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Debate on bill on Friday, 20 January 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Christopher Chope. The answering member was Ed Davey.

Daylight Saving Bill

Daylight Saving Bill. Report stage. Clause 1 considered. Question proposed (Standing order No 29), agreed on division (119 to 10). Closure motion agreed on division (122 to 10). Amendments negatived on division (10 to 121). Clause 4 considered. Closure motion agreed on division (124 to 10). Amendments negatived on division (11 to 119). Clause 9 under consideration. Debate adjourned, to be resumed on Friday 27 January.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
538 c969-1032 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
Standing Order No 29
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Daylight Saving Bill. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Wednesday, 7 December 2011
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) Do you know, I think that that word is on the cusp—a bit. It offended me, a little, but I must say t...
Speaker | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman would have to claim to move the closure under Standing Order No. 29. I think that...
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Ed Davey | 538 c1020 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady confirm that in the Bill we have done what the SNP asked us to do? What we said i...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c1019-20 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to take up too much of the House's time today. I regret that it is so easy to use th...
Ed Davey | 538 c1019 (Link to this contribution) Of course, the devolved Administrations will have access to the report and the data on which it was ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1019 (Link to this contribution) Would the devolved Administrations have full access to the data on which the report was based? Furth...
Ed Davey | 538 c1018-9 (Link to this contribution) No. The Bill also provides for the devolved Executives to be consulted about any proposals to incre...
Ed Davey | 538 c1018 (Link to this contribution) The position that I have set out is the policy of the Government, irrespective of whether I am the M...
Philip Davies | 538 c1018 (Link to this contribution) The Ministers says that he is determined that this will not go ahead without the agreement of people...
Ed Davey | 538 c1018 (Link to this contribution) We have made it clear that that is not our intention, and that we will listen to all parts of the Un...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1018 (Link to this contribution) The Minister and I discussed this matter back and forward at some length in Committee. Given the mea...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman on this point. It is not separatists who say that they want to give ...
Philip Davies | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I will press on, as I am sure you and others would wish me to do. If ...
Speaker | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Order. We are supposed to be debating the amendment tabled by Mr Philip Davies, which has nothing to...
Philip Davies | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) I have drawn exactly the opposite conclusion. What the hon. Gentleman says may be true in terms of t...
Tom Harris | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) The Bill is carefully worded so as to respect the devolution settlement. Responsibility for changing...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c1021 (Link to this contribution) That is right, and I agree. I will conclude my remarks, because I know that other people want to sp...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1021 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend feel, as I do, that the safeguards that we are looking for are a way of fixing t...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) While our debate has continued, another issue that I had not considered has been brought to my atten...
Philip Davies | 538 c1021 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Castle Point (Rebecca Harris) on getting her private Me...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c1020 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely recognise the progress that the Minister has made. It is good, but we need safeguards. ...
Bob Stewart | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) Why is the hon. Member for the islands of Scotland, where I, too, came from, once, confident that th...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) I say that we should have a series of Novembers. As I have said, I am a conciliatory man, and I have...
Tom Harris | 538 c1014 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman shows a welcome, if surprising, flexibility, but does he not concede the principl...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the generous spirit in which the hon. Gentleman has introduced the amendment, but has he...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Will you rule on whether the word—if I may utter it myself—“...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for a good point, well made. Although some organisations might want the ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1014 (Link to this contribution) Is not the obvious answer to the Minister that the Government could carry out a study any day of the...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1016 (Link to this contribution) When the hon. Gentleman mentions Europe, perhaps he should consider a comparison between Paris and L...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1016 (Link to this contribution) The issue is not with a European directive. The fact is that the time difference between Scotland an...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1016 (Link to this contribution) There is eminent sense in the approach of talking, rather than rushing headlong into a miserable tri...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1016-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. There is a danger that we will be distracted from the more im...
Matthew Offord | 538 c1016 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is correct about the causal links in the accident rate. In my time at Barnet coun...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) If the clocks were to change on St Andrew's day, giving us an extra hour on that day, we might have ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution) I hear the hon. Gentleman's concern, but he is again looking for difficulties, whereas I look for op...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) I have tried to take all the amendments seriously and at face value. However, I suggest to the hon. ...
Alan Reid | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. I was slightly concerned that he wa...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I think that the inclusion of Wales in this amendment shows my hon. Friend's generosity of spirit. H...
Alan Reid | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I must admit that I am not au fait with the boundaries of all the historic counties of England and I...
Alan Reid | 538 c1007 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the hon. Gentleman makes an important point, which answers well the point made by the hon. Memb...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1007 (Link to this contribution) Of course, if the power were given to Wales, it would not have to be exercised, but it would be a co...
Alan Reid | 538 c1007 (Link to this contribution) I had better not express any view on the Government's actions. I know they took nearly a year to bri...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1007 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talks about the time when he was at school. Does he think anything has happened s...
Tom Harris | 538 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to delay the hon. Gentleman. I was making the point, albeit from a sedentary position, th...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1009 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a very important point that is often cited. When we look at the data, we se...
Alan Reid | 538 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) It would indeed be absurd to have two different time zones within the United Kingdom. Hon. Members r...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1008 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that, in effect, the promoter of the Bill concedes the points that he mak...
Alan Reid | 538 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. I am sorry the hon. Gentleman misunderstood the point that I wa...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I understand my hon. Friend's point, but does he share my concern that his amendment is in danger of...
Alan Reid | 538 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. That is why the Home Secretary of the day concluded that th...
Iain Stewart | 538 c1009 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point about the declining number of road accidents in the previous...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Castle Point (Rebecca Harris). It is rare indeed for a Back Bench...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my hon. Friend has considered fully the problem of the European Union's not allowin...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1011 (Link to this contribution) I am speaking to amendment 17, Mr Deputy Speaker. I think it important to set the context of the ame...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1012 (Link to this contribution) I think that European directives and rules are often perceived as guidelines by the continental and ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1011 (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman seen this little postcard-sized piece of paper, which claims that the Bill wo...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1011 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman gives me a great opportunity to say that independence will be better than sliced ...
Speaker | 538 c1011 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hate to interfere with the hon. Gentleman's pursuit of happiness, but I think that we have ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1011 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions the claim that the provisions would ““make the nation happier””. As a re...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1012 (Link to this contribution) I wonder further whether my hon. Friend thinks that if we did have a big fight with Brussels over th...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1012 (Link to this contribution) That is a very interesting question. Debate, discussion and arguments can of course be invigorating,...
Iain Stewart | 538 c1012 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has raised an important point. Many people in my constituency, which is in the so...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1013 (Link to this contribution) It is not just crofters in the outer Hebrides about whom I worry; I worry about the commuters of Mil...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1014 (Link to this contribution) Many people would welcome the study for a number of reasons, and that organisation would welcome it ...
Ed Davey | 538 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to the hon. Gentleman make the point several times about road safety in Scotland. Is...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1013-4 (Link to this contribution) I admire the hon. and gallant Gentleman's headlong enthusiasm, but we must reflect before plunging o...
Bob Stewart | 538 c1013 (Link to this contribution) Look, we have listened to this all morning. It is clear that we are not absolutely certain what woul...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1013 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. I know that the cold in Banff and Buchan is balanced only by the ...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c1013 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned about the winter morning issue. Last week my heating in London broke down and I did n...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c998-9 (Link to this contribution) I have not, but I know that these things always cost more than is anticipated and that any great pro...
Tobias Ellwood | 538 c999 (Link to this contribution) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) The reason I brought it up to be linked is that by getting rid of clause 2 the President of the Boar...
Iain Stewart | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend had an opportunity to quantify the cost to the public purse of such an oversight ...
Speaker | 538 c999 (Link to this contribution) I am willing to accept the closure—the references to Lenin's brain finally persuaded me.
Thomas Docherty | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) On that occasion I meant the majority party in the Scottish Parliament, but I see the hon. Gentleman...
Speaker | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that Lenin's brain quite links with daylight hours in the UK.
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will—I have been waiting for the hon. Gentleman to ask.
Thomas Docherty | 538 c998 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman mean the majority party in the Scottish Parliament, where the Scottish Natio...
Alan Reid | 538 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his support. He makes the important point that the debate on...
Philip Davies | 538 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the thrust of the hon. Gentleman's amendment. As he knows, I have tabled similar amendm...
Alan Reid | 538 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, because the hon. Gentleman raises an important subject. When my party was in oppositi...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1003 (Link to this contribution) This is a useful amendment, but may I set the hon. Gentleman's mind at rest by saying that I have a ...
Speaker | 538 c999 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
Speaker | 538 c1000 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
Alan Reid | 538 c1001 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 13, page 2, line 27, at end insert"'the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh As...
Speaker | 538 c1002 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Alan Reid | 538 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to amendment 13, which I view as an important and key amendment. It would mean that th...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1003 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman and I probably have different views on the substance of the Bill—many of the cons...
Tom Harris | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the hon. Member for Castle Point (Rebecca Harris) and the Government have go...
Alan Reid | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman. If the referendum proposed by the SNP in Scotland were to ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I invite the hon. Gentleman to imagine a scenario in which the Prime Minister behaved in a high-hand...
Alan Reid | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I voted against the hon. Gentleman's amendment to the Scotland Bill and I am still opposed to any am...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman rightly says that I made a similar proposal in Committee to move these things to ...
Alan Reid | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I voted against the hon. Gentleman's amendment, as it opened up the possibility of ending up with th...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) It may well be that by the time the order is presented by the Secretary of State here people will ha...
Alan Reid | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I share the hon. Gentleman's view that that is likely to happen in 2016, but the time scale in the B...
Alan Reid | 538 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I have no doubt that they are, and I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is on much more intimate terms ...
Alan Reid | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) The important people with whom I always discuss these matters are my constituents, and they are repr...
Alan Reid | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I have not spoken to anybody in Wales, but I have spoken to plenty of people in Scotland. It is very...
Tom Harris | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) Further to the question of my hon. Friend the Member for Alyn and Deeside (Mark Tami), I note that t...
Alan Reid | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) There is no Conservative Government. There is a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition Government a...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1005-6 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman answer the question I asked earlier? If this House were to bounce an unpopul...
Alan Reid | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) I have tabled this amendment so that the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly will have to vote be...
Mark Tami | 538 c1006 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talks about the Welsh Assembly Government a lot, but has he actually consulted th...
Alan Reid | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. He shows once again the complete in...
Alan Reid | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I hope the hon. Gentleman will confirm that, as my hon. Friend the Minister said, all the Scottish G...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I have not had a chance to look at the website recently, but is the hon. Gentleman saying that the C...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c994-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an extraordinarily good and wise point. People sometimes see things happen and ...
Iain Stewart | 538 c994 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend may be aware that the Select Committee on Transport, of which I am a member, is embar...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c996 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has already heard me say that China is very big. It must be acknowledged that the Uni...
Robert Halfon | 538 c995-6 (Link to this contribution) I was surprised when my hon. Friend defended communist China, as opposed to the land of the free. I ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) That is an extremely important point. If one is a Unionist—if one believes that this is one great co...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman may know, Na h-Eileanan an Iar—which he pronounces so well—is 7.5 degrees, or ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) That brings me to amendment 23, which requires the consultation to include representatives from Engl...
Adrian Sanders | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) A simple look at any map reveals that the whole of Portugal is far to the west of the United Kingdom...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that invaluable intervention. I am sorry to say that I think that merely discussin...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c996 (Link to this contribution) As it happens, I think that it would be good manners to consult the Republic of Ireland as well, bec...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c996 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned by the suggestion that a shared time zone enables us to live happily together in one ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) Of course we should take into account the views of the whole country, but the real problems come in ...
Damian Collins | 538 c996 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has spoken of the importance of obtaining a spread of opinion, including the views of...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c997-8 (Link to this contribution) I think that that wanders slightly beyond the parameters of this rather narrow amendment, although I...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c997 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Member for Glasgow South (Mr Harris) pointed out, there is a range of opinion in the nat...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c997 (Link to this contribution) I am very interested by what the hon. Gentleman says, but if it were simply a case of looking for th...
Tom Harris | 538 c997 (Link to this contribution) At the risk of extending the hon. Gentleman's speech, may I point out that he is pursuing a false pa...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c997 (Link to this contribution) That is an excellent point. I hope that it was heard by my hon. Friend the Member for Castle Point (...
Philip Davies | 538 c997 (Link to this contribution) If the Bill is not anti-Scottish and if people are happy with it, there will be no problem with ensu...
Ed Davey | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) No. The House might wish to reflect—
Christopher Chope | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Can you advise me whether it is in accordance with the tradi...
Speaker | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) Mr Chope, as a long-serving Member of the House, you know, as I do, that it is up to the Minister wh...
Ed Davey | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) I am showing the hon. Gentleman the courtesy that he showed to the other Members of the House who wi...
Paul Blomfield | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) I had intended, along with my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Meg Munn), to speak in t...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak to my amendments 3 and 5, and to speak more broadly to some of the other amendments ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c992 (Link to this contribution) I am impressed that the hon. Gentleman listened to the Minister. Was he able to understand, or even ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c993 (Link to this contribution) On the point about harmonisation with Europe, many people have mentioned the costs for businesses. S...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c992-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question; it is always good to have an intervention from him. I d...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c993 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an important point. Surely midday is not called midday by accident. It ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c993 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point, as he so often does. Na h-Eileanan an Iar is enormously...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c994 (Link to this contribution) There is another amendment, tabled by other hon. Members, that would have that effect. I take my hon...
Tom Harris | 538 c994 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the hon. Gentleman's contribution, although I am disappointed that he is being rather ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c994 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his support for my amendment 59. Did he notice that, when the Mi...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c994 (Link to this contribution) I have the greatest respect for the hon. Gentleman and, had I thought that he would welcome it, I wo...
Speaker | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) Under Standing Order No. 29, I am required to put the Question on the motion that the Question is no...
Stephen Phillips | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Question be now proposed.
Christopher Chope | 538 c989 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was about to bring my remarks to a quick conclusion becaus...
Speaker | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate a delay in the No Lobby.
David Nuttall | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree with my hon. Friend. In view of the importance of this matter, can he assure me t...
Tobias Ellwood | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I seek your guidance. Can you make a judgment on Standing Or...
Speaker | 538 c989 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Chope, you are such a magnanimous Member.
Peter Bottomley | 538 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. May I briefly say that the issue underlying the amendments ...
Speaker | 538 c990 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that there will be no more non-points of order.
Ed Davey | 538 c991 (Link to this contribution) I concur with the hon. Member for Edinburgh South (Ian Murray) in his praise for my hon. Friend the ...
Ian Murray | 538 c991 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way. The hon. Gentleman will have an opportunity to speak. I commend the hon. Lady ...
Ian Murray | 538 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, if the hon. Gentleman does not mind, because we want to move on. It is importan...
Ian Murray | 538 c990 (Link to this contribution) I too will be brief. I just want to take the opportunity to pay a glowing tribute to the hon. Member...
Rebecca Harris | 538 c990 (Link to this contribution) I am sure you will be relieved to know that I will be brief, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Bill strikes pr...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c991 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for the Minister to speak so quickly that it ...
Speaker | 538 c991 (Link to this contribution) That is not a point of order. It is up to the Minister how quickly he speaks. We do not place a limi...
Christopher Chope | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend about that. Amendment 64 stands in my name and those of my h...
Philip Davies | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) But if we accepted amendments that made this group genuinely independent, surely that would be bette...
Christopher Chope | 538 c981-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point—of course he is a signatory to amendment 58 and he made the same p...
Christopher Chope | 538 c982 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. Amendment 3 stands in the name of my hon. Fr...
Philip Davies | 538 c982 (Link to this contribution) As my amendment was mentioned, I am anxious to ensure that it is not misrepresented. Does my hon. Fr...
Christopher Chope | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) I am much more in favour of harmony than harmonisation, particularly on the European Union. Amendme...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c982 (Link to this contribution) Did the hon. Gentleman fear, as I did when I heard the hon. Member for Beckenham (Bob Stewart) talk ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) It would go some way to addressing the problem, but what the amendment in the name of my hon. Friend...
Philip Davies | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) Given the slightly different tack that my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset and I have ...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c983 (Link to this contribution) I often think that I understand what is going on. I thought that the oversight group was supposed to...
Christopher Chope | 538 c986-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for explaining the thinking behind amendment 25. On the amendments ...
Bob Stewart | 538 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point, but my hon. Friend must also accept that there is other evidence. For example, ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c984 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for taking the opportunity to explain a bit more about his amend...
Alan Reid | 538 c984 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions an important point about the Indiana study, and there was also a study i...
Christopher Chope | 538 c984 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, as that was what was said in Committee. If one closely reads the Bill, howe...
Philip Davies | 538 c986 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right that it does, but the time scale for the independent oversight group surely ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) I should have anticipated my hon. Friend's intervention; I am sure that the Government would wish to...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c985 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend assure me that if that amendment were passed, the representative from England wo...
Christopher Chope | 538 c985 (Link to this contribution) In that case, my hon. Friend will obviously be very supportive of amendment 12. It would ensure that...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c987 (Link to this contribution) Was it not the expression that Sir Winston Churchill used when he brought in daylight saving during ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c987-8 (Link to this contribution) The expression might have been used by that distinguished former leader of our country during wartim...
Hugh Bayley | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) It is a simple question: is the hon. Gentleman trying to talk out this Bill or does he believe that ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) It is basically the luck of the draw. If an hon. Member's amendment is selected as the lead amendmen...
Hugh Bayley | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) I most certainly would not want to misrepresent the hon. Gentleman's views, but the question is simp...
Christopher Chope | 538 c978-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope there will be plenty of time for other Members to speak. That is why I want to make more prog...
Hugh Bayley | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) There are 50 Members in the Chamber at the moment, all of whom have views on the Bill and many of wh...
Christopher Chope | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that I have been speaking for all that time. Actually, I have not. Much of t...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for my hon. Friend's response to my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset (Ja...
Christopher Chope | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) Let me summarise what I think is the strength of the argument for amendment 59. It would ensure that...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) There are 28 amendments in this group. If my hon. Friend were to devote just five minutes to discuss...
Christopher Chope | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to the other amendments seriatim, but I doubt whether I shall speak at such length a...
Christopher Chope | 538 c980 (Link to this contribution) I am almost lost for words. My hon. Friend has come into my constituency on I do not know how many o...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c980 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that tourism is more a function of temperature and that it dies down i...
Christopher Chope | 538 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a powerful and persuasive point—one that I must admit I had not considered....
David Nuttall | 538 c981 (Link to this contribution) In fact, many astronomical phenomena take place early in the morning, so it might not be so clear cu...
Laura Sandys | 538 c979 (Link to this contribution) I have received many representations from the tourism sector in Thanet. My hon. Friend talks about r...
Christopher Chope | 538 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that I represent a similar coastal community, but I have to tell my hon. Friend that I am ...
Tobias Ellwood | 538 c980 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that my hon. Friend has not had an opportunity to speak to tourism operators in his const...
Christopher Chope | 538 c981 (Link to this contribution) Again, my hon. Friend makes the point well, based on his experience—I am sorry that I do not have an...
Andrew Smith | 538 c981 (Link to this contribution) We all respect the convictions of religious minorities and the obligations imposed on their members,...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) These comments about the numbers of road deaths and accidents are misleading. The graph on deaths in...
Tobias Ellwood | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. May I say how much we are enjoying the oration from my hon. Friend ...
Speaker | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman should resume his seat. I say to him for the avoidance of doubt that were ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I do not accept that. One specious statistic that has been mentioned suggests that ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Gentleman says. This shows how complicated the issue is and why ultimately it s...
John Leech | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that most accidents happen during the period of the day that woul...
Christopher Chope | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, but I will not be seduced by her generous comments. A review to col...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. We understand your response to my hon. Friend the Member for Bourne...
Speaker | 538 c977 (Link to this contribution) The answer is that passing reference by the hon. Member for Christchurch to his view on the merits o...
Christopher Chope | 538 c977 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Mr Speaker, and to my hon. Friend for his point of order. For the sake of clar...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c977 (Link to this contribution) The effect of darkness has been asserted in the Chamber. In fact, the most dangerous hour on the roa...
Christopher Chope | 538 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. I must get back to the amendments. I believe that most of t...
Baroness Bray of Coln | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) I have received a number of representations from constituents who are clear that they want to enjoy ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect, I do not believe that that could be achieved unless we created more dayli...
Christopher Chope | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) Again, it is dangerous to generalise. I do not know about you, Mr Speaker, but some Members of the H...
Speaker | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) Order. Just before the hon. Gentleman gives way, and pursuant to the intervention that he has just t...
Christopher Chope | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend states that the politicians lost their nerve. I do not know whether that is correct, ...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) The answer is simple: the politicians lost their nerve. The small increase in the morning was heavil...
Christopher Chope | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to criticise my hon. Friend in public but he will know that the outstanding Mayor of L...
Bob Stewart | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) Let us be quite clear. If there is evidence, as there seems to be, that changing how we run our cloc...
Christopher Chope | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady's words are very wise. My experience as road safety Minister in the Department for Tra...
Roger Gale | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend refers to a past review but he knows the figures and he knows perfectly well that it ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c975 (Link to this contribution) In that case, why was the outcome of that review overwhelmingly rejected by Members of the House, wh...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) is right to say that the number of road deaths f...
Christopher Chope | 538 c974-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's reading of my amendment is absolutely right. We have already had a review of the wi...
Fiona Bruce | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) Is not another piece of evidence the fact that about £138 million a year could be saved to the NHS b...
Christopher Chope | 538 c973-4 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not suggesting that all. I am not suggesting that the only money to be made out of tourism ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) As a former Transport Minister, far be it from me to criticise the Department for Transport. I have ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) Certainly there is, and my hon. Friend refers to it, but I believe that the Government and the promo...
Christopher Chope | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) I am probably more in favour of developing new jobs in the economy through enterprise and competitio...
Hugh Bayley | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) Surely the hon. Gentleman is not suggesting that tourism stops in the winter in great cities such as...
Bob Stewart | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) Well, there is some evidence, is there not? One might say that as a London MP I would say that, but ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) My difficulty is that there is nothing to prevent the Government from commissioning an inquiry and g...
Tom Harris | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making the point that evidence should be discarded and the personal opinions o...
Christopher Chope | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) It is easy for people to assert, in a rather patronising way, that a particular measure will benefit...
Peter Bottomley | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the debates on the matter in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and En...
Christopher Chope | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman and I are on the same side on this issue, and I am not totally unfamiliar with Sc...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) If there is any perception of high-handedness from Westminster, last week's figure of 1,000 new memb...
Oliver Heald | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) Is not the reality that we should have a review and see what the predominant opinion and the stronge...
Christopher Chope | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) As a lawyer, my hon. Friend will know from having read my amendments that they do not rule out a rev...
Andrew Smith | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said earlier what a strong and passionate advocate of the Union he was. Should no...
Christopher Chope | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and that is exactly what we are doing, but my concern is that if this Parliament changes th...
Christopher Chope | 538 c972 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, and if the hon. Gentleman is patient I hope to mention Wales in my remarks.
Albert Owen | 538 c971-2 (Link to this contribution) I am a little disturbed that the debate is already going down the England-Scotland route. There is a...
Christopher Chope | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) Of course although, amazingly, the inquiry into the West Lothian question to which the Government ha...
Lord Redwood | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) I am terribly worried, because I normally agree with my hon. Friend, but he says that Scotland has a...
Christopher Chope | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) I see the Minister nodding in agreement.
Christopher Chope | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) If that is so, and I am sure it is, we are in danger of embarking on a course that will waste an eno...
Tom Harris | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) For the record, I am here this morning to support the hon. Member for Castle Point (Rebecca Harris),...
Christopher Chope | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for putting his support for the Bill on the record, but I am sur...
Speaker | 538 c969-70 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Christopher Chope | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) I wish to introduce a discussion on amendment 59 and the other 27 amendments, from Members on all si...
Robert Halfon | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says that he is a passionate supporter of the Union, but another strong union is the ...
Christopher Chope | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) I will not be drawn into having a discussion about the United States, because the Bill is fairly and...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) It is worth pointing out that the coming power of the next century, China, has only the one time zon...
Christopher Chope | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) I hope that we will have many similar witty interventions from my hon. Friend during the day.
Speaker | 538 c970 (Link to this contribution) Order. Preferably relating to amendment 59.
Christopher Chope | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, Mr Speaker, and of course the other amendments in this group. I believe that the origin...
Christopher Chope | 538 c969 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 59, page 1, line 3, leave out
Peter Bone | 538 c967 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the House sit in private.
Christopher Chope | 538 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I hope to have the chance to address my amendments, but I will say now that the reason for amendment...
Philip Davies | 538 c1031-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am pleased that he has cleared that up. I am afraid that, thr...
Speaker | 538 c1030 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Philip Davies | 538 c1030-1 (Link to this contribution) I will try again with this group to persuade my hon. Friends of the merits of the amendments, the pu...
Speaker | 538 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
Philip Davies | 538 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 44, page 4, line 4, leave out paragraph (b).
Alan Reid | 538 c1027 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am happy to accept the reassurances that the Minister gave...
Speaker | 538 c1027 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is unable to do that. We are now voting on whether the question ...
Philip Davies | 538 c1022 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his support, and I am pleased that he accepts that I am tryi...
Philip Davies | 538 c1023-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that observation. My amendment 35 deals with the length of the ...
Philip Davies | 538 c1023 (Link to this contribution) I will give way one last time, but then I want to make progress.
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c1023 (Link to this contribution) I just wondered whether my hon. Friend had noticed the time on the clock, because had the Bill alrea...
Philip Davies | 538 c1024 (Link to this contribution) That is very helpful. I feared that my hon. Friend was going in that direction, so I would certainly...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1024-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's remark about the European Union reminded me of how things change in politics. I...
Philip Davies | 538 c1024 (Link to this contribution) He is a much more generous man than I am, and I am sure that he has taken the Minister's word at fac...
Alan Reid | 538 c1024 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. For the avoidance of doubt, I want to put it on...
Philip Davies | 538 c1025 (Link to this contribution) I agree and I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman clearly supports my amendment. Our job in this Hous...
Greg Knight | 538 c1025 (Link to this contribution) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36), but the Deputy Speaker withheld his assent and ...
David Nuttall | 538 c1025 (Link to this contribution) I will not detain the House for long, Mr Deputy Speaker. We have had a long debate already on this g...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1026 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that an alternative way of dealing with this problem so far as Scotland i...
David Nuttall | 538 c1026 (Link to this contribution) That would, indeed, have been one way of dealing with this matter. Although I support amendment 30,...
David Nuttall | 538 c1026-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. My view is that we should not be told what...
Philip Davies | 538 c1027 (Link to this contribution) That is a perfectly respectable view for my hon. Friend to hold, although I might disagree. The ques...
David Nuttall | 538 c1027 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point, but I notice that clause 8(4) states:"““An order under this secti...
Greg Knight | 538 c1027 (Link to this contribution) again claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36). Question put forthwith, That the Questio...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c1015 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Member for Beckenham (Bob Stewart), who advocated European harmonisation earlier, curbs ...
Alan Reid | 538 c1016 (Link to this contribution) The European directive is important because in the days before it ferry and airline timetables were ...
Ed Davey | 538 c1017-8 (Link to this contribution) These amendments address the role of the devolved Administrations, and I therefore think it would as...
Mark Lazarowicz | 538 c1026 (Link to this contribution) Why does the hon. Gentleman feel obliged to bring anti-Europeanism into everything? I do not think t...
Christopher Chope | 538 c1007 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend share my concern that we could have consulted the Scottish people if the Bill ha...
Alan Reid | 538 c1007-8 (Link to this contribution) No. As the hon. Member for North East Somerset said, there are limits to the powers even of the Hous...
Alan Reid | 538 c1009 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. The words of the Home Secretary of the day sum it up be...
Ed Davey | 538 c1005 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that the SNP said on its website, until recently at least, that it only want...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 538 c993-4 (Link to this contribution) As always, my hon. Friend makes a wise and pertinent intervention. There has been one occasion in h...
Ed Davey | 538 c991-2 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I should like to speak to the lead amendment in this group, amendment...
Christopher Chope | 538 c981 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Shipley will be able to answer that question, because it relates to hi...
Charlotte Leslie | 538 c976 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that as the results of the previous review are disputed, and as this debat...
Fiona Bruce | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) Apparently the figure comes from the Department for Transport's estimates.
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c971 (Link to this contribution) To support the hon. Gentleman's assertion, I point out that I was on a radio programme on BBC Radio ...
Eilidh Whiteford | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) One of the most significant factors is that over the past year the number of road accidents in Scotl...
Christopher Chope | 538 c974 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend refers to another piece of evidence. I do not know whether it is correct.
Stephen Lloyd | 538 c973 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is evidence that upwards of 80,000 new jobs could come from...
Alan Reid | 538 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I think that you would rule me out of order if I spoke to an amendment that had just been voted down...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 538 c995 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions Portugal. Only yesterday, I discovered that according to Mr João Grancho...
Christopher Chope | 538 c988 (Link to this contribution) I cannot assure my hon. Friend about that, because there is a large number of amendments in this gro...
Matthew Offord | 538 c981 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an eloquent speech and is listening to all sections of opinion within the H...
Baroness Bray of Coln | 538 c978 (Link to this contribution) Nobody seeks to play sport at 7.30 in the morning. They are more likely to do so at 4 in the afterno...
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