Adjournment debate, Backbench debate and e-petition debate on Thursday, 13 October 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Barwell. The answering members were Robert Neill and Robert Neill.
The Riots
Unallotted backbench debate (half day). Agreed to on question.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 533 c145-92WH
- Session
- 2010-12
- Department
- Department for Communities and Local Government
- Chamber / Committee
- Westminster Hall
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Barwell | 533 c147-8WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Chair of the Home Affairs Committee. I have not had a chance to see that eviden...
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Mike Weatherley | 533 c148WH (Link to this contribution) I ask this question as the chair of the all-party group on retail and business crime. A lot of retai...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c146WH (Link to this contribution) Those are all factors. We could also look at family breakdown, and particularly a lack of male role ...
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Keith Vaz | 533 c146-7WH (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing the debate. I commend the role that he and my ri...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c146WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. Both are issues, but we should start with the individual responsibility of those involved. ...
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Jack Lopresti | 533 c146WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. He is talking about breaking gang culture. Doe...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c145-6WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Weir. I am grateful to the Backbench Business...
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Richard Graham | 533 c146WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is building a powerful case. Does he agree—he has already presented some figures—that...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c148WH (Link to this contribution) I will come on to sentencing in a second, but anyone under the illusion that those crimes were victi...
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Jonathan Evans | 533 c148WH (Link to this contribution) As well as the policing costs, under the Riot (Damages) Act 1886 responsibility for uninsured losses...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c148-9WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has real expertise in the area and he makes a powerful point. We need reassurance on ...
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Mark Field | 533 c150WH (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with those sentiments, but does my hon. Friend accept my view that sentencing shoul...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c150-1WH (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. Decisions on individual sentences must be for judges and mag...
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David TC Davies | 533 c151WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Heidi Alexander | 533 c149WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Barwell | 533 c149WH (Link to this contribution) I will, for the last time, but then I must make progress.
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Heidi Alexander | 533 c149WH (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and congratulate him on securing the debate. In Lewisham,...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c149-50WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a good point. For a few weeks after the riots, the public understood the need to...
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c152-3WH (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak on a subject that has rightly attracted a great deal o...
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Meg Hillier | 533 c153WH (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend given some thought to the suggestion that some people should be evicted bec...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c151-2WH (Link to this contribution) I need to make a little more progress, because I am conscious of time. Clearly, we need to be caref...
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Speaker | 533 c152WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): Order. As many hon. Members want to speak in the debate, I encourage brevity.
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c154WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an important and complex issue. I hope she will understand that so as to keep ...
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c153-4WH (Link to this contribution) I entirely understand that if someone has been guilty of trashing their home, their estate or the ar...
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Kerry McCarthy | 533 c154WH (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that, in some cases, councils have talked about using evi...
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c154-5WH (Link to this contribution) I see that I am not succeeding. Will hon. Members please accept that I wish to be brief? I do not wa...
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Graham Stringer | 533 c155WH (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is being generous with his time. The hon. Member for Croydon Central (Gavin Bar...
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c155-6WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid point, and that issue needs to be considered fully in the evaluation of...
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Margot James | 533 c156WH (Link to this contribution) I support the right hon. Gentleman's comments as CCTV has played a fundamental role in the detection...
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Nick Raynsford | 533 c156-7WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a powerful point about her constituency, but I hope she will forgive me if I do ...
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Nick de Bois | 533 c157-60WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon Central (Gavin Barwell) on securing the debate....
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Nick de Bois | 533 c160WH (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady; it is all too easy to focus on areas where there were riots, and not to recog...
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David Lammy | 533 c160-1WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Member for Croydon Central (Gavin Barwell) for initiating the debate, and ...
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David Lammy | 533 c161-2WH (Link to this contribution) Before the Division, I was talking about community policing—its successes, but also a breakdown that...
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Mark Field | 533 c162WH (Link to this contribution) I accept some of the concerns that the right hon. Gentleman has put into mind. We all appreciate in ...
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Robert Neill | 533 c189WH (Link to this contribution) I see my hon. Friend the Member for Battersea (Jane Ellison) here. I will certainly give way to her,...
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Robert Neill | 533 c190-1WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right about the first point; I shall come to the second point in a moment, if I ma...
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Jane Ellison | 533 c189-90WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Minister is too kind. I am very pleased that he has mentioned the Party Superstor...
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Robert Neill | 533 c191-2WH (Link to this contribution) That is specific targeting that goes to Tottenham and Croydon, in recognition of their circumstances...
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David Lammy | 533 c191WH (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister recognise that £10 million for Tottenham will simply not be sufficient for the nee...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c192WH (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I thank all right hon. and hon. Members who have taken part in the deba...
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Heidi Alexander | 533 c184-5WH (Link to this contribution) I want to make four brief points. First, I entirely agree with the hon. Member for Enfield North (Ni...
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Chris Williamson | 533 c185-7WH (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure, Ms Clark, to serve under your chairmanship for the first time. This has been...
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Heidi Alexander | 533 c187WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has picked up on an important point that I would have liked to mention in my earlier ...
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Chris Williamson | 533 c187-8WH (Link to this contribution) I totally agree; my hon. Friend is spot on. It is essential that we achieve that objective, but the ...
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Speaker | 533 c183WH (Link to this contribution) Order. The wind-ups will start at 5.15.
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Siobhain McDonagh | 533 c183-4WH (Link to this contribution) The riots happened because they could, and there is a real issue about how the police handled London...
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Jonathan Evans | 533 c189WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister knows that I mentioned that I chaired the all-party group meeting with leading figures ...
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Robert Neill | 533 c188-9WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Ms Clark. This has been a very interesting and im...
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Robert Neill | 533 c189WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, the involvement of the business community, including the insurance sector, has been discussed. ...
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Mark Field | 533 c177-8WH (Link to this contribution) We have not had any in my constituency. As I mentioned the other day, one of the issues surrounding ...
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Virendra Sharma | 533 c178-80WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Croydon Central (Gavin Barwell) on securing such an important deb...
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Mark Field | 533 c176-7WH (Link to this contribution) Very much so. The pure economics of the matter show that if you can reach that small number of famil...
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Meg Hillier | 533 c177WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman have any experience of gang injunctions in his constituency? We have had gre...
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Mary MacLeod | 533 c176WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that family intervention is key to dealing with the matter and that those ...
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David TC Davies | 533 c183WH (Link to this contribution) If the right hon. Gentleman does not mind, I will wait until the Chair has a problem. I am answering...
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Malcolm Wicks | 533 c183WH (Link to this contribution) Some of us want to talk about the riots.
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David TC Davies | 533 c182-3WH (Link to this contribution) We will wait and see what happens. I want to make the point that the use of force in that way is a ...
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Tom Brake | 533 c182WH (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman at all reassured that, in relation to the policing of the riots, I am not awar...
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David TC Davies | 533 c180-2WH (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest as a serving special constable with the British Transport police. Because of t...
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Speaker | 533 c167-8WH (Link to this contribution) The previous Chair asked Members to keep their contributions brief. The Member who has just spoken t...
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David Lammy | 533 c167WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman puts his point well. In a civilised country, a burden always lies on the majority...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c166-7WH (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that what is wrong is not the policy per se, but a lack of empat...
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David Lammy | 533 c166WH (Link to this contribution) I was not wearing my rosette on that occasion; I had taken it off. I was stopped and searched. I was...
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Siobhain McDonagh | 533 c166WH (Link to this contribution) Wasn't your rosette a giveaway? [Laughter.]
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David Lammy | 533 c165-6WH (Link to this contribution) Of course, serious issues remain for all police forces, particularly those policing urban areas, but...
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Tom Brake | 533 c165WH (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with the point that the right hon. Gentleman is making. However, in relation to New...
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David Lammy | 533 c165WH (Link to this contribution) This debate is rather circular, because the hon. Gentleman will understand that the kind of summer t...
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David TC Davies | 533 c165WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. It might surprise him to know that a lot o...
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David Lammy | 533 c162-5WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is exactly right. With great sadness, I say that, for the first time in many year...
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Meg Hillier | 533 c171-5WH (Link to this contribution) It is the first time that I have spoken under your chairmanship, Ms Clark. Welcome to the Chair. We...
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Speaker | 533 c171WH (Link to this contribution) I will call for the winding-up speeches to begin at 5.15.
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Mark Field | 533 c175-6WH (Link to this contribution) Like my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon Central (Gavin Barwell), I watched the dreadful and, at t...
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Tom Brake | 533 c170WH (Link to this contribution) I will give way once more, and then I must conclude.
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Lord Barwell | 533 c170WH (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Tom Brake | 533 c171WH (Link to this contribution) It is about proportionality. We must all decide where the line in the sand must be drawn, but I add ...
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Lord Barwell | 533 c170-1WH (Link to this contribution) I do not wholly disagree with the point that the right hon. Gentleman is making, but if that 18-year...
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Tom Brake | 533 c168-70WH (Link to this contribution) I will endeavour to follow your strictures, Ms Clark. I congratulate the hon. Member for Croydon Ce...
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Tom Brake | 533 c170WH (Link to this contribution) I agree that the community wants to see lessons learnt and appropriate action taken. At the same tim...
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Mark Field | 533 c170WH (Link to this contribution) I suspect that most of that would fall foul of human rights legislation, which will not be removed f...
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Chi Onwurah | 533 c160WH (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his interesting and thoughtful analysis of some of the root causes of...
- Subjects
- Compensation Crime Courts Costs Police Prisons Young people Violence Reoffenders Civil disorder Gangs
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