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Civil Aviation Bill. Second reading debate agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, Report and Third reading agreed to on question (formal). Ways and means resolution agreed to on question (formal).

Lead member
Stephen Ladyman
Answering member
Alan Duncan
Department
Department for Transport
Type
Debates on bills
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1036-111
House
House of Commons

If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will not give way. He will have a chance to speak later if he catches your eye, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Bill merely defines one aspect of the interrelationship between the airport and the airlines on noise and emissions, and there is...

Member
Alan Duncan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1052
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend will be aware that many travellers, because of the way tickets and holidays are purchased nowadays, have no idea that, if any of the companies became bankrupt, they would be stranded with no rights of return and no support. Will he give us a firm assurance that...

Member
Gwyneth Dunwoody (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1043
House
House of Commons

May I press the Minister further? Will he now rule out the idea that the Government have any intention of changing the movement limits for daytime flights?

Member
Mark Prisk (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1041
House
House of Commons

I will not rule out anything. I have made it clear that the rules were set out in the existing legislation that I described, that the Bill gives the Secretary of State certain powers in respect of designated airports and also extends those powers to airports that are not designated....

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1041
House
House of Commons

I am delighted that my hon. Friend is acting to control local pollution caused by aviation, but he will be aware that the big current debate on pollution from aviation is about the global impact on climate change—hence the recent strategy for sustainable aviation. How confident is he that he...

Member
Robin Cook (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1041-2
House
House of Commons

I can give my right hon. Friend those assurances. We shall use our presidency over the next six months and we hope to take forward some of the negotiations on aviation. In particular, we have made it clear that we are interested in some of the proposals for emissions trading...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1042
House
House of Commons

With regard to Stansted, which is adjacent to my constituency, is the Minister suggesting that the quotas and aircraft movement limits be complementary? Is that the Government’s intention? Or is it their intention to see the limits removed and simply to rely on the noise quotas for night flights?

Member
Mark Prisk (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1038
House
House of Commons

No. The Government’s intention is that there should be a proper consultation among the stakeholders involved in a particular airport, including the local community, and the most appropriate form of measurement would be the one that would apply at that airport. We are not intending one solution in any particular...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1038
House
House of Commons

In the case of the smaller airports, are the public or the local authority statutory consultees? If not, why not?

Member
John Pugh (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1039
House
House of Commons

The logic of the hon. Gentleman’s most attractive argument is that other airports should be designated as well so that they can be brought under the umbrella of the Secretary of State’s care and control. From what he has said, I assume that Nottingham East Midlands airport is an early...

Member
Lord Garnier (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1038
House
House of Commons

I am sorry to disappoint the hon. and learned Gentleman; we have no such plans at this point. It would be necessary for local Members and interested parties to convince the Secretary of State that he needed to designate a particular airport other than those that are designated at the...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1038-9
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is right: if we are to have stringent noise control, we have to define ““stringent””. However, the definition will be different at different airports. Some airports are closer to areas of residential use than others. Such matters need to be tailored according to local circumstances, and that...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1039-40
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend has been very patient. I have two points for him to consider. The White Paper referred to the need to impose stringent noise controls at certain airports, including Nottingham East Midlands. That would suggest that perhaps there was an objective test of what stringent meant, rather than...

Member
Mark Todd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1039
House
House of Commons

I will reflect on that question and let the hon. Gentleman know the answer in good time. I thank him for his good wishes. I had a very enjoyable election with his good friend, but I was delighted to beat him for the second time. Section 78 of the Civil...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037-8
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his appointment—I am only sorry that for the second time in succession, he defeated in South Thanet my very good friend Mark Macgregor, who would have made an excellent Member of this House. Will the order-making power provided for in clause 5(3) be subject...

Member
John Bercow (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037
House
House of Commons

Let me make some progress first. We have a full day’s debate, so we will have plenty of time to discuss these issues. The Bill will, among other things, strengthen and clarify powers to control aircraft noise and emissions, in line with the commitments given in the Government’s White Paper,...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Baroness Kramer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037
House
House of Commons

The Bill gives such power to the airport authorities, and as my hon. Friend correctly says, in many cases that will be the airport operator. But of course, they will be operating within the planning constraints imposed by the local authority. The existence of these powers will enable local authorities...

Member
Stephen Ladyman (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend accept that the Bill proposes to give these powers to the airports themselves, and that although many airports might exercise such responsibilities responsibly, some people might want an independent audit of their ability to regulate their own activities?

Member
Mark Todd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2005
Reference
435 c1037
House
House of Commons