martin Horwood | 531 c698-9 (Link to this contribution) There is already an issue relating to existing nuclear, as the floor price for carbon will give it a...
Dai Havard | 531 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) I have tabled three amendments to the national policy statements motions—amendment (e) to motion 1, ...
Glyn Davies | 531 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) No, I am sorry, I do not have time. I cannot give way. I owe it to other speakers. The project has ...
Martin Horwood | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to the nuclear national policy statement in particular on behalf of the Liberal Demo...
Speaker | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Martin Horwood.
Martin Horwood | 531 c697-8 (Link to this contribution) I accept that a percentage of them are—we have debated this at length in relation to the Energy Bill...
Jamie Reed | 531 c697 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, but he must desist from peddling the m...
Glyn Davies | 531 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) I begin my contribution to the debate by putting my cards clearly on the table. My constituency, Mon...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c693-4 (Link to this contribution) Indeed we had: the CCS competition was up and running. Instead of having a delay of a year and waiti...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c693 (Link to this contribution) I can put the record straight: not only had we identified the project but we had pledged the money f...
Charles Hendry | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) Let me give the hon. Gentleman a chance to put the record straight. Will he confirm that under the l...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. I have huge support for what my hon. Friend suggests for energy generation in indi...
Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c692 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will have heard the point I raised with the Minister about the relative weakness of t...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an absolutely key point. If these technologies are to get up to large industria...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) I understand the sentiment behind my hon. Friend's question. The difficulty is the broad scope of th...
Albert Owen | 531 c691 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a very powerful point about marine technologies. The Secretary of State has...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c689-90 (Link to this contribution) I would expect the people of Wales, the Welsh Assembly Government and the National Assembly for Wale...
John Robertson | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend concerned, as I am, about the grid for some of the new power stations and, for tha...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) Very much so. That is the benefit of having the package of NPSs to consider tonight, as we need to d...
Andrew Love | 531 c690 (Link to this contribution) An answer to a question in January showed that incineration produces more CO2 than gas-fired facilit...
Charles Hendry | 531 c687-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises important issues, but they are not addressed in the national policy statements...
David Mowat | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the Minister's comments about nuclear. He may have seen the recent Parliamentary Offic...
Paul Flynn | 531 c689 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will know that there are plans in the document to build new nuclear power stations at...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 531 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased we are debating the national policy statements after we discussed them in draft form in...
Damian Collins | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend knows that my constituents are disappointed that Dungeness was not included on the li...
Charles Hendry | 531 c686-7 (Link to this contribution) I could sense that my hon. Friend was going to intervene even before she had risen to her feet, beca...
Charles Hendry | 531 c685-6 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your strictures, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will be very observant of them in considering...
David Mowat | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way? Just once more?
Charles Hendry | 531 c687 (Link to this contribution) We were not limited to eight sites in the process that we went through. We decided that eight of the...
Mike Weatherley | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) We have been talking about waste disposal, particularly in the nuclear industry. The statement refer...
Speaker | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the Minister rises to his feet, this would be a good point for me to inform the House ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is discussing renewables and technology. Is he not concerned at the relatively weak sta...
Charles Hendry | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. There is a strong case for smaller, local waste facilities ...
Andrew George | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) The Government have a coherent and ambitious plan for major renewables. In addition to the green inv...
Charles Hendry | 531 c684-5 (Link to this contribution) Again, the hon. Gentleman raises an important point. We have made changes to the feed-in tariff to f...
Charles Hendry | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) The purpose of the national policy statements is to facilitate the planning process. What we hear ti...
Charles Hendry | 531 c685 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will understand that, given the number of Members who wish to speak i...
Charles Hendry | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) It is important to put this in its proper place in the waste hierarchy. There is a clear commitment ...
Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 531 c684 (Link to this contribution) I am encouraged by what the Minister has just said, but would it not be better if the statement—or t...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) I want to press on. If I can give way a little later, I will, but there have been a lot of contribut...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) In just a moment. The hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion also spoke about nuclear.
Dai Havard | 531 c715 (Link to this contribution) Strategy and policy—wonderful stuff. The relationship between incineration, the planning process and...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c714 (Link to this contribution) I am going to take interventions towards the end of my speech if I have time. The hon. Member for R...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c715-6 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will. My hon. Friend the Minister for Energy will also be delighted to meet such a deleg...
Baroness Coffey | 531 c709 (Link to this contribution) This is an important debate on the energy future of our country. I boasted a little last week in Pri...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) I will in just a moment. It would be easy to dwell on the divisions that exist. If the hon. Member ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way; the hon. Gentleman has not spoken in the debate, and in the time I have ...
Lord Whitehead | 531 c710 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should send the Minister a copy of what I would have said and ask him to respond to it. I...
Meg Hillier | 531 c710-2 (Link to this contribution) I think that we would all agree that we have heard some excellent contributions this evening on issu...
Lord Barker of Battle | 531 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) This has been an excellent debate. I am sorry that we have not had more time, but we have managed to...
Speaker | 531 c705 (Link to this contribution) Order. We are running out of time, so brevity is important. If hon. Members have already spoken, I t...
Caroline Lucas | 531 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to follow the earlier speeches of the hon. Member for Hove (Mike Weatherley) and, pe...
Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 531 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) I will not take interventions because I am thinking of other colleagues. An example is the biomass ...
Lord Lilley | 531 c704-5 (Link to this contribution) This country faces a serious threat of black-outs unless we undertake a major programme of building ...
Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 531 c702-3 (Link to this contribution) We are all aware of the need to fight climate change and we all have a role to play. This is an issu...
Jamie Reed | 531 c702 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mike Weatherley | 531 c702 (Link to this contribution) No, I have only got another minute. [[Hon. Members: ““You would get an extra minute.””] I know, but ...
Tom Greatrex | 531 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) I know that other hon. Members wish to speak, so I shall try to be briefer than the five minutes all...
Speaker | 531 c678-9 (Link to this contribution) With this we shall consider the following: Amendment (e) to motion 1, leave out from 'of' to end an...
Paul Flynn | 531 c680 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister consider it wise to omit any reassessment of the costs of nuclear power, given tha...
Charles Hendry | 531 c681 (Link to this contribution) I hope I can reassure the hon. Gentleman that that will not be necessary. When the decision is final...
Charles Hendry | 531 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows that we attach tremendous importance to the potential of marine technologie...
Tessa Munt | 531 c686 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the Minister says. I hope that once the IPC has some guidance, perhaps from the failure ...
Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 531 c706-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak in this debate on these important statements. I will try to keep my remark...
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Energy Electricity generation Energy supply Infrastructure Nuclear power stations Renewable energy National policy statements
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