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Government of Wales Bill

Rarely have I heard such a load of rubbish from a Secretary of State. No wonder he did not take very long to reply to the debate—he had very few good points to make. The confusion that the Secretary of State says is suffered by the electorate is no such thing. The only confusion that we are seeing is confusion by the Government. They have found themselves with Labour Members facing a problem that has now been identified as the Leanne Wood problem. To deal with that, the Labour party has taken the heavy-handed approach and decided to change the electoral system in Wales. Throughout this debate, we have asked for evidence of the confusion experienced by the electorate and the only evidence that the Secretary of State can give us is a quote from something from the, in his view, independent Bevan Foundation. That research has not been made available to any Members of the House and, when the hon. Member for Caerphilly (Mr. David) introduced it, he did not even say who had commissioned it, who had paid for it and when it would be available to Members.