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The Minister rightly says that there can be disputes with local authorities over what is and is not needed, and how far they should go. In speaking to Amendment No. 187, I made the distinction that there must be Chinese walls: a clear separation in local authorities between those who...

Member
Baroness Sharp of Guildford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1524
House
House of Lords

I am rather more disappointed by the answer to these amendments than was the case previously. Although I understand—at least, I hope I do—what the noble Baroness is saying about the ability of certain people to go straight in at level 2, I was trying to draw attention to the...

Member
Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1578
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful indeed for the comments that have been made, and even for the doubts that one or two noble Lords who have spoken had about the amendment. I am particularly grateful for the detailed way in which the Minister replied. I admit that, if I were looking...

Member
Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1574-5
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the Minister for her reply, although I am now confused at a somewhat higher level that I was before.

Member
Baroness Perry of Southwark (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1566
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 195: 195: Clause 66, page 38, line 25, at end insert ““, and ( ) any such advice and information should not be limited on grounds of disability, gender, sexual orientation, race and religion or belief, and ( ) any such advice should be accompanied by an...

Member
Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1544-5
House
House of Lords

I shall speak to Amendment No. 207A, which has already been referred to by the noble Baronesses. This amendment would place on local education authorities a duty to provide transport for disabled learners up to the age of 25 who are pursuing a course of education or training at a...

Member
Lord Low of Dalston (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1557-60
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 223A: 223A: Clause 96, page 56, line 21, at end insert— ““( ) This section does not confer power to inspect or take copies of anything of a kind specified in section 9(2) of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (c. 60) (legally privileged material etc).””...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1603
House
House of Lords

I have some concerns about the amendment. The aim of the provision is, quite simply, to improve the behaviour of disruptive and unruly children. Pupils who misbehave in class, who lack discipline and who are disrespectful to their teachers and to other pupils cause disastrous disruption to the learning of...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1616
House
House of Lords

We come once again to a Welsh element of the Bill and something that we are getting quite used to doing but have not got round to dealing with very well—what are known as framework powers. Chapter 1 of Part 5 produces framework powers for the National Assembly for Wales....

Member
Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1611-2
House
House of Lords

I understand what the Minister says, but I notice that new subsection (5) has ““may”” as distinct from ““must””. New subsection (2) states that, where a young person has a statement of special educational needs, the authority ““must”” arrange for an assessment to be made, whereas, where they are believed...

Member
Baroness Sharp of Guildford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1523
House
House of Lords

I support the amendments. I am reminded more than anything else of the point that the noble Lord, Lord Elton, stressed a day or so ago—that the earlier these assessments are done, the better. However, if the Minister is not able to tell us that the points made just now...

Member
Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1522
House
House of Lords

I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 186 and 187. Amendment No. 186 mirrors exactly Amendment No. 189, spoken to by the noble Baroness, Lady Morris. I seek clarification from the Minister, because I understand that the guidance being drafted by his department incorporates a change from the existing arrangements, which...

Member
Baroness Sharp of Guildford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1521-2
House
House of Lords

I shall deal, first, with Amendment No. 185, moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Morris. I entirely agree with her that everyone who needs an assessment should receive one, and that will include some students who are on school action or school action plus programmes. Clause 65 makes provision for...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1522-3
House
House of Lords

The noble Baroness is absolutely right that it is at the discretion of the local authority. However, new subsection (5) will need to be interpreted by local authorities in conjunction with new subsection (7), which states: "““In exercising its functions under this section an authority must have regard to any...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1523-4
House
House of Lords

I have here 31 pages of the draft guidance, which I shall be happy to circulate to the noble Baroness immediately after these debates. My department is not to be found wanting on the provision of guidance.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1524
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his reply. Yet again we are asked to take what is going to be in guidance on trust, although I was pleased to hear that draft guidance is now available. It would be interesting to know when the Minister thinks that they may have consulted...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1524
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 190: 190: Clause 66, page 38, line 18, leave out from ““manner”” to end of line 25 The noble Baroness said: I also speak to the other amendments in my name in this group. Clause 66 amends Part 7 of the Education Act 1997, which requires state...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1525-6
House
House of Lords

I am sure that we all look forward to receiving it. Like the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, I circled the word ““may”” in proposed new subsection (5). I admit to being still somewhat at a loss as to why it is a duty to assess a young person with a...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1524
House
House of Lords

I support the amendments in spirit, but I have certain reservations about naming any universities or groups of universities in the Bill. That would be a disservice to those universities, especially Oxford and Cambridge, which have been working incredibly hard, not only recently but, to my certain knowledge, since the...

Member
Baroness Warnock (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1529
House
House of Lords

Briefly, I support all the amendments. With the raising of the school leaving age, adequate—more than adequate—advice will play even more of a key role, as we have heard so graphically described, particularly in the story told to us by the noble Baroness, Lady Perry. We must not forget that...

Member
Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 July 2008
Reference
703 c1528-9
House
House of Lords