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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 22 November 2006. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Northern Ireland (St Andrews Agreement) Bill.


Northern Ireland (St Andrews Agreement) Bill

moved Amendment No. 9: "Page 12, line 4, at end insert—" 29C Review of community designations "(1) Standing orders shall require the committee established by virtue of section 29A to consider—" (a) the operation of community designations; and (b) in particular, whether to recommend that the Secretary of State should make an order amending this Act and any other enactment so far as may be necessary to ensure that community designations shall cease to have effect. "(2) If, by no later than 1 February 2011—" (a) the committee established by virtue of section 29A makes the recommendation set out in section 29C(1)(b), and (b) the committee’s recommendation is approved by the Northern Ireland Assembly with cross-community support (within the meaning of that Act), "the Secretary of State must by order made by statutory instrument amend that Act and any other enactment so far as may be necessary to ensure that community designations shall cease to have effect.""(3) An order under this section may contain supplementary, incidental, consequential, transitional or saving provision.""(4) A statutory instrument containing an order under this section shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.””””" The noble Baroness said: I will be speaking to Amendments Nos. 9 and 11 in the group. Amendment No. 9 places a statutory duty on the review committee to look at community designations. Liberal Democrats have always been opposed to the use of designations within the Assembly. It has been clear from the beginning that there are problems with this system. It institutionalises sectarian divisions, there is inequality of votes between MLAs, it is unable to adjust to changing demographic and political circumstances, and it enables minorities to hold the process to ransom. Problems with designation and the voting system were brought into clear focus by the attempt to elect a First Minister and a Deputy First Minister on Friday 2 November 2001, when 70.6 per cent of the 102 who voted supported the election of David Trimble, as he then was, and the honourable Member for Foyle to the top two posts. This comprised 38 designated nationalists—100 per cent; 29 designated unionists—49.2 per cent; and five designated others. On the following Tuesday, 6 November, 70.7 per cent of the 99 who voted supported the election of David Trimble and Mark Durkan to the top two posts. This comprised38 designated nationalists—100 per cent; 31 designated unionists—51.7 per cent; and one designated other. The only substantive difference between the votes on2 November and 6 November was that three alliance MLAs temporarily—and tactically—changed their designation in line with the rules from centre—treated as ““others””—to unionist. In virtually every other legislative body in the world, a 70 per cent vote would be more than sufficient to elect a prime minister or form a government; but not in Northern Ireland. There is something seriously wrong with a system whereby MLAs cannot elect a First Minister and Deputy First Minister, even though more than 70 per cent of Assembly Members supported them. The difficulty is more fundamental than that and extends to the heart of the designation system, which requires Assembly Members to designate themselves as unionists, nationalists or other. Although this was proposed as a way to ensure cross-community consent, it actually contributes to reinforcing sectarian divisions. Right from the top down, the message is given that Northern Ireland society is rigidly divided into two separate communities and that people can be neatly pigeonholed into separate categories. Designations imply that that society is for ever to be two separate communities, requiring continual skilful conflict management, rather than becoming a united—although diverse—community with common goals and shared interests. That ““two communities”” or ““both communities”” language fails to acknowledge that a significant number of people cannot be labelled as unionist or nationalist, Protestant or Catholic. Some people come from mixed marriages, are part of ethnic minorities or choose not to be described in such terms, preferring more multicultural and pluralist identification. That also ignores the reality that many Protestants and Catholics and unionists and nationalists have more in common with people across the perceived divide than they do with each other. Similarly, the insistence on a two-communities language and approach presumes that the ideal state of Northern Ireland society is of two separate but equal elements, each working to its own interests, rather than that of one united, multicultural community working towards common goals and interests. The current system discriminates against those Assembly Members who do not choose to designate as either unionist or nationalist, and the voters who put them there. Under the present system, on key cross-community votes in the Assembly, the votes of those representing cross-community parties designated as ““others”” either do not count or carry less weight. All MLAs have one vote, but some votes, it would appear, are more equal than others. Votes from the centre can countonly negatively in the system of 50:50:50—parallel consent. At first glance, it would seem that they count in the 60:40:40 method, as they are counted in the60 per cent overall, but the votes of designated unionists and designated nationalists are counted twice, as they are considered for the respective 40 per cent threshold, as well as the 60 per cent threshold overall. It is in the interest of a stable future in Northern Ireland to move away from such a divisive system. Amendment No. 9 requires the review committee to consider the issue of community designation, but does not ask the committee take any particular view. New Clause 1 is, perhaps, a more radical approach, but a better long-term solution to the problem, because it changes the definition of cross-community support to a simple two-thirds of Assembly Members present and voting. Given the strength of the unionist and nationalist designations in the previous Assembly, and in the current one, it is entirely reasonable to expect that a vote passed by two-thirds of the Members would have a cross-community element. We believe that to be a fairer way to proceed with votes on key issues than the current, rather divisive, arrangements. I beg to move.


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Proceeding contribution
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687 c401-3 
Session
2006-07
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House of Lords chamber
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Devolved matters Accountability Administration of justice Conduct Devolution Committees Finance Elections Grammar schools Donors Exemptions Irish language Northern Ireland Police Northern Ireland Assembly Political parties Ministers Northern Ireland government Northern Ireland Executive Republic of Ireland Voting rights Secondary education Timetables Sinn Féin Ulster Scots language St Andrews Agreement District policing partnerships Northern Ireland Assembly members
Legislation
Northern Ireland (St Andrews Agreement) Bill 2006-07
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