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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 4 October 2011, in the House of Lords.

Welfare Reform Bill

Welfare Reform Bill. Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 under consideration. Grand Committee held in Committee Room 4A.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
730 c323-48GC 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Freud | 730 c346GC (Link to this contribution) I think we have developed a code for ““soon””, which I need not go on about again.
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 730 c343GC (Link to this contribution) I am trying to visualise in my mind what you are doing with your groups. What worries me is the olde...
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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c341GC (Link to this contribution) On the impact of the taper rates, does the Minister agree that, if you have council tax benefit or i...
Viscount Ullswater | 730 c323GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn as soon as t...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 730 c336-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to add a brief word. I hope that the Committee does not mind if I do not rise...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c328-31GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwood, has got us off to a really good start to our c...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 730 c339GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we continue, perhaps I may explain something to noble Lords that may help our sound...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 730 c324GC (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 7, leave out ““universal credit”” and insert ““working age entitlement””
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 730 c324-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I preface my remarks in the slightly Foulkesian vein of exhibiting some displeasure, not a...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 730 c324GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is not the first time that a Grand Committee has taken place in this Room. I recall m...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 730 c323-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Whip for that explanation. I had heard through what I should probably call unus...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 730 c323GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this looks like two bites at the same cherry, because I believe that this has been dealt w...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 730 c323GC (Link to this contribution) I was hoping that I was not going to have to get up and that the Whips would immediately get up. I r...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 730 c331-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like others, I thank the Minister and his Bill team for being so accessible and helpful; I...
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 730 c331GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to comment on the overarching universal credit and associated issues, but I ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c333-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since I appear to be one of a relatively small band of Conservatives in the Room, I think ...
Lord Wigley | 730 c333GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I pick up that point, which is very relevant to the debates we will be having regarding th...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 730 c335GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall comment briefly on a couple of the speeches that have been made. The way the noble...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c334-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to join my thanks to those made this afternoon, and to speak briefly about th...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c336GC (Link to this contribution) I am very disturbed to hear what the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, has just said about lack of cons...
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 730 c336GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, my Lords, I wish to make an addition to my comments. In my eagerness to thank the noble ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 730 c339GC (Link to this contribution) Could the noble Lord help us a little more? Some of us, in our amendments, are relying quite heavily...
Lord Freud | 730 c339GC (Link to this contribution) Yes, I think that they will be replaced quite quickly. I cannot give the actual date or time now, bu...
Lord Freud | 730 c339GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I deal with the amendment, the stand part debate and the clause, I have to take on ...
Baroness Meacher | 730 c337-8GC (Link to this contribution) I support that strongly. If one of our Members is actually at risk, maybe the usual channels need to...
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 730 c338GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to intervene quickly to put noble Lords’ minds at rest. On a point of information, I a...
Baroness Grey-Thompson | 730 c337GC (Link to this contribution) I was asked yesterday morning to come into this room and check for accessibility. I came in at 2.15 ...
Baroness O'Loan | 730 c337GC (Link to this contribution) I have a brief point in support of the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell. As we later consider the disab...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 730 c337GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is important that we in this Room remember that we are being observed by the world outs...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c337GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Committee will forgive me; I omitted to declare my interest when I spoke about the w...
Lord Freud | 730 c346GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, asked two questions. The child poverty impact that I cited from the...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c346GC (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister responds to that, may I chip in? The one thing that has not been touched on—I no...
Lord De Mauley | 730 c348GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps this might be an appropriate moment for the Committee to adjourn until 2 pm on Thu...
Lord Freud | 730 c347GC (Link to this contribution) My noble friend asked for some reassurance in the area of tax credits. Under the universal credit, i...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 730 c347-8GC (Link to this contribution) There is no need for code for ““coy””. In the last minute available to me, the one thing I want to s...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c346GC (Link to this contribution) On this occasion I will accept not just realism but good will.
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 730 c346-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all colleagues who have taken part in this debate. I hope it has fulfilled its purp...
Lord Freud | 730 c342-3GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, for that. I am at a slight loss at how to respond, in case...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 730 c345-6GC (Link to this contribution) I have two questions arising from what the Minister has said. The first is on the current impact ass...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c344GC (Link to this contribution) I wonder if I could intervene from a sedentary position. I think all that the noble Baroness, Lady M...
Lord Freud | 730 c344GC (Link to this contribution) It is never that black and white. When you build a system in stages, the issue is how partial or com...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c344GC (Link to this contribution) I will accept a commitment to be realistic.
Lord Freud | 730 c344-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to my noble friend. I shall continue dealing with the questions. My noble friend ...
Lord Freud | 730 c343GC (Link to this contribution) Yes. Picking up on that point from the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, one of the most complicated areas ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c343GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is clearly impressively knowledgeable around all this. He said that the systems were ...
Lord Freud | 730 c343-4GC (Link to this contribution) No. I shall explain to the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, exactly how this works. We are building a syst...
Lord Freud | 730 c341-2GC (Link to this contribution) We will have a debate on this matter rather soon, but maybe not today. The only way I can respond is...
Baroness Meacher | 730 c342GC (Link to this contribution) I wanted to turn the question around another way. The Minister rightly says that there are always ri...
Lord Freud | 730 c340GC (Link to this contribution) We will get a code. But even the current impact assessment shows the transformative effect of univer...
Lord Freud | 730 c339GC (Link to this contribution) ““Soon”” is closer to a week than a month.
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 730 c341GC (Link to this contribution) I reinforce my noble friend’s point. As every council tax taper will differ from district to distric...
Baroness Meacher | 730 c340GC (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Minister that that is one of the great things about the universal credit—on the ass...
Lord Freud | 730 c340-1GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness. I will leave that till a little later; a number of noble Lords have rais...
Subjects
Disability Childcare Department for Work and Pensions Jobcentres ICT Eligibility Income Jobcentre Plus Mental illness Poverty Staff Social security benefits Welfare tax credits Training Revenue and Customs Universal credit
Legislation
Welfare Reform Bill 2010-12
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