My Lords, one good thing about the amendment is that I have been able to work with the noble Lord, Lord Clinton-Davis, with all his experience of aviation matters. Again, as I expected, I am disappointed by the Minister’s answer. I am grateful, as I am sure others will be, for the Government’s guarantee to intervene...

My Lords, one good thing about the amendment is that I have been able to work with the noble Lord, Lord Clinton-Davis, with all his experience of aviation matters. Again, as I expected, I am disappointed by the Minister’s answer. I am grateful, as I am sure others will be, for the Government’s guarantee to intervene...

moved Amendment No. 5:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““RELIEF FROM LIABILITY IN THE EVENT OF WAR ETC (1)   Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982 (c. 16) (liability of aircraft in respect of trespass, nuisance and surface damage) is amended as follows. (2)   In subsection (2) for ““subsection (3)”” substitute ““subsections (3) and (5)””....

moved Amendment No. 5:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““RELIEF FROM LIABILITY IN THE EVENT OF WAR ETC (1)   Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982 (c. 16) (liability of aircraft in respect of trespass, nuisance and surface damage) is amended as follows. (2)   In subsection (2) for ““subsection (3)”” substitute ““subsections (3) and (5)””....

My Lords, the problem is the blight envelope. There is no definite site for the runway, so the potential envelope for the development of the airport covers a very wide area. It is not that the houses will be lived in; they could well be demolished. People just do not...

My Lords, the problem is the blight envelope. There is no definite site for the runway, so the potential envelope for the development of the airport covers a very wide area. It is not that the houses will be lived in; they could well be demolished. People just do not...

moved Amendment No. 4:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““COMPENSATION: AIRPORT EXPANSION (1)   The Secretary of State may direct specified aerodrome authorities to introduce compensation arrangements for property owners whose properties have been adversely affected by proposals for airport expansion. (2)   The terms of the compensation arrangements will— (a)   ensure that the property...

moved Amendment No. 4:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““COMPENSATION: AIRPORT EXPANSION (1)   The Secretary of State may direct specified aerodrome authorities to introduce compensation arrangements for property owners whose properties have been adversely affected by proposals for airport expansion. (2)   The terms of the compensation arrangements will— (a)   ensure that the property...

My Lords, I have every sympathy with the noble Lord, and support the amendment. I shall be moving an amendment later, which is in similar vein, about compensation for properties. We had the debate about noise on Report. The noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, repeated some of the arguments when we went to a...

My Lords, I have every sympathy with the noble Lord, and support the amendment. I shall be moving an amendment later, which is in similar vein, about compensation for properties. We had the debate about noise on Report. The noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, repeated some of the arguments when we went to a...

My Lords, I shall repeat the answer. A future Conservative government will be very different from past Conservative governments, in the same way as the current Labour Government are very different from previous Labour governments. We may as well use those arguments all the time. I hope the Minister can give some...

My Lords, I shall repeat the answer. A future Conservative government will be very different from past Conservative governments, in the same way as the current Labour Government are very different from previous Labour governments. We may as well use those arguments all the time. I hope the Minister can give some...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that comprehensive reply. This issue is rather different. From my local government career, I am very familiar with blight for all sorts of reasons and in relation to all sorts of issues. The area of this airport expansion is enormous—miles by miles. The proposal is...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that comprehensive reply. This issue is rather different. From my local government career, I am very familiar with blight for all sorts of reasons and in relation to all sorts of issues. The area of this airport expansion is enormous—miles by miles. The proposal is...

Civil Aviation Bill. Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question and passed. Bill returned to the Commons with amendments. Read a third time.

Civil Aviation Bill. Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question and passed. Bill returned to the Commons with amendments. Read a third time.

moved Amendment No. 26:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““REDUCTION OF AIRSIDE EMISSIONS (1)   With effect from 1st January 2009 aerodromes with more than 50,000 movements a year by subsonic jet aircraft with a maximum take-off mass of 34,000kg or more, or with more than 19 passenger seats, are required to make available Fixed Electrical Ground Power and Preconditioned...

moved Amendment No. 26:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““REDUCTION OF AIRSIDE EMISSIONS (1)   With effect from 1st January 2009 aerodromes with more than 50,000 movements a year by subsonic jet aircraft with a maximum take-off mass of 34,000kg or more, or with more than 19 passenger seats, are required to make available Fixed Electrical Ground Power and Preconditioned...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that helpful reply. I will analyse it, as I am sure the noble Lord, Lord Carter, will, before Third Reading. We all have the same desire, which is to make this workable for people with disabilities. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that helpful reply. I will analyse it, as I am sure the noble Lord, Lord Carter, will, before Third Reading. We all have the same desire, which is to make this workable for people with disabilities. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment...

moved Amendment No. 21:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““RELIEF FROM LIABILITY IN THE EVENT OF WAR ETC. (1)   Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1983 (c. 16) (liability of aircraft in respect of trespass, nuisance and surface damage) is amended as follows. (2)   In subsection (2) for ““subsection (3)”” substitute ““subsections (3) and (5)””....

moved Amendment No. 21:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““RELIEF FROM LIABILITY IN THE EVENT OF WAR ETC. (1)   Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1983 (c. 16) (liability of aircraft in respect of trespass, nuisance and surface damage) is amended as follows. (2)   In subsection (2) for ““subsection (3)”” substitute ““subsections (3) and (5)””....

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. He acknowledged that the situation now is not very good—I think he said that it was imperfect—and he went on to say that we should find an international solution. Obviously we would all like that to happen. But, if it does not happen,...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. He acknowledged that the situation now is not very good—I think he said that it was imperfect—and he went on to say that we should find an international solution. Obviously we would all like that to happen. But, if it does not happen,...

moved Amendment No. 24:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““PETS PASSPORT SCHEME AND GUIDE DOGS (1)   The Secretary of State shall introduce a scheme by which the clearance costs of the Pets Passport Scheme for guide dogs and other assistance dogs travelling by air shall be met by airlines. (2)   For the...

moved Amendment No. 24:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““PETS PASSPORT SCHEME AND GUIDE DOGS (1)   The Secretary of State shall introduce a scheme by which the clearance costs of the Pets Passport Scheme for guide dogs and other assistance dogs travelling by air shall be met by airlines. (2)   For the...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that answer. He obviously agreed with all the points that were made. It is just a question of whether we follow the Scandinavian principles by putting this into legislation. We have had several discussions today about the amount of regulation and legislation that we...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that answer. He obviously agreed with all the points that were made. It is just a question of whether we follow the Scandinavian principles by putting this into legislation. We have had several discussions today about the amount of regulation and legislation that we...

I thank the Minister for that reply. As I said in my introduction, we expect major announcements from BAA tomorrow which will obviously have a considerable influence on the way we go forward. Certainly there is some resentment in the airlines. The ones using Heathrow feel that they might be subsidising the...

I thank the Minister for that reply. As I said in my introduction, we expect major announcements from BAA tomorrow which will obviously have a considerable influence on the way we go forward. Certainly there is some resentment in the airlines. The ones using Heathrow feel that they might be subsidising the...

I thank the noble Lord for his reply, which was much as we expected. I agree that compensation for airports alone should not be addressed. I think we have a problem. I will try and find some international examples so that I can catch the Minister out on another occasion. The cost of a project...

I thank the noble Lord for his reply, which was much as we expected. I agree that compensation for airports alone should not be addressed. I think we have a problem. I will try and find some international examples so that I can catch the Minister out on another occasion. The cost of a project...

Does the Minister accept that with an airport with a considerable runway, a considerable number of people will lose their homes? Being involved in local government, I agree that there are plenty of road schemes and railway schemes, but, generally, not many people lose their homes. They are often near a...

Does the Minister accept that with an airport with a considerable runway, a considerable number of people will lose their homes? Being involved in local government, I agree that there are plenty of road schemes and railway schemes, but, generally, not many people lose their homes. They are often near a...

We are happy to deal with the next group, which is very similar, at the same time.

We are happy to deal with the next group, which is very similar, at the same time.

I add my support to the amendment. I shall move a similar proposal later and think that there is merit in this whole range of amendments about noise. I hope that the Minister can give us some assurances that he has sympathy with them too.

I add my support to the amendment. I shall move a similar proposal later and think that there is merit in this whole range of amendments about noise. I hope that the Minister can give us some assurances that he has sympathy with them too.

I support the amendments in principle. Opposition Front Benches are often criticised for the detail we insert into our amendments and for wanting too much detail to go into the Bill. I hope that the Minister will never say that to us again because of the amount of detail in these amendments....

I support the amendments in principle. Opposition Front Benches are often criticised for the detail we insert into our amendments and for wanting too much detail to go into the Bill. I hope that the Minister will never say that to us again because of the amount of detail in these amendments....