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Debate on bill on Tuesday, 4 October 2011, in the House of Lords.

Armed Forces Bill

Armed Forces Bill. Report stage.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
730 c1023-75 
Session
2010-12
Department
Ministry of Defence
Legislative stage
Report stage
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c1075, (corrigendum) 1468 (Link to this contribution) 14: After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause— ““National Defence Medal After section 339 of ...
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c1075, (corrigendum) 1468 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I want to take up one point he raised, that of the ong...
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Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1047 (Link to this contribution) 6: Clause 2, page 2, line 22, at end insert— ““( ) An armed forces covenant report must include a st...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it will not have escaped the notice of the Minister that this amendment has the support of...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply, and I want to put on record my thanks to him for t...
Viscount Slim | 730 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could respectfully make two remarks. First, the noble Baroness was quite right to say that...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1046 (Link to this contribution) The noble Viscount, Lord Slim, makes an important point. We have no plans for increased casualties, ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c1050 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise in this case not to seek solidarity with the episcopate, though I would be very hap...
Bishop of St Edmundsbury and Ipswich | 730 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my colleague the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Wakefield has been involved in the e...
Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 730 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, would like to say a few words in support of Amendment 6, which I spoke to in Commi...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 730 c1048 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support the noble and gallant Lord and to speak to Amendment 6. I think ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 730 c1042 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to persist in this but the Companion to the Standing Orders, as I understand it, states t...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 730 c1042 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that the noble Lord is familiar with the often-used phrase, ““It may be for the ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 730 c1042 (Link to this contribution) It is for the convenience of the annual conference, not for the convenience of this House.
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1042 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all those who spoke to my amendment. I note that the Minister has moved from the h...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1041-2 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, and indeed my noble friend, raise a very important point. I assure the noble Lord th...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Grand Committee and again today, the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has given a detailed ...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1042 (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 2, page 2, line 11, after ““housing”” insert— ““( ) in the operation of inquests;””
Lord Rosser | 730 c1045 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly will not repeat the powerful arguments advanced by the noble Baroness, Lady Fi...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1042-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the House for allowing me to de-group this amendment, and I listened care...
Lord Kakkar | 730 c1034-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 8, which is in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Patel. Th...
Countess of Mar | 730 c1035 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on a procedural matter, I remind noble Lords that with grouped amendments it is only the f...
Baroness Drake | 730 c1029-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 5 to put the case that the Secretary of State, in preparing the...
Lord Judd | 730 c1032-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support most warmly my noble friend Lady Drake. I am delighted that there is so much agr...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 730 c1041 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to intervene on the Bill and thank the noble Lord for giving way. He made a statement in ...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1041 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not aware of that. I think that the best way for me to handle my noble friend’s ques...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c1041 (Link to this contribution) Would the Minister consider a very brief question as being in order at this stage? I note what he sa...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1035-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this grouping contains a large number of amendments relating to the Armed Forces covenant....
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 730 c1041 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I want to follow up on the point raised by t...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1041 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I understand it, this is a one-off arrangement that will not be repeated.
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1023 (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 2, page 2, line 3, leave out from ““section”” to ““Armed”” in line 4 and insert ““340 of A...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1023 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire—
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1023-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the government Chief Whip. The noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, winding up th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 730 c1023 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that the House is interested in hearing from the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig...
Lord Rosser | 730 c1025-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two amendments in this group, Amendments 4 and 11. I thank the Minister for his let...
Lord Touhig | 730 c1024-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, much has been said on Second Reading and in Committee about the matters which should be in...
Lord Ramsbotham | 730 c1027-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to Amendment 1, tabled by my noble and gallant friend Lord Craig, becau...
Lord Williams of Elvel | 730 c1027 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has made the extraordinary statement that it has been agreed between the usual chann...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c1029 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can hardly claim to be an aficionado of this legislation or an expert on military matter...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1072-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on the subject of medals, the rules about accep...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1067 (Link to this contribution) 13: After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause— ““Commonwealth medals After section 339 of AFA...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1067 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for providing me with a very detailed response, and for the reass...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 730 c1065-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I recognise the noble Baroness’s concerns, which form the background to her amendment and ...
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 14. I waited until everyone had spoken on Amendment 13. This doe...
Lord Touhig | 730 c1071 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment of the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig. The issue of the Pingat...
Viscount Slim | 730 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while we were in Committee in your Lordships’ Chamber, there was a very fine debate on the...
Lord Ramsbotham | 730 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as in Grand Committee, I support every word of my noble and gallant friend Lord Craig. Unl...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1062-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment has been rewritten in the light of the debate we had in Committee. It has, ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 730 c1058 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I support my noble friend Lord Empey. Just today, I had a briefing on the impact of the com...
Lord Empey | 730 c1056 (Link to this contribution) 9: Clause 2, page 2, line 39, at end insert— ““( ) Where an armed forces covenant report states that...
Lord Empey | 730 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is almost a consequential amendment. I said in my previous remarks that the one thing...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1056 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken to this amendment, which is clearly one of the mos...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords have made some very important points on both amendments this afternoon. I have...
Lord Lyell | 730 c1054 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I am not too late or out of order; I do not know if the noble Lord who has just spoken w...
Lord Ramsbotham | 730 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I make no apologies for returning to the word ““trust””, which I used earlier. I must say ...
Lord Empey | 730 c1050-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 7 in my own name and comment on Amendment 6 in this group. There is a...
Lord Rosser | 730 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obviously somewhat disappointed at the Minister’s reply because although I accepted t...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1062 (Link to this contribution) 12: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause— ““Procedure on arrest for substance abuse, vio...
Lord Empey | 730 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. I understand that ““postcode lottery”” can be an emotive phra...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lords, Lord Rosser and Lord Tunnicliffe, tabled a similar amendment to Amendment...
Lord Rosser | 730 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment refers to the position of Armed Forces advocates and provides for the exist...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 730 c1058 (Link to this contribution) I intervene very briefly to support the spirit of the amendment and the comments made by the noble L...
Lord Lyell | 730 c1058 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Empey. I hope that I was not flippant in my comment about my mil...
Lord Astor of Hever | 730 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords who have spoken in support of Amendment 9 have voiced their disquiet at the pr...
Lord Rosser | 730 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister had the support of the whole House in his response to the previous amendment,...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister has obviously given a lot of thought to this subject. Nevertheless, I am extr...
Lord Dannatt | 730 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I contribute at this stage of our proceedings because Amendments 6 and 7 are critical to t...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 730 c1053 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too support these amendments, in particular Amendment 6. I would like to reinforce the a...
Lord Craig of Radley | 730 c1067-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 13 in my name and that of other noble Lords mentioned on the Marshall...
Lord Rosser | 730 c1060 (Link to this contribution) 10: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Armed forces advocates After section 359 of A...
Subjects
Complaints Disciplinary proceedings Conditions of employment Alcoholic drinks Disadvantaged Armed forces Death Crimes of violence Costs Commonwealth Devolution Coroners Advocacy Health Education Drugs Misuse Ombudsman Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration Mental health Malaysia Military decorations Training Young people Resignations Local Government Ombudsman Veterans
Legislation
Armed Forces Bill 2010-12
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